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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: If Bernie is not accepted here as a Democrat [View all]BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)83. You *can* see it that way - OR - you can say that you have enough
belief in the Democratic Party platform to want to take the next step and make it official and register as a Democrat. It speaks to character.
He is running as a Democrat on the Democratic ticket.
That's good enough for me.
If, for example, Rand Paul decided to run on the Democratic Party ticket but doesn't register as a Democrat, would that be a-okay with you? It wouldn't be okay with me.
As a Party, we seem to be all fine with people who say they are Democrats (and register as such) but don't act like or vote as Democrats. Why is that? Is the label more important than actions?
Fist of all, we need to understand that not every single Democrat is perfect. We need to look to their constituency to understand why that is. No politician is perfect. Not a single one. Even Bernie Sanders.
That said...
Labels are NOT more important than actions. I make that case every day. Actions always speak louder than words. I have NO problem accepting Bernie Sanders as a Democrat. He's voted with Democrats 98% of the time (the core reason the Democratic Party has allowed him to run in their primaries). He's strong against wealth inequality. He's pro-labor, pro-Social Security, pro-universal healthcare, pro-education, pro-strong national security, pro-veterans, and isn't afraid to vote for war when it's necessary. So why is HE so adamantly against registering as a Democrat and making it official. Because he doesn't, and his resisted all these decades, people who vote Democratic Party distrust his motives. It's why his poll numbers seem frozen. They don't trust him.
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I hope it does become an issue in NH. I can't think of anything that would be more foolish
sabrina 1
Nov 2015
#104
“I’m a Democrat and should be on the ballot, I don’t think I need to say too much more,” ...
Kalidurga
Nov 2015
#128
Bernie is accepted everywhere as a Democrat, no problem...but on the issues, which is what
Fred Sanders
Nov 2015
#2
He is absolutely accepted by the majority of Americans. It's DU Hillary supporters that won't accept
cui bono
Nov 2015
#5
Running as a Democrat does not make him one. He'd be the first to tell you that.
BlueCaliDem
Nov 2015
#22
It's not that he hasn't registered as a Democrat. It's that he's SAID, again and again,
BlueCaliDem
Nov 2015
#66
“I am running as a Democrat, obviously,” Sanders told reporters. “I am a Democrat now.”
Live and Learn
Nov 2015
#71
So you choose to ignore that he SAID he's running as a Democrat. Which makes it so.
cui bono
Nov 2015
#77
Browbeating a registered Democratic voter into believing that Sanders has become
BlueCaliDem
Nov 2015
#85
Choosing a particular avatar and the site having the avatar are different things.
cui bono
Nov 2015
#32
I agree with you on this, the site has sports team avatars as well and that doesn't mean anything
cui bono
Nov 2015
#34
If Sanders had not run as a Democrat he would have run as an independent, and then what?
Fred Sanders
Nov 2015
#135
But then again Democrats would have struggled much more to win back the WH.
Fred Sanders
Nov 2015
#140
Sanders is now a Democrat, having beocme a Democrat when decided to run for the Democratic
Agnosticsherbet
Nov 2015
#10
And just 6 yrs ago he called himself a flat out Socialist....no couching it with the word Democrat
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2015
#19
Yes, you are right. But the rules of the Democratic Party are fine with it.
Agnosticsherbet
Nov 2015
#59
NO they weren't UNTIL yesterday when he was FORCED to become one of us...
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2015
#61
It was New Hampshire state law that had the problem, not the Democratic Party. See the relevant link
Agnosticsherbet
Nov 2015
#63
That is news to me...gonna have to back that up...or change the laughing emoticon.
Fred Sanders
Nov 2015
#136
Bernie announced **yesterday** while registering in NH that he was now a Democrat
Sheepshank
Nov 2015
#52
You are right, but the Democratic Party rules do not require him to be a Democrat.
Agnosticsherbet
Nov 2015
#60
Yes, he could have joined any time. This recent capitulationis not genuine imho
Sheepshank
Nov 2015
#62
I agree. I suspect the will retun to indepedance if and when he looses.
Agnosticsherbet
Nov 2015
#64
"I am not now, nor have I ever been, a liberal Democrat". Bernie Sanders
workinclasszero
Nov 2015
#21
If you were an informed Democrat you would be aware that Bernie is one of 5 co-founders of
Bluenorthwest
Nov 2015
#41
How is that hate? I'm a second generation Democrat and I think the Party is ideologically bankrupt
Bluenorthwest
Nov 2015
#46
No. The Democratic Party doesn't subscribe to straight socialism. Bernie does. That's why he calls
BlueCaliDem
Nov 2015
#48
DU under 'Topics' has 'Democrats' and under 'Democrats' comes 'Bernie Sanders' and always
Bluenorthwest
Nov 2015
#38
The 'not a Democrat' routine is a handful of cranks who take issue with the opinion of the DNC
Bluenorthwest
Nov 2015
#30
No response from BlueCaliDem and not a peep from her cohort which lends silent approval
Bluenorthwest
Nov 2015
#40
President Obama doesn't think for himself? Nancy Pelosi doesn't think for herself?
BlueCaliDem
Nov 2015
#142