2016 Postmortem

aikoaiko

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90. Outsider to the Democratic Party (and more so Republican Party)

Sat Nov 7, 2015, 04:21 PM

Nov 2015

I'm sure you're not really this obtuse to not understand that our two party system has had a stranglehold on US politics.

It's really difficult to come up in one of the parties and be willing and able to challenge the status quo.

That is why Bernie's lifelong status as someone outside the parties gives him legitimacy to challenge. But his life long caucusing makes him a viable Democratic nominee.

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Bernie Sanders: "I'm not a Democrat" [View all] Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 OP

One word... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #1

Me too. bravenak Nov 2015 #2

eating those words...yum yum! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #5

Hahaha RobertEarl Nov 2015 #6

Let me know when he is winning at least a FEW states. Until then bravenak Nov 2015 #8

He won his last election RobertEarl Nov 2015 #21

His senate election? So did she. She had way more voters and a diverse population. bravenak Nov 2015 #31

She lost the last primary RobertEarl Nov 2015 #78

This issue of Bernie's party affiliation is a nonissue. Skinner Nov 2015 #3

Then why did he call himself a Socialist....Not a Democratic Socialist....a full on Socialist VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #7

Socialist and Democrat are not mutually exclusive. Skinner Nov 2015 #9

There are Socialist DEMOCRATS....and Democratic Socialists.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #11

Anyone can be a Democrat if they want. Skinner Nov 2015 #16

He is now.....but he rebuked us until now... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #19

It's just politics. Skinner Nov 2015 #22

for 40 yrs????? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #25

Yes, for 40 years. And he's been a reliable member of our party the whole time, despite the label. Skinner Nov 2015 #29

Not according to him VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #32

A little Progressive history might explain things, starting from the late 1880's. TheBlackAdder Nov 2015 #26

I wish you the best of luck getting those horses back in the barn Capt. Obvious Nov 2015 #18

I have no illusions that I will change anyone's behavior or attitudes. Skinner Nov 2015 #20

I know that and you know that, but there are many here who view his candidacy as an opportunity. onehandle Nov 2015 #23

I don't want to question anyone's motives. Skinner Nov 2015 #30

Oh bullshit ibegurpard Nov 2015 #41

40 + years to evolve. Must be a record. riversedge Nov 2015 #4

Hillary Clinton UglyGreed Nov 2015 #10

And? pinebox Nov 2015 #12

It's the only thing left: He's not officially part of the team, or something. arcane1 Nov 2015 #17

Ok. n/t zappaman Nov 2015 #47

There are a lot of Democrats who are Socialists of various stripes. And, a lot of Socialists Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2015 #13

What a distortion. VT does not have declared parties, Sanders is left of Democrat. TheBlackAdder Nov 2015 #14

Funny that since Sanders ran against Democrats in Vermont VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #35

They might 'call' themselves Democrats, but there is No Party Affiliation in VT. nt TheBlackAdder Nov 2015 #37

So could he.....but he NEVER did.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #40

The ULTIMATE flip/flop n/t cosmicone Nov 2015 #15

Some people like to simplify things because it's to tough otherwise. Therefore, they like labels. rhett o rick Nov 2015 #24

Oh man, switching that letter next to his name from an 'I' to a 'D' might be a dealbreaker HerbChestnut Nov 2015 #27

Not an I VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #34

Even worse!! HerbChestnut Nov 2015 #36

Do you oppose all Capitalsm? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #38

Nope, and neither does Bernie. HerbChestnut Nov 2015 #43

That IS the diff between Democratic Socialists and VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #44

Yep, here we go. HerbChestnut Nov 2015 #48

I didnt say Communist... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #50

Oh I have no doubt you do HerbChestnut Nov 2015 #51

Yes in fact I do VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #52

You mean the one you edited in after you posted? HerbChestnut Nov 2015 #54

Yep that one VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #58

And yours is wrong VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #59

Oh ok. HerbChestnut Nov 2015 #64

I dont have to do that VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #66

Look HerbChestnut Nov 2015 #67

Nonsense? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #68

That was a great read, thanks. HerbChestnut Nov 2015 #70

No where did I say VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #72

Do you even read the things that you post? HerbChestnut Nov 2015 #75

Several times a day as I have been trying to show some VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #77

Furthermore... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #82

That's right, it is Friday again. jeff47 Nov 2015 #28

Not till now... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #33

Wasn't Sheepshank Nov 2015 #65

Considering how the Democratic Party has treated some of us... 99Forever Nov 2015 #39

Bernie Sanders anti-democratic party quotes: workinclasszero Nov 2015 #42

I agree with all of them. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2015 #46

So what will you do when Hillary wins workinclasszero Nov 2015 #55

I will vote for the most progressive anti-war candidate on my ballot. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2015 #56

You laugh, but you know it is why he is a threat to HRC. aikoaiko Nov 2015 #45

Prove it then! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #60

Already done aikoaiko Nov 2015 #73

Bernie has been an insider his whole life VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #74

Not according to the OP. Or does insider mean something different to you than me? aikoaiko Nov 2015 #79

How can he not be thats ridiculous VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #89

Outsider to the Democratic Party (and more so Republican Party) aikoaiko Nov 2015 #90

Bullshit he has caucussed with Dems his entire career VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #91

I didn't realize this had been a secret until now. Vinca Nov 2015 #49

Like all Independents necessarily VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #61

Hahahahaha - I'm not an Independent. Vinca Nov 2015 #86

Neither am I VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #92

I have read wendylaroux Nov 2015 #53

Democratic Socialism or VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #62

Democratic Socialism wendylaroux Nov 2015 #63

Yes they do... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #69

hey. This is the 1000th post of this by the hillarians this year. we should issue a Doctor_J Nov 2015 #57

Do we need 10 threads of this every day? jfern Nov 2015 #71

Funny didnt see you say that when VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #76

Did you see Tweety tell Howard Dean to sayL riversedge Nov 2015 #81

Shows he hasnt made many friends.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #83

Damn sorry I missed that... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #84

maybe clips somewhere later. It was great. riversedge Nov 2015 #85

But...but...but... vorgan24 Nov 2015 #80

Wow I haven't seen this horseshit in day. Warren Stupidity Nov 2015 #87

Facepalm TSIAS Nov 2015 #88