2016 Postmortem

KittyWampus

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41. there is no correct framing for intervening when your opponent is crashing/burning.

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Bernie Sanders Blasts Media For Focusing On Ben Carson's Biography Instead Of His Policies [View all] Autumn Nov 2015 OP

This is the Sanders' "Dean Scream" moment. MohRokTah Nov 2015 #1

Bernie and ben on the same page when it boston bean Nov 2015 #4

I'd give this 100 ROFLs for hilarity except for the fact that Sanders is a candidate for the Dem nom MohRokTah Nov 2015 #6

Ben sounded like a paranoid lunatic ranting on and boston bean Nov 2015 #11

Nonsense Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2015 #35

It's funny; all of those HRC supporters that put their rapid rabid response to this... Ned_Devine Nov 2015 #54

LOL! Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2015 #71

It's like, are you kidding me? It reminds me of little kids using words like "cooties". Ned_Devine Nov 2015 #74

Right! Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2015 #76

Some folks don't recognize integrity when they see it AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #5

They also love deflection from scrutiny of their candidate. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #8

I love the hype that Bernie is blasting the media and defending Carson lies!!!!! Autumn Nov 2015 #18

IT's not integrity. It's idiocy. MohRokTah Nov 2015 #9

What's more important? Media pointing out that Carson is a liar or that Autumn Nov 2015 #13

The media pointing out his constant lying, of course. MohRokTah Nov 2015 #14

Yes, exposing GOP lies have always worked so well in the past. Autumn Nov 2015 #15

It works against Herman Cain. eom MohRokTah Nov 2015 #16

There is a big difference between exposing repug lies and... PosterChild Nov 2015 #85

Republicans elect people who LuvLoogie Nov 2015 #26

Not all republicans, just the ones who don't know the issues and watch media Autumn Nov 2015 #31

Idiocy? Is that why Bernie has been drawing out masses of listeners wherever he goes? Cal33 Nov 2015 #49

hype and hyperbole notadmblnd Nov 2015 #60

That's in the nature of sociopaths and psychopaths. They can't help behaving this way. Cal33 Nov 2015 #22

People w/o integrity loathe those who have it. senz Nov 2015 #53

Well said, senz! beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #56

Yes, pointing out that a republican candidate for President Autumn Nov 2015 #25

Of course Kalidurga Nov 2015 #32

So "fighting for the election" senz Nov 2015 #50

It's interesting how Hillary supporters cry foul when Bernie supporters post one of the many JDPriestly Nov 2015 #83

Da fuck? Warren Stupidity Nov 2015 #95

LOL boston bean Nov 2015 #2

Not exactly a new stance for him, he's always been about the issues: beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #3

after 3 times one hopes everyone will see the story. one_voice Nov 2015 #7

Simply a different view using actual quotes Autumn Nov 2015 #10

Bernies wrong on this one. zappaman Nov 2015 #12

ok. n/t beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #20

:) Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 #48

most pols would know enough to shut up when an opponent is self-immolating. KittyWampus Nov 2015 #39

What a detailed analysis! Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2015 #84

The Republicans have never focused on discussing issues and never will, because this Cal33 Nov 2015 #17

Thank you for posting the correct framing on this issue Recced... Fumesucker Nov 2015 #19

Yeah it does read different when actual quotes are used instead of... Autumn Nov 2015 #23

there is no correct framing for intervening when your opponent is crashing/burning. KittyWampus Nov 2015 #41

I would prefer Carson as the Republican nominee over Trump, Cruz or Rubio or even Jeb! Fumesucker Nov 2015 #47

This - seriously - is another reason I see Sanders as a risk in the General Election brooklynite Nov 2015 #21

You should see us as a risk artislife Nov 2015 #24

Talking about the issues, focusing on the issues. It sure as hell is a risk Autumn Nov 2015 #27

Best of luck to you...not seeing any sign of it so far. brooklynite Nov 2015 #28

Well the ground is so far away from the ivory towers. artislife Nov 2015 #30

Another instance Plucketeer Nov 2015 #79

Your "worry" is of course, totally earnest and objective Scootaloo Nov 2015 #86

My worry is very subjective, but incredibly earnest... brooklynite Nov 2015 #88

I'm always puzzled by this argument Scootaloo Nov 2015 #90

So he can doubt HRC's character, but Carson's blatant lies are OK???? Gloria Nov 2015 #29

I still can't find where Bernie said Carson's lies are okay. Autumn Nov 2015 #33

I can't either, this attempt at creating a new meme is pathetic. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #38

Yeah, Bernie talking about Carson's idiotic stand on issues is just like a "Dean Scream" Autumn Nov 2015 #40

It's like they think what the media did to Dean was a good thing. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #43

Evangelists will flock to Bernie? Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2015 #34

Well that's a new one. Haven't seen that either. n/t Autumn Nov 2015 #36

LOL! Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2015 #37

Nah Bernie telling the media they should be talking about Carson's dangerous ideas instead of Autumn Nov 2015 #51

Trump is right about Carson being pathological gwheezie Nov 2015 #42

I think Carson is their current court jester, his lies are so obvious and pathetic Autumn Nov 2015 #68

The simplest explanation is that Bernie Sanders Eric J in MN Nov 2015 #89

I see his point about the, let's say, inartfully described West Point & violent past. randome Nov 2015 #44

Re: Ben Carson's fake violent past Eric J in MN Nov 2015 #55

The Perceptions 301 class is easy to refute. Yale says they never had a class by that name or #. randome Nov 2015 #57

Carson can believe and talk about his pyramid theory, Perceptions 301 Autumn Nov 2015 #59

They matter to me, too. randome Nov 2015 #61

Now I'm terrified. I agree with what you posted Autumn Nov 2015 #63

Strange times, aren't they? randome Nov 2015 #66

Strange times indeed. Autumn Nov 2015 #67

Yay Bernie. Calling out the media again. azmom Nov 2015 #45

Good for Bernie, again refusing to fall for the distractions. Staying focused on the issues! THIS is sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #46

This is NOT a distraction. A person who has been caught in several lies, and continues to repeat still_one Nov 2015 #75

I'm for Sanders, but I respectfully disagree with him on this. Eric J in MN Nov 2015 #52

I agree Dem2 Nov 2015 #87

Because his ideas won't take him down and his lies just might. notadmblnd Nov 2015 #58

They lie about everything. Yet here they are the majority party. Autumn Nov 2015 #64

Here's a fair comparison retrowire Nov 2015 #62

BS is just pissed at the media for calling him on giftedgirl77 Nov 2015 #65

That is an entirely different issue. What Carson did was fabricate a bunch of lies that he used to still_one Nov 2015 #72

That's your opinion. giftedgirl77 Nov 2015 #80

of course it is only my opinion, nothing more. I understand your point though still_one Nov 2015 #92

They should be considering both. Sorry, but Bernie is really going over board on this, still_one Nov 2015 #69

He brings up a great point, why dosen't the media ever talk about "issues"? NorthCarolina Nov 2015 #70

Because it is about both. In fact, ignore an habitial liar, who even after he was caught in the lie still_one Nov 2015 #73

At the CNBC debate, Ben Carson was asked about his tax plan. Eric J in MN Nov 2015 #91

Bernie is 100 percent correct on this humbled_opinion Nov 2015 #77

Why not both - and why not focus on what gains the most traction? Drunken Irishman Nov 2015 #78

I think I will vote for Bernie Sanders.................. it's simple .......... turbinetree Nov 2015 #81

It's very simple isn't it? What we've been doing sure hasn't worked. Autumn Nov 2015 #82

Yep................................ turbinetree Nov 2015 #94

Kicked and recommended! Way to go, Bernie! Enthusiast Nov 2015 #93