2016 Postmortem

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)

84. Political expediency? That's how I see it.

Sat Nov 7, 2015, 10:22 AM

Nov 2015

Up until he had to file his candidacy with New Hampshire, he continued to claim that he's an "Independent" and "Socialist" and "Democratic Socialist". But I didn't hear his tone when he spoke those words to those reporters, so I don't know if he was exasperated, facetious, or genuine.

And I'm certain the majority of Democrats - especially minorities - feel the same way.

When Charlie Crist changed his Party affiliation from Republicans to Independent to Democrat in order to run as a Democrat for Governor of Florida, not many people bought his "change of heart", and he lost.

So no. I'm sorry to disappoint you, but I will NOT remove my factual posts just because Sanders told reporters after having to file as a Democrat in order to run in New Hampshire (the ONLY State where he has a shot at winning from Hillary Clinton) that he's NOW a Democrat.

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If Bernie is not accepted here as a Democrat [View all] UglyGreed Nov 2015 OP

don't be ridiculous! marym625 Nov 2015 #1

Silly me UglyGreed Nov 2015 #45

haha! marym625 Nov 2015 #47

Aside from Bernie voting Democrat from one side Hortensis Nov 2015 #89

Apparently, only till the people put the "Big tent" to the big test demwing Nov 2015 #91

Sorry. Sounds like you're having a bad election season. Hortensis Nov 2015 #95

Why's that? My candidate kicks butt! demwing Nov 2015 #102

We are together in that. I'm very glad Bernie Hortensis Nov 2015 #103

So vote for the workers of the party demwing Nov 2015 #105

I've said before I will IF he becomes the best candidate Hortensis Nov 2015 #108

Which ever candidate we send to the GE is going to win demwing Nov 2015 #109

All our candidates believe in tacking our national problems in a big Hortensis Nov 2015 #113

Do you think Hillary will have an easier time working with the GOP demwing Nov 2015 #117

We see no signs that the GOP will not be as committed to Hortensis Nov 2015 #119

Lol..."tedious yada over Hillary" - I agree! demwing Nov 2015 #120

What qualifies someone to be a Democrat? sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #100

You register with the party. Same as being a Republican. Hortensis Nov 2015 #101

I hope it does become an issue in NH. I can't think of anything that would be more foolish sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #104

Frivolous imaginary battles, to my mind. If the attorneys Hortensis Nov 2015 #112

“I’m a Democrat and should be on the ballot, I don’t think I need to say too much more,” ... Kalidurga Nov 2015 #128

Oh, he did file. No surprise, of course. Thanks, Kalidurga. Hortensis Nov 2015 #139

This message was self-deleted by its author William769 Nov 2015 #75

Bernie is accepted everywhere as a Democrat, no problem...but on the issues, which is what Fred Sanders Nov 2015 #2

He is absolutely accepted by the majority of Americans. It's DU Hillary supporters that won't accept cui bono Nov 2015 #5

Running as a Democrat does not make him one. He'd be the first to tell you that. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #22

It does in this primary. cui bono Nov 2015 #29

He's running AS a Democrat. He's not one. That's pretty simple, too. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #49

I vote AS a Democrat every election. blackspade Nov 2015 #53

Are you registered as a Democrat? BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #65

What about Jessie Jackson? bobbobbins01 Nov 2015 #69

Is he running for president? BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #70

He was at the time. bobbobbins01 Nov 2015 #73

I noted DemocratS not "a Democrat". BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #86

Ah, I get it. Labels are what concern you. blackspade Nov 2015 #79

You *can* see it that way - OR - you can say that you have enough BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #83

That's a lie that BS has never stumped for anyone. Chuy Garcia riderinthestorm Nov 2015 #106

So then explain to me how he goes about registering as a Democrat in Vermont. cui bono Nov 2015 #55

It's not that he hasn't registered as a Democrat. It's that he's SAID, again and again, BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #66

“I am running as a Democrat, obviously,” Sanders told reporters. “I am a Democrat now.” Live and Learn Nov 2015 #71

Political expediency? That's how I see it. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #84

The post is still false. Live and Learn Nov 2015 #88

Opinion isn't fact. But thanks for opining. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #93

It wasn't an opinion. It is a fact. Live and Learn Nov 2015 #97

So you choose to ignore that he SAID he's running as a Democrat. Which makes it so. cui bono Nov 2015 #77

Browbeating a registered Democratic voter into believing that Sanders has become BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #85

So now presenting facts is browbeating. cui bono Nov 2015 #115

What, praytell, IS a Democrat? Armstead Nov 2015 #58

That's an amazing take and a great fucking question. Capn Sunshine Nov 2015 #68

When will be "the right time"? nt TBF Nov 2015 #90

The data do not support this conclusion Android3.14 Nov 2015 #130

W has one as well. trumad Nov 2015 #3

Such a flattering one to UglyGreed Nov 2015 #6

The point is--- trumad Nov 2015 #11

Then why do you have UglyGreed Nov 2015 #12

To fuck with the BS'ers. trumad Nov 2015 #13

LOL UglyGreed Nov 2015 #15

Good Idea bravenak Nov 2015 #51

Choosing a particular avatar and the site having the avatar are different things. cui bono Nov 2015 #32

Here's one for you since UglyGreed Nov 2015 #14

If avatars don't mean shit then why are you posting about them? leftofcool Nov 2015 #16

Follow the thread please UglyGreed Nov 2015 #18

I agree with you on this, the site has sports team avatars as well and that doesn't mean anything cui bono Nov 2015 #34

deep acceptance and meaning to avatars and icons? Sheepshank Nov 2015 #4

Well many people UglyGreed Nov 2015 #9

but because it's an avatar option on DU, it means something significant? Sheepshank Nov 2015 #25

don't get me started on whether you thunked demwing Nov 2015 #92

deep acceptance of labels over meanings? senz Nov 2015 #99

Please show me where you and I have not accepted him as a democrat. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #7

He wasn't until yesterday.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #8

Socialist and Democrat are not mutually exclusive. blackspade Nov 2015 #80

There are Socialist Democrats and Democratic Socialists VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #107

Again, you are mixing a political party with economic theory. blackspade Nov 2015 #123

No I am not VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #124

You can still be a Democratic Socialist and a Democrat. blackspade Nov 2015 #129

No you cannot VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #134

If Sanders had not run as a Democrat he would have run as an independent, and then what? Fred Sanders Nov 2015 #135

Now we dont have to worry about that VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #137

But then again Democrats would have struggled much more to win back the WH. Fred Sanders Nov 2015 #140

No sir..disagree.. VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #145

What are you talking about? blackspade Nov 2015 #143

Did he or did he not have to SAY he is now a VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #144

This message was self-deleted by its author Kentonio Nov 2015 #133

Sanders is now a Democrat, having beocme a Democrat when decided to run for the Democratic Agnosticsherbet Nov 2015 #10

And just 6 yrs ago he called himself a flat out Socialist....no couching it with the word Democrat VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #19

Yes, you are right. But the rules of the Democratic Party are fine with it. Agnosticsherbet Nov 2015 #59

NO they weren't UNTIL yesterday when he was FORCED to become one of us... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #61

It was New Hampshire state law that had the problem, not the Democratic Party. See the relevant link Agnosticsherbet Nov 2015 #63

I am right and now VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #74

The states have the constitutional power to manage elections. Agnosticsherbet Nov 2015 #121

Exactly....that is what I said VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #122

And Hillary use to be a Republican. Which is worse? Live and Learn Nov 2015 #72

When was she a republican, before she was eligible to vote? Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #131

That is news to me...gonna have to back that up...or change the laughing emoticon. Fred Sanders Nov 2015 #136

Bernie announced **yesterday** while registering in NH that he was now a Democrat Sheepshank Nov 2015 #52

You are right, but the Democratic Party rules do not require him to be a Democrat. Agnosticsherbet Nov 2015 #60

Yes, he could have joined any time. This recent capitulationis not genuine imho Sheepshank Nov 2015 #62

I agree. I suspect the will retun to indepedance if and when he looses. Agnosticsherbet Nov 2015 #64

Holy shit! Avatargate! leftofcool Nov 2015 #17

IMO it's better than UglyGreed Nov 2015 #33

Can Bernie Sanders Win the Love of a Party He Scorns? workinclasszero Nov 2015 #20

I don't feel scorned. blackspade Nov 2015 #81

"I am not now, nor have I ever been, a liberal Democrat". Bernie Sanders workinclasszero Nov 2015 #21

He is represented here UglyGreed Nov 2015 #24

That doesn't change the fact that Bernie has held the democratic party workinclasszero Nov 2015 #26

He is a better representative of UglyGreed Nov 2015 #31

As soon as Bernie loses the democratic party nomination workinclasszero Nov 2015 #36

If you were an informed Democrat you would be aware that Bernie is one of 5 co-founders of Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #41

Bernie Sanders quotes: workinclasszero Nov 2015 #44

How is that hate? I'm a second generation Democrat and I think the Party is ideologically bankrupt Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #46

No. The Democratic Party doesn't subscribe to straight socialism. Bernie does. That's why he calls BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #48

True. He's a democratic socialist. That should surprise no one. Avalux Nov 2015 #67

You can also get a Lincoln avatar... SidDithers Nov 2015 #23

Really stretching it UglyGreed Nov 2015 #27

Nelson Mandela?... SidDithers Nov 2015 #28

DU under 'Topics' has 'Democrats' and under 'Democrats' comes 'Bernie Sanders' and always Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #38

Incorrect Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #50

The 'not a Democrat' routine is a handful of cranks who take issue with the opinion of the DNC Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #30

The DNC and the Democratic Party has accepted Sanders as a Dem. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #35

Post removed Post removed Nov 2015 #37

No response from BlueCaliDem and not a peep from her cohort which lends silent approval Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #40

In other words, Bernie thinks for himself and not as part of a herd. -none Nov 2015 #138

President Obama doesn't think for himself? Nancy Pelosi doesn't think for herself? BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #142

Bernie just wants to be a Democrat when it's convenient to him moobu2 Nov 2015 #39

And as soon as he is done using the party for his own ends workinclasszero Nov 2015 #42

OMG... you guys get more and more hilarious. cui bono Nov 2015 #78

That is some shit there... blackspade Nov 2015 #82

Party over policy! pinebox Nov 2015 #43

Truth, truth, truth and truth! senz Nov 2015 #96

I'd like to bookmark your comment here on DU senz Nov 2015 #110

Interesting, it seems to be gone pinebox Nov 2015 #111

And yet my bookmarks are intact. senz Nov 2015 #118

+ all. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2015 #132

Because he is a small d democrat AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #54

I hope you are UglyGreed Nov 2015 #56

Which is why they want to shield the public from his message AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #57

This is why the "Third Way" is a new and different party. senz Nov 2015 #98

Bush's Icon has been here for years and he's not in the Democratic party. William769 Nov 2015 #76

1000 views UglyGreed Nov 2015 #87

How much is that worth? JTFrog Nov 2015 #141

Under Vermont law, Bernie is a Democrat. That is dispositive and all that is relevant. merrily Nov 2015 #94

... Skidmore Nov 2015 #114

It may be a bit peculiar to run for the nomination as an Independent Tarc Nov 2015 #116

It's one of the ugly bullshit lies that some Clinton supporters peddle on DU davidpdx Nov 2015 #125

Personally... 99Forever Nov 2015 #126

He has voted as a Democrat more than Hillary sellitman Nov 2015 #127