2016 Postmortem

Armstead

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23. Not stupid (well, not all) but not being shown any viable alternative

Wed Nov 4, 2015, 04:09 PM

Nov 2015

Whatever its intentions, Obamacare is so convoluted and ineffectual that it is not surprising that the working people in Kentucky rejected it in the form of the election.

They're still paying ever-rising medical bills -- and its so complicated that many fall through the cracks of being offered any real relief. And the insurers are forming new monopolies to further skin the public.

No wonder the GOP is able to twist it around and convince people that Obamacare is just Socialist Hell.

It's a classic case of the Democrats trying to promote "reforms" while placating Big Money and Big Power

Had the Democrats showed some spine (and perhaps some tactical intelligence) by direct and focused reforms like the guaranteed coverage and some form of public option, and relentlessly pushed to inform the public about it with a clear message on intent, I suspect by now, Obamacare would be a whole lot more popular.

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My take on last night's election results from Kentucky [View all] Bernblu Nov 2015 OP

The GOP depends Turbineguy Nov 2015 #1

in 1980 the voters said the country was too far to the left by voting in regan saturnsring Nov 2015 #2

Yes. Like last midterm when Skidmore Nov 2015 #7

now there set there til 2020 saturnsring Nov 2015 #8

Or people can start paying attention and Skidmore Nov 2015 #9

You can insist until you are blue in the face upaloopa Nov 2015 #29

Says someone who will floriduck Nov 2015 #51

An untrue statement that has been debunked 1000 times, yet it still persists on DU. bvar22 Nov 2015 #21

thank you.. frylock Nov 2015 #47

Actually half the Democratic party voters were the racists who... Human101948 Nov 2015 #54

Working people are just that stupid. Skidmore Nov 2015 #3

they get in because not enough of the left votes saturnsring Nov 2015 #5

Not so much! atreides1 Nov 2015 #15

That was a serious issue. Only 31% of the electorate voted Sheepshank Nov 2015 #24

Bullshit. Give them candidates worth voting for. Fuddnik Nov 2015 #44

we have candidates worth voting for - i dont give a **** what molly said saturnsring Nov 2015 #56

Agree! get the red out Nov 2015 #20

Not stupid (well, not all) but not being shown any viable alternative Armstead Nov 2015 #23

And exactly how do you think Skidmore Nov 2015 #39

I think you hit home the message.... Armstead Nov 2015 #46

ACA passed without a single Republican vote. frylock Nov 2015 #48

Between racism and homophobia (Bevin played on hating Gays) the cons will randys1 Nov 2015 #28

Yes, I think you have the lesson learned. KY is a hate state. A majority of NCjack Nov 2015 #55

There is more to it than that. Many working people dont have time to follow politics as closely Dustlawyer Nov 2015 #53

Don't forget the role of churches in the south! flygal Nov 2015 #60

Maybe this should be pushed on a red state, go tell a red state they are wrong for Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #4

but they elected a dem sos and ag so they dont "elect republicans" at least not exclusively saturnsring Nov 2015 #6

They elected only one Republican since 1971 before last night! Bernblu Nov 2015 #19

Oh, really, McConnell and Paul Rand are republicans. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #30

Governor A Little Weird Nov 2015 #41

My take is a lot simpler: it's Kentucky. DanTex Nov 2015 #10

What is your take on the 2014 national elections? Bernblu Nov 2015 #16

Mid-term election, Dems got crushed. What's your take on 2012? DanTex Nov 2015 #18

In 2012 we had an incumbent president who was a very good candidate running against a poor candidate Bernblu Nov 2015 #22

I don' think the Dems were REALLY crushed. Stevepol Nov 2015 #59

Kentucky is Kentucky, land of the Democratic Party elected county clerk Davis. Fred Sanders Nov 2015 #11

And what's your excuse for Wisconsin? ibegurpard Nov 2015 #33

Is there a question? Fred Sanders Nov 2015 #34

yes ibegurpard Nov 2015 #38

How did the Independent do? JaneyVee Nov 2015 #12

Kickin' Faux pas Nov 2015 #13

Well, you were warned about the red-retalitation. What were the final numbers on turnout? nt kelliekat44 Nov 2015 #14

When 69% of elegiable voters can't be bothered to get out and vote, this is what happens. Agnosticsherbet Nov 2015 #17

A super true statement. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #31

the DNC reasons that if voters don't like what they're offered, it's their own damn fault MisterP Nov 2015 #25

Exactly. Never bother to look to see if it could have been jwirr Nov 2015 #40

They understand fine ibegurpard Nov 2015 #42

I know. Makes me just plain sick. jwirr Nov 2015 #45

Romney won KY by 26 points. JaneyVee Nov 2015 #26

In every off year election we lose because upaloopa Nov 2015 #27

Yes, we could have won more elections in 2014 but it is excuses like "I don't like this or that", Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #32

I voted ibegurpard Nov 2015 #37

word up frylock Nov 2015 #49

KIM DAVIS JI7 Nov 2015 #35

I do think that had something to do with the turnout A Little Weird Nov 2015 #43

will they vote for sanders ? JI7 Nov 2015 #36

I agree with your assessment. Duval Nov 2015 #50

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Nov 2015 #52

Bevin won because of Kim Davis NYCButterfinger Nov 2015 #57

Huge K/R 840high Nov 2015 #58

Here in PA, we did very well mvd Nov 2015 #61