2016 Postmortem

Phlem

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104. Right and the Der duh der der is

Fri Nov 6, 2015, 03:17 PM

Nov 2015

strong in the Hillary supporters yet they're convinced they're doing right by America with their short term vision, cause, you know the, the blinders.

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The Full Release of the TPP May Just End Clinton's Primary Candidacy [View all] berni_mccoy Nov 2015 OP

The effort put in to destroy Hillary, imagine if that effort was redirected to support the party. randys1 Nov 2015 #1

/thread. JaneyVee Nov 2015 #5

It looks like the people not wanting to end this thread are in the majority. Sorry! erronis Nov 2015 #140

Simply incredible RobertEarl Nov 2015 #214

True dat. n/t RoccoR5955 Nov 2015 #235

or redirected to help their candidate DURHAM D Nov 2015 #6

Imagine RobertEarl Nov 2015 #217

The effort *is* to support the party HerbChestnut Nov 2015 #9

This. kath Nov 2015 #33

Well said....nt TheProgressive Nov 2015 #37

+1 JackInGreen Nov 2015 #51

Hear! Hear! berni_mccoy Nov 2015 #62

/\_/\_This right here_/\_/\ Scuba Nov 2015 #66

Good answer! Le Taz Hot Nov 2015 #84

+1 Bubzer Nov 2015 #100

+1 Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 #102

+1000 nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #116

... AzDar Nov 2015 #117

this retrowire Nov 2015 #127

Thank you. jhart3333 Nov 2015 #141

...^ that 840high Nov 2015 #142

Very well said. Unknown Beatle Nov 2015 #147

Completely agree! closeupready Nov 2015 #155

Agree 100% Plucketeer Nov 2015 #158

Exactly. Look at the record. nt SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #193

Wow, I really don't think you actually understand government mythology Nov 2015 #314

Wow, I really don't think you actually understand what I wrote Plucketeer Nov 2015 #315

+100, Herb! Duppers Nov 2015 #173

Precisely! n/t Mr. Evil Nov 2015 #191

Yes, Yes, Yes. Clearly and simply stated. Agony Nov 2015 #196

Yup. truebluegreen Nov 2015 #207

+1 Paka Nov 2015 #229

ABSOLUTELY! n/t RoccoR5955 Nov 2015 #237

Nailed it! ybbor Nov 2015 #259

exactly. Though she is clearly better than the GOP, she is not the best the Dems have Fast Walker 52 Nov 2015 #274

+1 Katashi_itto Nov 2015 #289

+1 Bernie-2016 Nov 2015 #305

Dam straight jack_krass Nov 2015 #308

The Hillary hate is too strong workinclasszero Nov 2015 #26

I have read some real Hillary-Hate messages. They are quite different from this Cal33 Nov 2015 #81

+1 Bubzer Nov 2015 #103

Agree. eom Duval Nov 2015 #110

Yup. Laying out the record is not "hate." nt SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #195

You mean like Bernie helping the NRA and workinclasszero Nov 2015 #211

You are welcome to lay out the events/positions to which you refer. SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #220

just because you believe it doesn't make it true Perogie Nov 2015 #268

I�m late to the game but wanted to echo your sentiment dorkzilla Nov 2015 #284

Right and the Der duh der der is Phlem Nov 2015 #104

The real question is why does Hillary hate her base? Live and Learn Nov 2015 #120

The Hillary hate is why she cannot win. It's a waste of time to back her. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #194

A bigger waste of time is backing a 75 year old Socialist and expecting him to win the GE. Beacool Nov 2015 #297

It simply is not hate. You clearly do not understand. Agony Nov 2015 #197

It's a shame you're blind to the facts in the OP, since we're bringing up various forms of blindness AtheistCrusader Nov 2015 #248

Talking points, not so much. You should stop using them. cui bono Nov 2015 #249

and blinds you Perogie Nov 2015 #267

Deflect, redirect, blame. Anything but discussing the substance of the OP. Got it. nt 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #32

Hillary hate is a nationwide agenda, started by the GOP many years ago. randys1 Nov 2015 #72

You illustrate my point well. Blame it on "RW Hillary Hate", totally ignore issues & substance. nt 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #74

More anti Hillary posts on DU than any other board, including rightwing boards, on the internet randys1 Nov 2015 #75

But wait! I thought it was Bernistas who were oh-so-guilty of "conspiracy nonsense"? 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #77

I dont know what you are talking about. More anti Hillary posts on DU than any board randys1 Nov 2015 #78

Hint: Hillary is still engaged in a thing called a Primary Election 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #89

+1 Bubzer Nov 2015 #108

+1 - echo! erronis Nov 2015 #146

Very good! SammyWinstonJack Nov 2015 #260

+1!!! dorkzilla Nov 2015 #286

Stats please? maybe a graph or two. cui bono Nov 2015 #253

There is nothing wrong with anti-Hillary posts that are based on Hillary's own Live and Learn Nov 2015 #124

I know too lostinnm Nov 2015 #129

Before I will believe that BS, bvar22 Nov 2015 #202

Well, you could go visit a rightwing board and look for yourself. randys1 Nov 2015 #203

More BS. bvar22 Nov 2015 #212

And the hits on Hillary keep coming by the dozens here at DU randys1 Nov 2015 #219

Proving bvar22's point. Bernie-2016 Nov 2015 #309

Take some time to re-examine Hillary. 840high Nov 2015 #145

If you seriously thing that criticizing Hillary from the Left is THE SAME THING as the vile hatred yodermon Nov 2015 #170

I criticize her all the time, many here are here solely to tear her down. randys1 Nov 2015 #172

Bernie initially said that he would not say anything negative about fellow Democrats during the Cal33 Nov 2015 #174

What? SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #198

You are correct. Pointing out differences is not the same as not being a gentleman. My Cal33 Nov 2015 #213

And it is going to make her path to the White House impossible. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #206

Impossible...Unelectable...all seen here many times a day, all seen at rw boards many times a day randys1 Nov 2015 #208

Back to the TPP. Have you read the text? JDPriestly Nov 2015 #238

Show me one word, one post of mine where I REMOTELY show that I like it randys1 Nov 2015 #287

Corporate greed rules as always. Paka Nov 2015 #233

Or do an OP about his/her candidate. riversedge Nov 2015 #45

Hillary ISN'T the Party EdwardBernays Nov 2015 #83

sigh randys1 Nov 2015 #86

Sigh all you want EdwardBernays Nov 2015 #96

Hillary IS the party if she is the nominee. That is how it works. randys1 Nov 2015 #98

no EdwardBernays Nov 2015 #99

Demonizing has been almost all one way around here...That is a fact. randys1 Nov 2015 #101

I was banned from the Hillary group EdwardBernays Nov 2015 #107

As I've said in other posts, the American political spectrum is extremely distorted. Bubzer Nov 2015 #133

Until that is a collective decision. It must be an individual one. raouldukelives Nov 2015 #262

i envy you. We're thinking of taking our two liberal votes to some other nation erronis Nov 2015 #143

I am so happy EdwardBernays Nov 2015 #156

I've lived in Europe for quite a few years, too, although it was long ago. Kids didn't Cal33 Nov 2015 #178

How I envy you. Unknown Beatle Nov 2015 #157

well... EdwardBernays Nov 2015 #160

I�m right behind you, brother... dorkzilla Nov 2015 #292

You'll love it EdwardBernays Nov 2015 #298

Oh I know that... dorkzilla Nov 2015 #300

Where are we going? Planet Ten! When? Real soon. EdwardBernays Nov 2015 #307

Having lived most of my life in/around NYC dorkzilla Nov 2015 #311

the complete removal EdwardBernays Nov 2015 #313

I'm pretty sure you think you are serious Sheepshank Nov 2015 #184

Who will show them the door? no text DhhD Nov 2015 #276

Certainly not the fake Bernie supporter here Sheepshank Nov 2015 #285

Really, you don't know what a ham sandwich is? zalinda Nov 2015 #291

No. In every way possible, no. No ONE person will EVER be the party. Bubzer Nov 2015 #125

Sounds a hell of a lot like "If the president does it, it's not illegal", doesn't it? beerandjesus Nov 2015 #246

It does, and thats a problem Bubzer Nov 2015 #247

Will she also be the state if elected? Fairgo Nov 2015 #135

A little more than 2 centuries ago, the whole world was ruled by kings and emperors. Humans Cal33 Nov 2015 #183

Agreed Fairgo Nov 2015 #186

Well, she ain't yet! nt SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #200

+1000 nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #126

What, specifically, do you disagree with? Le Taz Hot Nov 2015 #90

The effort to destroy her, very strong. Lots of work put into it especially with randys1 Nov 2015 #95

So, you got nothin'. Le Taz Hot Nov 2015 #111

I sure dont have hundreds of posts to my credit attempting to destroy a Democratic candidate. randys1 Nov 2015 #115

LOL! Le Taz Hot Nov 2015 #118

ACtually, I dont have ONE...wanna make a bet on that? randys1 Nov 2015 #119

and yet you cant show me ONE , can you...The reason you cant is because they dont exist randys1 Nov 2015 #280

you should Perogie Nov 2015 #270

Oh really, so even if it results in President Carson, I should? randys1 Nov 2015 #288

Maybe, just like some one who eats something horrible Phlem Nov 2015 #123

Something specififc please. 840high Nov 2015 #148

The gregorian chant of Bernie fans... workinclasszero Nov 2015 #169

^Absolutely. Loki Nov 2015 #114

Thanks. A bit of sanity is always welcome. erronis Nov 2015 #149

Cause there has been no effort from Hillary supporters to take down Phlem Nov 2015 #128

Show me ONE post of mine remotely close to "taking down Bernie" , or admit you are wrong randys1 Nov 2015 #175

why just one of yours when the one I'm providing is of your collective? Phlem Nov 2015 #182

We are trying to save the Party from the Billionaire controlled puppets. nm rhett o rick Nov 2015 #188

Maybe She Shouldn't Lie So Much billhicks76 Nov 2015 #199

I am out of touch because i want to vote for whoever the dem candidate is...wow randys1 Nov 2015 #201

Ridiculous Analysis billhicks76 Nov 2015 #303

how about the party support a fair process restorefreedom Nov 2015 #216

No effort at all. She does this stuff to herself. Motown_Johnny Nov 2015 #258

What is the finalization date? Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #2

Link to NYT article... mak3cats Nov 2015 #278

I knew Clinton was not there foe the finalization of TPP, Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #299

I'm sorry; by "finalization" I thought you meant when it would become law... mak3cats Nov 2015 #301

It does not support the title of this OP, most know she was not there at the finalization Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #302

You had asked "When is [not was] the finalization date?" mak3cats Nov 2015 #306

Hostility? How could this Clinton's presidency candidate run? She was not in on the final plan. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #310

You got NOTHING since she said NO awhile ago. But carry on in your desperate riversedge Nov 2015 #3

She said 'no' a week before the first debate... HerbChestnut Nov 2015 #10

THIS Dawgs Nov 2015 #40

^^^^++++^^^^ tex-wyo-dem Nov 2015 #161

Awhile ago? pinebox Nov 2015 #48

Please provide proof of that. Perogie Nov 2015 #271

From the title, I thought this was another HA Goodman post... DanTex Nov 2015 #4

Bingo. Just as vile. riversedge Nov 2015 #60

Her supporters are DU's most conservative. They *support* the TPP. nt Romulox Nov 2015 #7

Look at how they jumped on this thread, basically without reading it berni_mccoy Nov 2015 #8

But they all claim that they *used* to support Bernie. Honest they did! nt Romulox Nov 2015 #11

One even claims that Bernie isn't far enough to the left for him. That must be why A Simple Game Nov 2015 #112

Imagine spending this much time compiling information to support Bernie the way Bernie randys1 Nov 2015 #12

Bullshit. Thius is much bigger than the personalities Armstead Nov 2015 #122

My thoughts exactly hellraiser69 Nov 2015 #132

It's unbelievable isn't it? HerbChestnut Nov 2015 #14

It's unbelievable but true there are more negative posts on DU about Hillary than free republic randys1 Nov 2015 #16

Based on issues. *Issues* HerbChestnut Nov 2015 #19

Issues? Stop making so much sense! 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #52

...! KoKo Nov 2015 #106

Negative or truthful? berni_mccoy Nov 2015 #20

Their negative posts can also be found on FR, misterhighwasted Nov 2015 #65

Hell the teabaggers probably come to DU now workinclasszero Nov 2015 #215

No, I think they're over at the Clinton Cave. cui bono Nov 2015 #250

What? Who supports TPP? randys1 Nov 2015 #15

You do, once your candidate "evolves" again. Romulox Nov 2015 #17

lol BOOM. that just happened. berni_mccoy Nov 2015 #21

You are contributing to the negativity needed to destroy the Democrats chance at the WH randys1 Nov 2015 #71

By speaking the truth, you mean. nt Romulox Nov 2015 #73

Oh no, you arent even close to the truth when you say shit like I support TPP randys1 Nov 2015 #176

Clinton wrote on "Hard Choices" that TPP was the "gold standard" of free trades. Electric Mayhem Nov 2015 #234

conservative DUer = left of center moderate nt firebrand80 Nov 2015 #27

hardly ibegurpard Nov 2015 #34

Nonsense. Conservative DUer=corporatist with moderate social positions. nt Romulox Nov 2015 #49

And left of left of center moderate = tealeft firebagger frylock Nov 2015 #131

Conservative DUers support warrantless surveillance, elective wars, signature strikes, double taps, Maedhros Nov 2015 #136

I guess Obama is a right-winger firebrand80 Nov 2015 #165

You're beginning to catch on to the bait-and-switch.[n/t] Maedhros Nov 2015 #167

Obama is a moderate Republican. cui bono Nov 2015 #251

I have never seen a campaign end so many times..... NCTraveler Nov 2015 #13

I dd say "may" berni_mccoy Nov 2015 #18

Yep, just like you said her campaing may end in '07 because of criminal activity. nt. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #39

Well she did lose. Her campaign was pretty much berni_mccoy Nov 2015 #41

Love this. Yep. That did it. lol. nt. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #50

Yawn ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #22

OMG not this shit again. moobu2 Nov 2015 #23

EEK! Stop with the stubborn facts that Hillary can't run away from fast enough. -nt- 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #54

K&R n/t Catherina Nov 2015 #24

What's next, the emails again? moobu2 Nov 2015 #25

Have you taken over for DSB as chief spammer of my posts? berni_mccoy Nov 2015 #31

Yikes! I hadn't heard of any limits to the number of times someone may reply to the same post. NurseJackie Nov 2015 #36

There is no limit, but it's interesting to note berni_mccoy Nov 2015 #44

That's a lot of extrapolating. So much effort. Is it worth it? NurseJackie Nov 2015 #53

If you say so... berni_mccoy Nov 2015 #88

You call that refuting? NurseJackie Nov 2015 #93

It's not nearly as much effort as that which you are putting into replying with nonsense cui bono Nov 2015 #252

Well, I guess that explains why s/he isn't very good at it. ;-) NurseJackie Nov 2015 #293

That's the second time today I have seen that kind of upaloopa Nov 2015 #82

Nice work, pulling all this together. Thanks 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #28

This is where I would hope the discussion would go ejbr Nov 2015 #279

" O K." DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #29

Hi DSB! berni_mccoy Nov 2015 #46

" O K." DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #55

lol berni_mccoy Nov 2015 #56

Sure...That was a great set up...Have a nice day, really... DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #61

You as well. enjoy the weekend too berni_mccoy Nov 2015 #63

Congratulations on this post Fairgo Nov 2015 #154

Thank you Fairgo. berni_mccoy Nov 2015 #241

Opposes it right before the first azmom Nov 2015 #30

As long as TPP is never passed, JEB Nov 2015 #35

You sound strangely convinced will 'never' pass. 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #58

Personally, I think it will pass JEB Nov 2015 #67

I wish I lived closer to DC, as I hear there will be a ruckus raised there, about the TPP 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #70

Excellent. Thanks for the link. JEB Nov 2015 #76

I'm betting that Bernie will be there, and O'Malley probably as well. 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #79

Probably rounding up some more big dollar donors. JEB Nov 2015 #87

Well...she IS running for president demwing Nov 2015 #209

Thanks for your hard work on this thread...nt TheProgressive Nov 2015 #38

K n R!! bbgrunt Nov 2015 #42

benghazi... no.. um... emails... no... um... THIS! THIS will end Hillary Clinton!!! wyldwolf Nov 2015 #43

I really doubt that. HereSince1628 Nov 2015 #47

guess it was true 7? years ago in some state of the union address, President O said we would Sunlei Nov 2015 #57

Kicketty Kickin' Faux pas Nov 2015 #59

ask 10 random people what the TPP is alc Nov 2015 #64

Me neither. misterhighwasted Nov 2015 #91

This treestar Nov 2015 #150

I'll be honest, I wasn't expecting to see the "nobody cares" hughee99 Nov 2015 #283

It is all one Big Money Party - truedelphi Nov 2015 #68

She has so many disqualifiers, this one will just have to get in line. Scuba Nov 2015 #69

Kick madwivoter Nov 2015 #80

You bet Trump will take this and run with it. He will destroy Hillary using the TPP AZ Progressive Nov 2015 #85

Ha! He will destroy her just like Gowdy & his goons did. NOT. misterhighwasted Nov 2015 #92

It Amazes Me! IllinoisBrenel Nov 2015 #94

Thanks for pulling this together. Those of us who worked hard to Stop TPP KoKo Nov 2015 #97

Exactly, because they don�t have any defense... dorkzilla Nov 2015 #294

She's been in it up to her virtual eyeballs. SoapBox Nov 2015 #105

It should but probably won't. Unfortunately. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2015 #109

K&R. All the defensiveness is highly revealing. Hillary is in this up to CharlotteVale Nov 2015 #113

K & R AzDar Nov 2015 #121

K&R!!!! Phlem Nov 2015 #130

Who is actually going to read this whole thing and change their minds? Laser102 Nov 2015 #134

So you'd rather people not know the truth? berni_mccoy Nov 2015 #139

Probably few. But somewhere teams of people have divied it up and are HereSince1628 Nov 2015 #164

As much as I'd like to see the end of her candidacy, I'm not that hopeful Victor_c3 Nov 2015 #137

C'mon now, I've seen some morphing/evolving from bernie also. misterhighwasted Nov 2015 #162

There is still a little bit of a difference there between the two candidates Victor_c3 Nov 2015 #179

well, I've made and agree fully with your point stupidicus Nov 2015 #218

That candidate who traded that Iraq War NO Vote he brags about misterhighwasted Nov 2015 #231

We're still talking about the lesser of two evils here Victor_c3 Nov 2015 #242

so he didn'vote for the Iraq war but voted for the funding bill misterhighwasted Nov 2015 #243

So Bernie Sanders is just as much of a piece of crap as Hillary Clinton? Victor_c3 Nov 2015 #256

Perhaps, with the small qualifier ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #138

Very well researched and documented...except they don't want to hear it. They call it Hilary hate. EndElectoral Nov 2015 #144

Excellent work. Thank you k/r 840high Nov 2015 #151

Excellent research, thank you. nt kristopher Nov 2015 #152

I think the logic of NAFTA, CAFTA, TPP, etc. ymetca Nov 2015 #153

Bernie is pro-guns and in the pocket of the NRA....no one is perfect...I guess. Jack-o-Lantern Nov 2015 #159

So much in their pocket that they gave him a D- rating. Maedhros Nov 2015 #168

Yeah that's why they gave him a grade of D- senz Nov 2015 #189

One place where I think you over-stated your argument thesquanderer Nov 2015 #163

That was the article I referenced... berni_mccoy Nov 2015 #166

But, but, but...she just worked for OBAMA!!!11!!! She didn't in_cog_ni_to Nov 2015 #171

The bottom line is this Progressive dog Nov 2015 #177

K & R !!! WillyT Nov 2015 #180

Bwahahahahahahahha!!!!!! JoePhilly Nov 2015 #181

Looks like you went to a lot of work Sheepshank Nov 2015 #185

ThinkProgress, in the bag for HRC, does not mention TPP senz Nov 2015 #187

...! Thanks I've noticed that......... KoKo Nov 2015 #204

Thom said one of the editors? is/was senz Nov 2015 #205

...! "Think Progress" and "CAP" ...and a Search Engine Query will give some REVELATIONS..... KoKo Nov 2015 #224

Thanks for putting that together. Now we'll see how the media frames it Babel_17 Nov 2015 #190

Hillary simply is not electable. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #192

PLEASE DON'T READ THIS POST! sorechasm Nov 2015 #210

Clinton is a jobs program for Asia. And Asia will load her up with cash for her "foundation". whereisjustice Nov 2015 #221

Wha? George II Nov 2015 #222

Hillary wants Wall Street to know she can fuck over the middle class and below as well as any man whereisjustice Nov 2015 #223

" 1. That she reserved judgment until the deal was finalized " George II Nov 2015 #225

Why reply twice? first you dismiss the post altogether and now you're worried about the content? berni_mccoy Nov 2015 #227

But she made her statement of (sort-of) opposition when it was still unknown to her. Jim Lane Nov 2015 #312

Thank you for this insightful post... Thespian2 Nov 2015 #226

K&R Paka Nov 2015 #228

Hillary's Business Legacy at State Dept (leading part in drafting TPP) antigop Nov 2015 #230

Hillary is and has always been Ferd Berfel Nov 2015 #232

Going To Have To Come Back & Check It Out Later, But ChiciB1 Nov 2015 #236

The TPP will do more damage to the middle and working classes than any other trade deal Bernblu Nov 2015 #239

I'm glad Bernie hit this point tonight berni_mccoy Nov 2015 #240

Kicked and recommended Uncle Joe Nov 2015 #244

The people who care most about TPP are not average voters. What they are-- eridani Nov 2015 #245

Not necessarily. But it will insure that we will lose the GE if she is the nominee and TPP passes-- eridani Nov 2015 #254

+1000 Populist_Prole Nov 2015 #255

KnR nt chknltl Nov 2015 #257

The bottom line for me? I'm a Bernie supporter, but I'll vote for the Democratic phylny Nov 2015 #261

We live in the most democracy shareholders allow. raouldukelives Nov 2015 #263

are you kidding? TheFarseer Nov 2015 #264

Not likely book_worm Nov 2015 #265

The typical voter doesn't know/doesn't care. Algernon Moncrieff Nov 2015 #266

Just like he would destroy her in the first debate and be leading afterwards. stevenleser Nov 2015 #269

Are you talking about Obama? Perogie Nov 2015 #272

Is Obama running? I suggest you get back in your time machine and return to 2015. Nt stevenleser Nov 2015 #273

your suggestion is noted Perogie Nov 2015 #281

What's Whoopi and the Kardasians doing? Katashi_itto Nov 2015 #290

From your keyboard to God's eyeballs Demeter Nov 2015 #275

K & R - and thank you for the research... mak3cats Nov 2015 #277

Better Believe It! n/t JTFrog Nov 2015 #282

Thank you for posting this...I�m sure it took time to compile dorkzilla Nov 2015 #295

Sure, keep hoping........... Beacool Nov 2015 #296

Ouch! Joe Turner Nov 2015 #304