2016 Postmortem

tex-wyo-dem

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54. So, your saying that...

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 02:22 PM

Nov 2015

A relatively unknown candidate with much less government experience than his competition, a black man with a Muslim sounding name, a Muslim Kenyan father and a white mother was more electable than a highly experienced politician with a consistent and unblemished record who happens to identify himself as a democratic socialist? Okay...whatever.

I totally agree, Bernie and Obama are two very different candidates. The strengths and weaknesses for electability, IMO, are a wash between the two. The similarity: they are both running against the exact same candidate. Obama overcame his electability issues because, it appears, Hillary's negatives were strong enough to overcome Obama's negatives.

We'll find out if Bernie can accomplish the same.

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Hillary's Polls - Shocking Proof or History Repeating Itself? [View all] tecelote Nov 2015 OP

Thumbs up! ccinamon Nov 2015 #1

It's like Sanders and Obama were mirror images of each other! brooklynite Nov 2015 #2

You forgot the young, virile, and charismatic part DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #3

You do realize that young people adore Bernie, don't you? Fawke Em Nov 2015 #44

The polls indicate he is tied or actually trailing HRC among young people. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #45

Maybe the pollsters don't hear from the young Bernies fans is because they only own cell phones. eom Fawke Em Nov 2015 #47

Reputable pollsters use landline/cellphone frames... DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #48

It's not enough... CheshireDog Nov 2015 #53

Uh huh. tecelote Nov 2015 #4

I'm not an oligarch, or part of the corporate owned media, ToxMarz Nov 2015 #5

You measure Bernie as president and Hillary as a candidate? Why is that? Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 #6

I think you're trying a little hard to parse words ToxMarz Nov 2015 #12

It's not the oligarchy and corporate owned media that will get her elected? SmittynMo Nov 2015 #11

No response to you reply, I see. Shocker. smh SammyWinstonJack Nov 2015 #29

She has a lot more than that voting for her VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #27

Also,Obama had the most politically savvy campaign managers in sufrommich Nov 2015 #15

Ya wait a minute pinebox Nov 2015 #40

Bernie is unelectable primarily because he's a self-described socialist. DanTex Nov 2015 #7

Please explain Rilgin Nov 2015 #13

The socialism thing is one of the problems. He also lacks charisma, DanTex Nov 2015 #17

Yet he polls better than she does. Rilgin Nov 2015 #24

Depends on the poll. DanTex Nov 2015 #25

Holy crap SammyWinstonJack Nov 2015 #31

Did you ever wonder why she's being attacked? SmittynMo Nov 2015 #34

Because she's the frontrunner, presumptive nominee, and strongest candidate. DanTex Nov 2015 #35

Oh gee, I can't argue that SmittynMo Nov 2015 #36

Argue or not, that is the reason. DanTex Nov 2015 #37

I think that all national polls that include candidates that are not BootinUp Nov 2015 #28

So Bernie's unelectable because he's a... tex-wyo-dem Nov 2015 #49

My point is that Bernie is unelectable. Because he's a self-described socialist. DanTex Nov 2015 #52

So, your saying that... tex-wyo-dem Nov 2015 #54

I remember Locrian Nov 2015 #8

Will you all stop with the "they are afraid meme?" upaloopa Nov 2015 #9

No, he's better than Obama SmittynMo Nov 2015 #14

Bernie is no Obama. OnyxCollie Nov 2015 #22

Oh Democratic Socialist! pinebox Nov 2015 #41

2016 is not 2008, and losing by 20+ points is not a good precursor for winning Godhumor Nov 2015 #10

Just as a candidate DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #18

I can unequivocally state that I'm afraid of Clinton. Fawke Em Nov 2015 #46

I'm on to full-on mirthful. Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #51

HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Nov 2015 #16

We have two forms of democracy as Americans. raouldukelives Nov 2015 #19

It appears that, as always, we do not learn from the past or even the present. kelliekat44 Nov 2015 #20

You obviously don't remember BootinUp Nov 2015 #21

hillary has mark penn on her side too! wendylaroux Nov 2015 #30

Clinton is the conservative Robbins Nov 2015 #23

This is the kind of post that makes me want to scream. Adrahil Nov 2015 #33

"the ammo the GOP will need" hootinholler Nov 2015 #26

Uh...the people who lost were also trying to be conservative. jeff47 Nov 2015 #39

Yeah, 44%/22% is exactly like 71%/15%. gmab. EOM lunamagica Nov 2015 #32

I feel the same way about Martin O'Malley Bucky Nov 2015 #38

It wasn't yet a two man race at this point in 2008, Edwards had considerable support. tritsofme Nov 2015 #42

In what regard is Sanders no Obama? frylock Nov 2015 #43

Bernard Sanders can not win so who cares what happened in 2008? moobu2 Nov 2015 #50