2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Come on, people. We're Democrats. [View all]byronius
(8,051 posts)I sure do love Bernie. I'm okay with Hillary. I'd be really happy with a dual ticket of these individuals in any order.
The frothy-rage thing I keep seeing -- bizarre to me. I came of age in a red state, surrounded by virtual neo-nazis; to me, Barack Obama is without a doubt the most successful progressive president in our history. The vitriol directed at him on this site mirrors the vitriol directed at Hillary, and I find it baseless and counterproductive.
Citizens United is responsible for all of this. Bernie has successfully navigated this disastrous state of affairs with a great deal of honor and intelligence. Hillary's played it differently, a little more like Obama -- but I don't for a second believe that she is some sort of craven political hack who serves the 1%. That's bullshit.
None of us can possibly know how either of these individuals would function as president. Everything changes with the office. I think the primary back-and-forth is required, part of the process -- but the hysteria, the wringing of the hands, the absolute certainty of betrayal -- it's bullshit. None of us know. It's always a crapshoot.
I wish we weren't so susceptible to placing our private angst and emotional distress into this process. Bleah.
I know an older guy, very liberal, former fighter pilot who resigned over Kent State. Good artist. Has some issues. He hates Jerry Brown like the plague over a perceived personal slight from the eighties. He knows for a fact that Jerry Brown is wholly devoted to evil; so much so that he supported the Libertarian candidate, Neel Kashkari, in the last election.
And you know what? FUCK THAT. Fucking Neel Kashkari is a fucking right wing villain, and this friend of mind is a fucking lunatic for voting for him. That's not progressive; that's mental illness and poor judgment. Jerry Brown's a fucking saint compared to Neel Kashkari.
You do the best you can with what you've got. It's messy, and it's ugly, but it's life. Fucking Donald Trump is Death. Any Republican candidate is Death. I want Bernie, but if I can't have Bernie, I'll take the next-best option, and that is not sulking in the corner while the fucking WORLD BURNS.
Sorry. A little frustrated today with the vitriolic purist thing.