2016 Postmortem

randys1

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70. I know, 7-0 to allow a CLEAR violation of the TOS

Wed Nov 4, 2015, 03:45 PM

Nov 2015

Winning elections is important — therefore, advocating in favor of Republican nominees or in favor of third-party spoiler candidates that could split the vote and throw an election to our conservative opponents is NEVER permitted on Democratic Underground.

Winning elections is important — therefore, advocating in favor of Republican nominees or in favor of third-party spoiler candidates that could split the vote and throw an election to our conservative opponents is NEVER permitted on Democratic Underground.

Winning elections is important — therefore, advocating in favor of Republican nominees or in favor of third-party spoiler candidates that could split the vote and throw an election to our conservative opponents is NEVER permitted on Democratic Underground.

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Question about the TOS "Terms of Service" [View all] randys1 Nov 2015 OP

I think after the primary is over these kind of statement will apply leftofcool Nov 2015 #1

It says never, though randys1 Nov 2015 #2

Bernie is not a Third Party or Republican candidate. If people do not want to support Hillary if she sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #6

Saying you will NOT vote for Hillary is the same as what is in the TOS , but worse is saying randys1 Nov 2015 #7

wow...no Free Speech allowed. SoapBox Nov 2015 #173

Terrifying! A privately-owned pro-Democratic doesn't let people advocate against DanTex Nov 2015 #182

Conservative Democrats yes, progressive Democrats no. nm rhett o rick Nov 2015 #211

Wrong Rick. zappaman Nov 2015 #214

Here is one for you. PowerToThePeople Nov 2015 #249

Hope you didn't hurt yourself with all that twisting. zappaman Nov 2015 #254

The only twisting PowerToThePeople Nov 2015 #255

+a bazillion marym625 Nov 2015 #307

That's right.. Skinner, EarlG, and Elad actually own this board and maintain it.. they can do Cha Nov 2015 #271

No it's not a violation of free speech mythology Nov 2015 #261

I hope you're kidding. Adrahil Nov 2015 #279

Oh, GROW UP. John Poet Nov 2015 #282

First, I have no idea what your OP means. I have not seen any posts advocating merrily Nov 2015 #9

There were two post recently that IMO violated, or got dangerously close violating the TOC brush Nov 2015 #80

Those two are very easy alerts and quick MIRT clean ups. I think the OP is referring to people merrily Nov 2015 #87

Not worth pursuing this whatchamacallit Nov 2015 #89

OOOOOPS! It's a bust! Cha Nov 2015 #266

I think there's a distinction between SAYING you won't vote D and ADVOCATING for not voting D brooklynite Nov 2015 #3

So i can say "I will knowingly NOT vote even though that means a vote FOR the GOP" randys1 Nov 2015 #5

As I understand things, yes brooklynite Nov 2015 #14

That's the same thing brush Nov 2015 #81

No, the Bernie or Bust movement overtly encourages others to join. brooklynite Nov 2015 #105

geesh questionseverything Nov 2015 #305

Why don't you take it up with the person posting such things corkhead Nov 2015 #4

This question would be better if asked in DU's MineralMan Nov 2015 #8

Agreed, I will do that now, thanks. randys1 Nov 2015 #11

yeah, then wait weeks, months or never... luvspeas Nov 2015 #53

Look, 20 min later and there's the reply! uppityperson Nov 2015 #161

September 19th soon enough for you? luvspeas Nov 2015 #170

That is the prerogative of the owner of the board. He forces no one to post here. merrily Nov 2015 #198

I needed a good laugh today... luvspeas Nov 2015 #174

Isn't the OP complaining about DU? Not banning those that in his opinion violate the TOS. nm rhett o rick Nov 2015 #217

I don't know, but you can alert the hosts. MineralMan Nov 2015 #227

Let them write in whomever they wish, its their right GusBob Nov 2015 #10

According to Skinner, it's about the nominee, not just about any Democrat. merrily Nov 2015 #256

You will vote for Bernie then? RobertEarl Nov 2015 #12

I was a Bernie supporter before many of you know who he was. randys1 Nov 2015 #13

Heh RobertEarl Nov 2015 #16

write what out? randys1 Nov 2015 #17

LOL! Claiming a post of mine is untrue when it's true is a sure way to get a reply from me. merrily Nov 2015 #202

Most DUers have known of Senator Sanders, founder of the Progressive Caucus, for a very long time. merrily Nov 2015 #31

I cant respond to what you wrote, I will be silenced if I do. randys1 Nov 2015 #34

I'm saying I haven't noticed any evidence whatever of your alleged support of Sanders, but merrily Nov 2015 #36

You betcha randys1 Nov 2015 #43

Um, nice try. Read Reply 36 again. merrily Nov 2015 #46

I have stated hundreds of times I am a Bernie supporter, I have stated dozens of times randys1 Nov 2015 #47

Actually, I don't know it's true or I would not have posted that I didn't. merrily Nov 2015 #50

AND there was alert stalking of HRC supporters before they moved to there own website. misterhighwasted Nov 2015 #108

I sure would. That won't happen, but I would. nt Adrahil Nov 2015 #280

I have not seen anyone advocating for Republicans or third parties. People have expressed who they GoneFishin Nov 2015 #15

No, just reading the rules. Anyone who says they wont support the party in the GE is violating randys1 Nov 2015 #18

Read what you posted again. It says nothing about staying home. merrily Nov 2015 #33

it says in the Mission statement to promote the election of MORE Democrats VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #78

The Whole Thang fredamae Nov 2015 #19

Thanks for posting the word NEVER yet again! randys1 Nov 2015 #21

Depressing turnout is against TOS. "If you are bashing, trashing, undermining, or depressing ..." GoneFishin Nov 2015 #25

I do NOTHING but support BOTH candidates here ALL DAY LONG randys1 Nov 2015 #27

Really? Please see Reply 36. merrily Nov 2015 #38

I'll try again. Bernie is NOT a Third Party or Republican Candidate. He is a Democratic Party sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #39

All this will be over sooner than we imagine � and sooner than they expect. NurseJackie Nov 2015 #20

I very much want Bernie to be president, but the odds are he wont be. randys1 Nov 2015 #22

You're a good guy, and I enjoy reading your posts. NurseJackie Nov 2015 #24

Thanks randys1 Nov 2015 #28

It is far from over. We have a lot of work to do and lots of time to get it done. sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #40

I was going to hold my nose and vote Hillary, Cosmic Kitten Nov 2015 #23

That's hard to imagine. NurseJackie Nov 2015 #26

What? being force fed Hillary... Cosmic Kitten Nov 2015 #29

I'm just surprised. That's all. Nothing more. NurseJackie Nov 2015 #30

The vehement anti-Bernie sentiment is a total turn off Cosmic Kitten Nov 2015 #32

I'm not expecting any support at all. Do as you will. Whatever makes you happy. NurseJackie Nov 2015 #37

It's the ISSUES. Cosmic Kitten Nov 2015 #42

Well, here's what you do: Vote for Bernie in the primary. Don't vote for Hillary in the general. NurseJackie Nov 2015 #44

Wait what? Cosmic Kitten Nov 2015 #45

Unfortunately, this is beyond my scope of my ability (or desire) to assist. NurseJackie Nov 2015 #66

Cave? Control-Z Nov 2015 #67

Who are you to ask a question like that? senz Nov 2015 #158

senz, baby, on the internet, we're all 22 year old geniuses who just happen to be merrily Nov 2015 #253

No clue what knowing of the existence of a message board with cave in its name has to do with age. merrily Nov 2015 #252

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service jeff47 Nov 2015 #106

Someone alerted on that? Really? (It seems like a pretty tame post.) NurseJackie Nov 2015 #120

Alert stalking isn't just for one "side". jeff47 Nov 2015 #122

Interesting to know. NurseJackie Nov 2015 #125

They're only "punished" if the jury votes 0-7. jeff47 Nov 2015 #131

Got it! NurseJackie Nov 2015 #179

The target of the alert only sees results if the post is hidden jeff47 Nov 2015 #230

Thanks jeff47 :-) NurseJackie Nov 2015 #234

Jury Results Are In... WillyT Nov 2015 #110

How do you feel about Sander's lost years? Control-Z Nov 2015 #63

LOL! merrily Nov 2015 #204

No body is force feeding you Hillary upaloopa Nov 2015 #186

What's hard to imagine? merrily Nov 2015 #35

Someone willing to support whoever gets the D nomination, apparently. Lancero Nov 2015 #59

I don't think that is what Nurse Jackie meant. merrily Nov 2015 #76

"Her supporters" lol. Agschmid Nov 2015 #264

And many would say the same about Bernie supporters. Adrahil Nov 2015 #281

Here is the text of the TOS to which you refer Samantha Nov 2015 #41

Nice post UglyGreed Nov 2015 #97

+ 10000 -- not half bad. senz Nov 2015 #171

Thanks for the post. BigDemVoter Nov 2015 #237

Bernie or bust!! PowerToThePeople Nov 2015 #48

Exactly. This comment means you will write in a 3rd party candidate in the GE and if the TOS randys1 Nov 2015 #49

F your loalty oath PowerToThePeople Nov 2015 #51

YOu won! BERNIE or BUST is a CLEAR violation of the TOS and yet you won 7-0 randys1 Nov 2015 #58

.. PowerToThePeople Nov 2015 #65

HUge badge of honor for you, when you think about it, i would brag, not laugh randys1 Nov 2015 #68

Newsflash PowerToThePeople Nov 2015 #69

I know, 7-0 to allow a CLEAR violation of the TOS randys1 Nov 2015 #70

Keep beating that dead horse PowerToThePeople Nov 2015 #72

Problem is the jury system treestar Nov 2015 #107

yep randys1 Nov 2015 #109

I am though, remind me what am I deciding again? snooper2 Nov 2015 #152

L0onix got PPR'd. Another Sanders supporter bites the dust. By the way rhett o rick Nov 2015 #185

Actually, that's exactly what it means. NuclearDem Nov 2015 #199

Sounds like you're unclear on the phrase. zappaman Nov 2015 #206

So you are saying that I am not free to say the expression "Bernie or Bust", because someone rhett o rick Nov 2015 #215

No Rick. I can understand why you would want to redefine it to mean something else. zappaman Nov 2015 #216

And I understand why you want to ban all those that don't agree with you. rhett o rick Nov 2015 #219

Now you're just making things up. zappaman Nov 2015 #220

Hey since you side with big money... Agschmid Nov 2015 #265

Get it now because if Clinton wins... zappaman Nov 2015 #267

Then what does Bernie or BUST mean? randys1 Nov 2015 #232

It can mean a lot of different things other than the specific definition you guys give it so you rhett o rick Nov 2015 #240

I FULLY support "purging" DU of people who advocate against voting for Democrats. NYC Liberal Nov 2015 #94

I guess it is a good thing PowerToThePeople Nov 2015 #98

The irony of you complaining about loyalty oaths in your previous post is rich, NYC Liberal Nov 2015 #103

I do not do loyalty oaths PowerToThePeople Nov 2015 #113

Jury results. Aerows Nov 2015 #55

I was on that jury mvd Nov 2015 #82

Already did. n/t Aerows Nov 2015 #83

Do you mean this? mvd Nov 2015 #86

The admins do not care about the terms of service-case in point... luvspeas Nov 2015 #52

Yes, he did do it for those reasons. We cant discuss it here though randys1 Nov 2015 #54

I'm so sorry that happened to you... luvspeas Nov 2015 #57

yep, openly racist garbage is OK here, pointing it out will get you silenced. randys1 Nov 2015 #60

well, yes. I've been called a bitch from both sides... luvspeas Nov 2015 #61

both sides? I am sorry to hear, if you can link me, please do, I will show my randys1 Nov 2015 #62

I meant in life, not here... luvspeas Nov 2015 #64

Poster, please. You got hides for strongly implying that all supporters of Sanders were racist and merrily Nov 2015 #74

ALL , show me where I ever got even CLOSE to that, please randys1 Nov 2015 #100

I will get the links. Also the link where you missed Manny's sarcasm and thanked him in caps merrily Nov 2015 #102

And in ALL 3 i did not ONCE say all, i said the EXACT same thing in all 3 randys1 Nov 2015 #104

In all 3, you strongly implied Bernie supporters were racist and sexist. merrily Nov 2015 #175

What do you know? Because that is simply not true... luvspeas Nov 2015 #144

luvpeas is defending his or her posts against my post to randys1 about randys1's posts? How odd! merrily Nov 2015 #191

your keyboard keys must make a nice little tapping noise when you hit them... luvspeas Nov 2015 #210

LOL! Claiming my post is untrue when it's true is an almost sure way to get a reply from me. merrily Nov 2015 #212

I'm sorry about those hides, randy.. Cha Nov 2015 #268

This Sanders voter agrees with you. blm Nov 2015 #56

I agree. We should stick to the rules. bravenak Nov 2015 #71

No ambiguity. The rules seem to be very clear and explicit to me � NurseJackie Nov 2015 #73

Or this whatchamacallit Nov 2015 #84

I think the owners know that primaries bring out the worst and the best in people. Myself included. bravenak Nov 2015 #88

correction grasswire Nov 2015 #238

No. Sorry. bravenak Nov 2015 #239

Differences of opinion are what make horse races. Mark Twain Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2015 #75

Unless we are talking newbies that MIRT can dispatch, a lot of it is up to community standards, merrily Nov 2015 #114

I would think that echo chambers that specialize in "Me too!" would lose their appeal. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2015 #128

Yes, liberals are wandering away, which means the minority is, way beyond its numbers, merrily Nov 2015 #141

Too bad there is not a Liberal Underground-type site. kath Nov 2015 #235

I understand that sites to support Sanders exist and/or are in the works. merrily Nov 2015 #236

yes, that is an interesting conundrum for owner. grasswire Nov 2015 #241

The owner has at least two other sites, but you might ask him in ATA. merrily Nov 2015 #243

I admit I did have a thread stating UglyGreed Nov 2015 #77

I voted for her in 2012 and survived!! Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2015 #91

I was going to vote for her in 2012 UglyGreed Nov 2015 #93

yeah, but you probably didn't mean it...n/t luvspeas Nov 2015 #209

Writing in Bernie would still be voting for a Democrat. I am not going to debate merrily Nov 2015 #96

I understand your point UglyGreed Nov 2015 #167

We should all be able to do that without being put on the spot. Again, I bet several people are merrily Nov 2015 #189

My edit to my earlier post redacts the write in option. It's the nominee, not any Democrat. merrily Nov 2015 #207

Unless that Democrat is a Self Described Socialist VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #180

Irrelevant. The rule would be the same about writing in O'Malley, a lifelong Democrat. Jim Lane Nov 2015 #200

Irrellevant??? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #203

Has Bernie disavowed it yet? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #205

Who cares? My point is that the ToS doesn't apply the distinction you bring up thrice daily. Jim Lane Nov 2015 #213

I havent labeled him... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #221

My position TeddyR Nov 2015 #79

Isn't she currently seeking the Green Presidential nomination? merrily Nov 2015 #99

I believe she was their candidate TeddyR Nov 2015 #115

Stein was last time. Cynthia was the time before. Am I confusing the surname? Is it McKinnon? merrily Nov 2015 #119

This is for you, randys1 senz Nov 2015 #85

Fortunately, someone was just banned for that very reason BainsBane Nov 2015 #90

Oh well. zappaman Nov 2015 #92

He got busted. Cha Nov 2015 #269

Wow. NurseJackie Nov 2015 #95

FAN TASTIC randys1 Nov 2015 #101

33 thousand posts UglyGreed Nov 2015 #111

Seriously. bunnies Nov 2015 #143

I added the sarcasm tag UglyGreed Nov 2015 #146

I do. :) bunnies Nov 2015 #151

BTW isn't this post UglyGreed Nov 2015 #150

heh. Yes actually. bunnies Nov 2015 #155

no because they don't really mean it...n/t luvspeas Nov 2015 #208

Guess not N/T UglyGreed Nov 2015 #223

Good! MoonRiver Nov 2015 #116

Whoever alerted and got him banned: for shame. senz Nov 2015 #117

Jury results marym625 Nov 2015 #135

Thank you, marym! senz Nov 2015 #163

I'm pretty flabbergasted by all of it. marym625 Nov 2015 #188

I wonder: if L0onix had posted a link instead of a quote, would a ban have occurred. merrily Nov 2015 #246

seems that quoting has become a bad thing marym625 Nov 2015 #247

Especially quoting Sanders BainsBane Nov 2015 #248

Huh? merrily Nov 2015 #258

Tyranny of the majority Capt. Obvious Nov 2015 #297

I dunno. What has happened to DU is a shame. nt merrily Nov 2015 #251

yep. sadly. marym625 Nov 2015 #263

EarlG banned him BainsBane Nov 2015 #138

Post removed Post removed Nov 2015 #195

WTF are you even talking about? BainsBane Nov 2015 #244

That was interesting. bravenak Nov 2015 #250

You were banned for creating a sock and posting with both usernames at the same time. polly7 Nov 2015 #201

Oh my. senz Nov 2015 #229

Reason why y'all are on your own in this freaking cesspool of a forum... ScreamingMeemie Nov 2015 #259

LOL! That alert is hilarious. polly7 Nov 2015 #276

Your obsession with this is not in line R B Garr Nov 2015 #277

No obsession whatsoever. polly7 Nov 2015 #278

Your obsessions with posters are very obvious R B Garr Nov 2015 #283

I just answered you. Look up. nt. polly7 Nov 2015 #284

I'll be looking for your post to Admin then R B Garr Nov 2015 #286

LMFAO. nt. polly7 Nov 2015 #287

Yeah, LOL indeed. At least you're admitting you R B Garr Nov 2015 #293

You brought your mirror right? JTFrog Nov 2015 #289

Replied above. nt. polly7 Nov 2015 #290

Yea, and I fixed it for you. JTFrog Nov 2015 #291

You fixed something for 'you' in your head, if that makes you feel good - awesome. nt. polly7 Nov 2015 #292

I'm sorry I can't fix what's in your head. JTFrog Nov 2015 #294

Gonna have a GREAT day, thanks. You too, eh?! nt. polly7 Nov 2015 #295

I think I am. JTFrog Nov 2015 #296

I was on the jury Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #157

Gosh, and here I always thought you were such a senz Nov 2015 #165

The post appeared to be a pretty blatant violation of TOS Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #168

Not really.. you just helped get a Hide. He would have been banned anyway. Cha Nov 2015 #270

Are you really saying "shame" to EarlG, the Admin who did the ban? uppityperson Nov 2015 #166

EarlG banned him. & he banned Sgt benobo and SKP before that for using the c word. Cha Nov 2015 #272

Well there ya go... Bobbie Jo Nov 2015 #118

And L0oniX did not even advocate it, it was just a copy from an article. There were posters below LiberalArkie Nov 2015 #121

I didn't read the thread in question BainsBane Nov 2015 #124

I wish I had all the links to HRC supporters who said they would write in her name on the ballot. LiberalArkie Nov 2015 #126

In this election? BainsBane Nov 2015 #129

Yea and in 2008 also.. In this election they suffixed with "Of course Hillary won't loose" Or LiberalArkie Nov 2015 #137

Then the answer is no BainsBane Nov 2015 #140

There have been posts to the effect that people will not vote for Bernie or or a "socialist" merrily Nov 2015 #257

They don't say it here on DU Capt. Obvious Nov 2015 #298

And as always, her opponents were too decent to punish. senz Nov 2015 #153

When I was a kid we heard stories about the Soviet Union senz Nov 2015 #139

Time to sharpen the blades? daleanime Nov 2015 #112

I thought she had already won the nomination. She already has all the super delegates doesn't she? LiberalArkie Nov 2015 #123

She had an overwhelming number of them in 2008, too. Then, they switched. merrily Nov 2015 #197

yes, I would imagine that site owners will lose a lot of revenue. grasswire Nov 2015 #245

Sugesting people don't vote? IS that a TOS violation? Cosmic Kitten Nov 2015 #127

I did that where? randys1 Nov 2015 #130

I can point to several Hillary supporters who have Cosmic Kitten Nov 2015 #132

Where are Hillary supporters saying that? randys1 Nov 2015 #133

Look around Cosmic Kitten Nov 2015 #134

But I dont see any Hillary people telling people not to vote. randys1 Nov 2015 #136

look upthread. nt bunnies Nov 2015 #147

You will have to link me where Hillary voters are telling people not to vote for the Democrat randys1 Nov 2015 #148

Theyre saying not to vote for Hillary. bunnies Nov 2015 #154

Hillary voters are saying not to vote for Hillary? randys1 Nov 2015 #156

#44 is one. And yes its probably out of frustration. bunnies Nov 2015 #159

<3 NurseJackie Nov 2015 #181

Precisely! It appears that Cosmic Kitten may be referring to an earlier post of mine � NurseJackie Nov 2015 #162

The simple fact is the both sides argument doesnt work here anymore than it does randys1 Nov 2015 #164

I'm still of the opinion that these folks will do exactly as they please. No amount of "begging" � NurseJackie Nov 2015 #172

Worse...I see her supporters saying that we can only vote for her...we cannot vote how we want. SoapBox Nov 2015 #176

Feel free to point those out. William769 Nov 2015 #224

yeah Cha Nov 2015 #273

depends on your perspective i suppose elana i am Nov 2015 #142

Worse? President Carson appointing a Roe ending SC justice is the same as Hillary???????? randys1 Nov 2015 #145

kicking the can down the road elana i am Nov 2015 #187

DU is very liberal Prism Nov 2015 #149

Hmmmm Dem2 Nov 2015 #160

We saw the screenshots. senz Nov 2015 #196

Skinner answered, here's the link to the ATA thread uppityperson Nov 2015 #169

A very good answer, I might add... SidDithers Nov 2015 #178

He's Right. Of course, Skinner is a smart guy. Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #222

+1 merrily Nov 2015 #262

Here is a copy of Skinner's answer bravenak Nov 2015 #177

Thanks for clarifying bravenak. misterhighwasted Nov 2015 #183

Hve I ever called you brilliant? You are BRILLIANT! I shall post it. bravenak Nov 2015 #184

I would be grateful just knowing that I am posting with respect to Democratic Underground. misterhighwasted Nov 2015 #193

Respect is a big thing to me. I find myself apologizing at times, but it helps build character. bravenak Nov 2015 #194

Ahh yes-the rules...but do they really mean it? luvspeas Nov 2015 #218

I never know what the real rules are. bravenak Nov 2015 #306

Uh huh... randys1 Nov 2015 #190

You were right bravenak Nov 2015 #192

point out where a no-vote intention is a violation stupidicus Nov 2015 #225

TOS says this is a place for people who work to elect more Democrats, it says that randys1 Nov 2015 #226

in other words, you can't stupidicus Nov 2015 #228

No words in mouth, THIS is what Skinner said randys1 Nov 2015 #231

that's meaningless for our purposes stupidicus Nov 2015 #233

"whatever trips your triggers" Cha Nov 2015 #274

This message was self-deleted by its author fishwax Nov 2015 #242

This must pose a serious problem for DU since Hillary sounds like a Ragan Era Republican and how can Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #260

Democratic Underground's owners and Admins are Hillary supporters.. why don't you ask them Cha Nov 2015 #275

This is an "inconvenient truth" to some here. MoonRiver Nov 2015 #285

Fuck your TOS. John Poet Nov 2015 #288

You and others have shown severe, almost violent reactions to being told about randys1 Nov 2015 #299

Post removed Post removed Nov 2015 #300

More violent responses randys1 Nov 2015 #301

"Violent"? Didn't your mother ever teach you the one John Poet Nov 2015 #303

alert results irisblue Nov 2015 #304

One yes. Two, maybe. HassleCat Nov 2015 #302

There is so much awesome in this thread. I love it Number23 Nov 2015 #308

Kinda worked out that way, didnt it randys1 Nov 2015 #309