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In reply to the discussion: If you are going to vote for the establishment candidate why are you on Democratic Underground? [View all]Andy823
(11,555 posts)148. You made a good point
"Politics is about compromise between conflicting points of view, conflicting agendas, if conflict is not allowed then compromise will never be reached."
So what happens when people have the "my way or the highway" belief system, that they and the candidate they support, are the only ones that are right, and if they are not the nominee, well they simply won't vote? I think everyone has a right to disagree with things they don't see eye to eye on, but we should simply agree to disagree and not go over the edge and post all kinds of things that are nothing more than flame bait, meant to alienate those who don't agree, and start flame wars, and I have seen a lot of that on this board.
Compromise is something we have to do on a daily basis, in work, and in our family life. It may not be exactly the way we want things to go, but it's much better than nothing getting done, or in making enemies of those who hold a lot of the same ideas that you might. I am supporting Martin O'Malley, but I have never trash either of the other two candidates. I don't see any reason to trash them, but instead I try and post positive things about O'Malley. I also try and ignore many of the more toxic threads that I do not agree with, simply because I know it will on lead to arguments.
Sometimes I think posters go to far with their dislike for the "other" candidate, and they cross the line and could get tombstones for what they say. Everyone should think about that before posting.
So what happens when people have the "my way or the highway" belief system, that they and the candidate they support, are the only ones that are right, and if they are not the nominee, well they simply won't vote? I think everyone has a right to disagree with things they don't see eye to eye on, but we should simply agree to disagree and not go over the edge and post all kinds of things that are nothing more than flame bait, meant to alienate those who don't agree, and start flame wars, and I have seen a lot of that on this board.
Compromise is something we have to do on a daily basis, in work, and in our family life. It may not be exactly the way we want things to go, but it's much better than nothing getting done, or in making enemies of those who hold a lot of the same ideas that you might. I am supporting Martin O'Malley, but I have never trash either of the other two candidates. I don't see any reason to trash them, but instead I try and post positive things about O'Malley. I also try and ignore many of the more toxic threads that I do not agree with, simply because I know it will on lead to arguments.
Sometimes I think posters go to far with their dislike for the "other" candidate, and they cross the line and could get tombstones for what they say. Everyone should think about that before posting.
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If you are going to vote for the establishment candidate why are you on Democratic Underground? [View all]
Fumesucker
Nov 2015
OP
Face reality. If Bernie loses nomination, vote for Hillary then pressure her to change
bjobotts
Nov 2015
#194
Times change but ideals less so. Democrats weren't pushed underground they gave in.
Live and Learn
Nov 2015
#9
But what really hurts are the attacks from the left, they are the real enemies
Fumesucker
Nov 2015
#11
I get you, and where you're coming from. I hope most other DUers do too. nt
Electric Monk
Nov 2015
#15
RW attacks on Democrats are still banned. Left-wing attacks on above-ground Democrats
yodermon
Nov 2015
#90
The owner of the site identifies it as a place for promoting Democrats. Maybe you should ask him.
pnwmom
Nov 2015
#7
bvar22 agrees with you and Maxine Waters (The ONLY Dem "NO" Vote on Afghanistan).
bvar22
Nov 2015
#111
You know, we did pretty much drop pallets of $100 bills. But most ended up in Chalabi's pockets and
leveymg
Nov 2015
#114
I'm with you on most of that, but US special ops fought shoulder to shoulder with UBL in Kosovo.
leveymg
Nov 2015
#121
What Hillary did was worse. She voted for it because she thought it would help her become President.
Dawgs
Nov 2015
#87
Kerry said in a debate that he would've gone into Iraq had he been prez at the time.
arcane1
Nov 2015
#133
If anyone thinks a message forum is a truly 'underground' vehicle for change...
wyldwolf
Nov 2015
#33
I had no clue we would elect a democratic president who would let 7 million families be thrown into
jtuck004
Nov 2015
#39
Why is an unrealistic purist here? This is not just for the ultra-left, but you can be here.
RBInMaine
Nov 2015
#23
I'm glad you are comfortable with a candidate who was fooled by the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy
Fumesucker
Nov 2015
#24
Why are you trying to be NON-democratic and stop others from being here? That's INSANE.
RBInMaine
Nov 2015
#26
The guy who just got his ass kicked in the KY governors election was pragmatic and not a purist
tularetom
Nov 2015
#84
They were hustling us. We knew it. Millions of people knew it. Those who voted for it cannot pretend
GoneFishin
Nov 2015
#38
My opinion is that she is aligns herself with money and power every time. Nameless, faceless voters
GoneFishin
Nov 2015
#35
As long as there is discrimination, injustice and inequality, Establishment IS a Dirty word
Demeter
Nov 2015
#42
Some people may remember that the establishment has disenfranchised millions of blacks..
Fumesucker
Nov 2015
#69
Do you remember what happened when 200,000+ registered Dems in FL voted for Bush?
frylock
Nov 2015
#113
Wait..... a white male who has served in Congress for 25+ years is not "establishment"? (nt)
Nye Bevan
Nov 2015
#51
I wouldn't have written this OP but for the near hourly loyalty oath posts..
Fumesucker
Nov 2015
#58
Then why would we consider someone who was fooled by GWB as a good candidate?
Fumesucker
Nov 2015
#59
I'm glad you are comfortable with a candidate who was fooled by the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy
Fumesucker
Nov 2015
#72
Considering Skinner is a professed Clinton supporter, why don't you ask him what the U in DU means?
Godhumor
Nov 2015
#76
If you aren't going to vote for a Democrat why are you complaining about those of us....
Walk away
Nov 2015
#89
Once in, the troupes had to be fed and cared for. Bernie did not want them in harms way in
DhhD
Nov 2015
#164
The "Underground" aspect is routinely pissed on here, by center-right posters....
villager
Nov 2015
#128
For those of us who experienced the 60's, DU is not "underground" in that sense.
jalan48
Nov 2015
#140
Because we are not falling for your "put a repuglican in the White House" shtick.
IHateTheGOP
Nov 2015
#149
I stand corrected, "Dear" Peggy. I should have written 2001. I came here just after
dinkytron
Nov 2015
#166
According to Skinner, this site was never about fighting establishment Democrats
Agnosticsherbet
Nov 2015
#182
Like gentrification, conservatives move in after liberals make a place livable, destroying
whereisjustice
Nov 2015
#205
'many of us have been in the wrong place for a long time'! Lots of people are wondering
sabrina 1
Nov 2015
#212