2016 Postmortem

Cha

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183. Exactly. bernie's always raging on the Dems.. saying there's no difference between us and the gop

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Wed Nov 4, 2015, 12:22 AM

Nov 2015

so wtf does he know?

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Quick Question: When has a non-Democrat ever won the Democratic nomination? [View all] bravenak Nov 2015 OP

Quick yawn. cherokeeprogressive Nov 2015 #1

I use this: bravenak Nov 2015 #8

I believe it would be fair to say it would be unprecedented. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #2

I thought so. bravenak Nov 2015 #3

Was Bryan a Democrat in 1896? (nt) Recursion Nov 2015 #4

Ike was barely a Republican in 1952. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #5

Good point. Recursion Nov 2015 #7

If he would have run as D that would have been twenty eight straight years of Democratic presidents. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #12

I doubt he'd get the nomination in today's Democratic party. Rod Beauvex Nov 2015 #44

Yes, but he said he had always been a life long Republican WI_DEM Nov 2015 #172

I don't know. How many times did he run? Twice or just the once? bravenak Nov 2015 #6

1896, 1900, 1908 Recursion Nov 2015 #9

I think I need to crack open my ol history ebook again! bravenak Nov 2015 #10

aw, i really feel bad for you. jkbRN Nov 2015 #11

Okay so in 500 years. bravenak Nov 2015 #15

well, don't forget to vote in such a way that will undo corruption that you just acknowledged. jkbRN Nov 2015 #18

All politics are corrupt. Your utopia is my dystopia. bravenak Nov 2015 #19

i'm sorry you feel so powerless and that's what you base your vote on-- jkbRN Nov 2015 #21

I blame idiots. bravenak Nov 2015 #22

For sure! Hortensis Nov 2015 #79

I am beginning to suspect that getting nominated was never Sanders intention. procon Nov 2015 #13

Finally. I really don't think he thought he'd get this far and never made any plans. bravenak Nov 2015 #14

I'm sure you're right. No one anticipated Bernie's success. Hortensis Nov 2015 #92

I think he is doing great. bravenak Nov 2015 #99

Yes, badmouthing us is not a winning strategy, much as it Hortensis Nov 2015 #111

True. Winners need not badmouth. We can appreciate the positives of all candidates. bravenak Nov 2015 #113

A piece of cake is it? Oh I do hope you come to regret those words.. Kentonio Nov 2015 #189

I think this really illustrates Bernie's insular nature. LuvLoogie Nov 2015 #109

Interesting, LuvLoogie. Hortensis Nov 2015 #132

He needed to come out of his shell a long time ago. LuvLoogie Nov 2015 #171

Depressing to remember. Hortensis Nov 2015 #174

you just outlined the WHOLE problem with your jkbRN Nov 2015 #20

You must know the nominee must have enough superdelegates to win, yeah? procon Nov 2015 #24

Super delegates are a real new idea that really kicked in Bill Clintons term. LiberalArkie Nov 2015 #31

The super delegates are people who have murielm99 Nov 2015 #55

No they haven't not in my book, I don't believe that such status should be available much less TheKentuckian Nov 2015 #147

That sounds very high-minded -- but very unworkable. Our nation Hortensis Nov 2015 #173

I think you are very naive. murielm99 Nov 2015 #180

If you have to work for a campaign to find the system 'very transparent and workable' Kentonio Nov 2015 #190

It is made transparent and workable for the voters. murielm99 Nov 2015 #192

My lack of knowledge and experience? Kentonio Nov 2015 #193

Your posts illuminate who you are. n/t murielm99 Nov 2015 #194

As do yours. Kentonio Nov 2015 #195

my my DianeK Nov 2015 #200

I'm thinking college and book tour. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #23

A lucrative speaking tour? nt procon Nov 2015 #25

Same here. Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #128

The Democratic party establishment has evolved into Republican lite AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #16

We will not let outsiders run our party. bravenak Nov 2015 #17

The 'outsider' is more of a democrat than the Democrats AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #53

He is no Democrat. bravenak Nov 2015 #56

His beliefs are traditional Democratic AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #59

I am the Future of the Democratic party. Not him. He is no Democrat. bravenak Nov 2015 #68

Bernie is a small 'd' Democrat AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #70

I am sorry for your loss. bravenak Nov 2015 #76

I think the party has lost it's marbles AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #117

And the far left have become well, not my cup of coffee. bravenak Nov 2015 #118

There is no far left in American politics AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #120

Then the 'revolution'. bravenak Nov 2015 #121

I am talking about our Democratic candidate Bernie Sanders AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #124

He is no Democrat bravenak Nov 2015 #125

(d) Vermont AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #134

No bravenak Nov 2015 #137

The far lefties are horrible people who think that the New Deal waas a good idea eridani Nov 2015 #184

The New Deal left my grandmother out. She was a domestic worker. bravenak Nov 2015 #205

But it formed the basis for later including domestic workers. eridani Nov 2015 #212

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #211

+1 Go Vols Nov 2015 #178

HAHA.. you're making them crazy A-gain! They're acting like President Obama isn't a "Dem".. Cha Nov 2015 #26

They are so funny. bravenak Nov 2015 #27

Funny Strawpeople. Cha Nov 2015 #38

Unicorn wranglers. bravenak Nov 2015 #40

Yeah, who would want to "attack" a unicorn? Cha Nov 2015 #47

Quick Answer - What Difference Would It Make If Such An Event Came To Pass cantbeserious Nov 2015 #28

Won't happen. bravenak Nov 2015 #29

So Say You - Others See The World Much Differently cantbeserious Nov 2015 #35

Others in bubbles. bravenak Nov 2015 #37

The Same Could Be Said For One cantbeserious Nov 2015 #43

I am speaking to the one bravenak Nov 2015 #46

You Speak To Yourself - Now It All Makes Sense cantbeserious Nov 2015 #48

Can you not tell when you get spoken to? I can help. It's easy. bravenak Nov 2015 #50

We See One Speaking To Oneself Yet Again cantbeserious Nov 2015 #75

Your screen name is apt bravenak Nov 2015 #77

Ad Hominen Attacks Are Against DU Rules cantbeserious Nov 2015 #81

How is that Ad Homi(nen)? bravenak Nov 2015 #84

One Denigrated My Username - No One Denigrated Your Username cantbeserious Nov 2015 #86

I like your user name. It fits you as well as mine fits me. That's why you chose it, no? bravenak Nov 2015 #87

Irony - Seems Lost On Many These Days - I Assure That One Is Quite Serious In All That One Does cantbeserious Nov 2015 #89

As one should be. bravenak Nov 2015 #90

Truly cantbeserious Nov 2015 #93

They already did� donf Nov 2015 #135

. bravenak Nov 2015 #136

So boring that a bunch of conservatives embraced a D next to their name and kept all of their TheKentuckian Nov 2015 #162

Yes. Boring. bravenak Nov 2015 #166

K & R Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #30

I think a book tour would be a financially sound idea. bravenak Nov 2015 #33

Do you think sales will be high? Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #34

I think the speaking tour will pay better myself. bravenak Nov 2015 #36

Yes if you are in demand. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #61

Yeah. I won't YELL at you and point like i'm petting two differently sized horses the entire time. bravenak Nov 2015 #66

Hahahaha, fuckin priceless. giftedgirl77 Nov 2015 #152

I wish I could fall asleep. bravenak Nov 2015 #154

Aww, I'm sorry. I hate those fuckers. giftedgirl77 Nov 2015 #157

It does make me feel better. bravenak Nov 2015 #159

Exactly, try some green tea or chocolate. giftedgirl77 Nov 2015 #161

It's only 1 hour and 20 minutes of class. bravenak Nov 2015 #163

So much denial & seething hatred is more like it. giftedgirl77 Nov 2015 #170

Watch his hands while he talks. You cannot unsee. bravenak Nov 2015 #155

Strawman. Sanders is running as a Dem riderinthestorm Nov 2015 #32

I think it was the same year a woman won the Democratic nomination. Jim Lane Nov 2015 #39

I think Democrats will go democratic for the most part. bravenak Nov 2015 #41

Doh! Phlem Nov 2015 #52

As a Clinton supporter, I think this is a meaningless issue to tag Sanders with... brooklynite Nov 2015 #42

I don't. I do not see him helping downticket. We need those seats. bravenak Nov 2015 #45

the DNC isn't helping down ticket Lordquinton Nov 2015 #58

Well, I suppose we'd better vote Hillary so that the DNC does not have to support a non Democrat. bravenak Nov 2015 #63

surely he will campaign for dems running for dog catcher, city council, county supervisor, msongs Nov 2015 #60

Does he campaign for many Dems? bravenak Nov 2015 #62

If he draws more actual voters Lazy Daisy Nov 2015 #97

I wouldn't worry about him drawing more actual voters. bravenak Nov 2015 #101

Actually, I think Bernie's doing a lot of good for the Hortensis Nov 2015 #105

Bernie is pessimistic. bravenak Nov 2015 #107

Yes, you're right. I seldom listen to his words, so I tend to Hortensis Nov 2015 #127

I see him giving voices that felt marginalized a chance to speak out bravenak Nov 2015 #130

Yes to that. Just hope those he's inspired continue to Hortensis Nov 2015 #133

Clinton has absolutely zero appeal to the alienated voters who sat out 2014 eridani Nov 2015 #185

Bernie has small appeal to the black community. Who vote. bravenak Nov 2015 #204

I guess that means that the black community is in love with mass incarceration and welfare deform eridani Nov 2015 #210

now see, stop making sense, you are going to alienate yourself from the pack. Warren Stupidity Nov 2015 #181

when the only other alternative is someone who's not a Democrat in any substantive sense MisterP Nov 2015 #49

She and Martin are the only Democrats in the race. bravenak Nov 2015 #51

^^^THIS^^^ SunSeeker Nov 2015 #122

Exactly. bernie's always raging on the Dems.. saying there's no difference between us and the gop Cha Nov 2015 #183

That's only when he's not supporting more of the Democratic Party platform than Clinton n/g eridani Nov 2015 #186

Nah.. he's always raging on the Dems. Hillary's a much better choice for President. Cha Nov 2015 #187

Only if you like war and propping up banksters n/t eridani Nov 2015 #208

Hillary's a better choice for America.. I don't care what bernie supporters have to say. Cha Nov 2015 #209

Endless war is not a better choice for America. eridani Nov 2015 #213

that's your bogus spiel. Cha Nov 2015 #214

Iraq war vote? Libya total chaos? Those things didn't happen? n/t eridani Nov 2015 #215

so? That doesn't mean there's going to be "endless war".. that's what the BS supporters say. Cha Nov 2015 #216

Yes, it does. This is someone who says that Iranians are her enemy eridani Nov 2015 #217

No it doesn't. Cha Nov 2015 #218

Explain what she is going to do about the military-industrial complex, then n/t eridani Nov 2015 #219

Hillary's Presidency does not mean "endless wars". Cha Nov 2015 #220

She has never met a war she didn't like. Why will she stop as president? eridani Nov 2015 #221

You're thinking of john mccain. Cha Nov 2015 #222

Yes--the guy that she said passed the 3am red phone call test, unlike Obama eridani Nov 2015 #223

That was then this is now.. ya'll really need to keep up Cha Nov 2015 #224

Sorry, the weathervane is spinning too fast for me to follow eridani Nov 2015 #225

Obviously hard to keep up to the reality of now. Cha Nov 2015 #226

I don't have to accept your fucking reality of the permanent decline of the 99% eridani Nov 2015 #227

HAHA.. you don't have to accept reality. Cha Nov 2015 #228

I'm working to change it. You apparently like income inequality and war eridani Nov 2015 #229

There's my point right there. BS supporters are not into reality. Cha Nov 2015 #230

Nobody who isnsists that how things are now is the way they have to be ever did-- eridani Nov 2015 #231

Yes proved my point. Cha Nov 2015 #232

Which was? n/t eridani Nov 2015 #233

LOL Cha Nov 2015 #234

Stop pretending you speak for the Democratic party Kentonio Nov 2015 #191

I am very important. bravenak Nov 2015 #196

I'm sure you are Kentonio Nov 2015 #199

Never. lovemydog Nov 2015 #54

Thank you!! bravenak Nov 2015 #57

Honestly. lovemydog Nov 2015 #71

I don't give a crap. Bonobo Nov 2015 #64

I know you don't. bravenak Nov 2015 #69

God. Bonobo Nov 2015 #72

Please do. bravenak Nov 2015 #74

Why should it matter, if getting the best possible President is the goal? [n/t] Maedhros Nov 2015 #65

I want downticket seat too. bravenak Nov 2015 #78

When the party is loyal to us, I'll be loyal to the party.... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2015 #67

Bill Clint...no, he said he was a Democrat. Oh, wait. That must have been rhetorical. jtuck004 Nov 2015 #73

Which Candidate Has Positions That Will Help The Most Americans Yallow Nov 2015 #80

Positions? I have dreams too. bravenak Nov 2015 #82

I Can Tell By The Tens Of Thousands At Hillary's Rallys Yallow Nov 2015 #95

I am barely fighting yet. But yes, we will fight together one day. bravenak Nov 2015 #102

That is a lame argument. Warren Stupidity Nov 2015 #182

I give what is needed. No more is needed to win. bravenak Nov 2015 #203

And you stay up all night... MattSh Nov 2015 #83

Not really. bravenak Nov 2015 #85

Non-Dem? Do you mean Hillary? JDPriestly Nov 2015 #88

Bernie. The Independent. Hillary is a registered Democrat. bravenak Nov 2015 #91

They are both Democrats now. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #98

On what date did Bernie register? I must have missed it. bravenak Nov 2015 #100

Voters do not have to "register" for a party in Vermont. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #108

Ok. On what date did he declare that he is a Democrat? bravenak Nov 2015 #110

I believe he announced that he is running as a Democrat. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #115

I have a problem with his lack of affiliation. bravenak Nov 2015 #116

Quick Question: When has a non-Democrat ever won the Democratic nomination? waldo.c Nov 2015 #94

Are you psychic! Me too! Except you are wrong.. Are you sure you cleaned your crystal ball? bravenak Nov 2015 #112

Define "Democrat" drm604 Nov 2015 #96

I mean a member of the party who want to change from inside through cooperation. bravenak Nov 2015 #106

Yay! Bravenak has officially conceded that Bernie is a Democrat! Vattel Nov 2015 #146

Read my sigline. bravenak Nov 2015 #148

I know, but you redefining "Democrat." Vattel Nov 2015 #150

He does not like the Democratic party. He is no Democrat. bravenak Nov 2015 #151

Yes, you think he is a Democrat, but not a "Democrat." I get it. Vattel Nov 2015 #179

well there's a first time for everything azurnoir Nov 2015 #103

True. We will see. bravenak Nov 2015 #104

This is a pretty lame attack jfern Nov 2015 #114

Sure bravenak Nov 2015 #119

He's been a member of the Democratic caucus for almost 25 years jfern Nov 2015 #123

He is no Democrat bravenak Nov 2015 #126

Whoever gets the nomination, Bernie included, will be the Democrat jfern Nov 2015 #129

Good think he's losing then bravenak Nov 2015 #131

Sanders is your candidate, bravenak Martin Eden Nov 2015 #138

But you are condescending! bravenak Nov 2015 #141

And, hopefully, correct about your conversion! Martin Eden Nov 2015 #144

Already was for bernie. Dropped him after netroots. No leadership. bravenak Nov 2015 #145

I know that I, and my family, and my friends, are all really looking forward to voting for Bernie. djean111 Nov 2015 #139

I'm a Democrat, not a DOMAcrat. Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #140

I do not deal with the type of treatment doled out to me. bravenak Nov 2015 #153

Were you telling the truth when you said you supported Sanders? DisgustipatedinCA Nov 2015 #142

Of course. Until I realized he had no control over his campaign. bravenak Nov 2015 #143

No, you don't owe him anything. But people would do well to think twice before heeding your words. DisgustipatedinCA Nov 2015 #168

Thank you for implying instability in me. bravenak Nov 2015 #169

I have a different question and answer. LWolf Nov 2015 #149

Bill Clinton UglyGreed Nov 2015 #156

So what? I do not feel moved by spam videos. bravenak Nov 2015 #158

again Obama UglyGreed Nov 2015 #164

. bravenak Nov 2015 #165

The members of the Democratic party are able to determine who is a Democrat Gothmog Nov 2015 #160

Very true. And We will. bravenak Nov 2015 #167

Hillary will be the first!!!!! NCTraveler Nov 2015 #175

This place is funny. bravenak Nov 2015 #198

Horace Greeley, 1872. n/t earthside Nov 2015 #176

Who will the Socialists in the Democratic Party vote for? Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2015 #177

Quick Question: When has a non-Male ever won the Democratic nomination? ljm2002 Nov 2015 #188

Who is this popular male she has to beat? bravenak Nov 2015 #197

Non sequiturs much? ljm2002 Nov 2015 #206

You brought popular males up, not I. bravenak Nov 2015 #207

I don't know about the past, but if Hillary wins the nomination Android3.14 Nov 2015 #201

Allright! 2016! bravenak Nov 2015 #202