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Hillary fans sure do love red herrings [View all] AZ Progressive Nov 2015 OP

He said it, it is his words, if a red herring then it belongs to Sanders Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #1

Is it a red herring? ish of the hammer Nov 2015 #21

I did not bring up the red herring, it was in the op. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #27

you commented and I responded to your comment- ish of the hammer Nov 2015 #92

I don't know, ask the person who posted the op. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #93

"red herrings" are distractions put out to change the subject of the discussion at hand- ish of the hammer Nov 2015 #95

Oh, Clinton supporters brought this up? Since some have denied what Sanders said may have a problem Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #96

He does own it. It's your problem if you think he was wrong. ish of the hammer Nov 2015 #97

I don't have a problem, I read the first time and I read the second time. I am entitled to my Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #98

of course you are! what is your opinion? ish of the hammer Nov 2015 #108

so I'll ask again- ish of the hammer Nov 2015 #111

Democrats who supported President Obama will find this issue to relevant Gothmog Nov 2015 #2

You're right! Scootaloo Nov 2015 #10

But we know he damn sure thought it was a good idea!! bravenak Nov 2015 #24

There's that "we" again. Scootaloo Nov 2015 #31

We is correct. Look at the polls. You think I talk so much here and don't talk to black folks bravenak Nov 2015 #32

And I remember how you told me that you had just "decided" what I thought about stuff Scootaloo Nov 2015 #33

The word is we. Keep thinking I was just bullshitting. bravenak Nov 2015 #34

You speak for yourself. The word for that is "I" Scootaloo Nov 2015 #35

We it is. Sorry. Just telling you like it is. It ain't just me. bravenak Nov 2015 #36

Ah yes, that phrase, "telling it like it is" Scootaloo Nov 2015 #37

Yeah Scoot. We. bravenak Nov 2015 #38

Scootaloo is right and I see you are still grave dancing. Live and Learn Nov 2015 #39

Scoot has no idea how black folks will vote. bravenak Nov 2015 #40

Neither do you. nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #42

Yes I do. Hillary. They will mostly go for Hillary.nt bravenak Nov 2015 #44

Mostly huh? We will see. Live and Learn Nov 2015 #46

We will see his polls continue to stay the same until his grassroots realizes he has a black problem bravenak Nov 2015 #47

So many things wrong with that assumption, I don't even know where to start. nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #52

Humans want respect. bravenak Nov 2015 #60

Never claimed I do. Scootaloo Nov 2015 #43

Most will go Hillary. Because of the reasons I stated.nt bravenak Nov 2015 #45

Maybe. I for one think it makes more sense to not take people for granted, though. Scootaloo Nov 2015 #48

Like Bernie did. bravenak Nov 2015 #49

No. As you are doing. Scootaloo Nov 2015 #51

When did Bernie do that? nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #53

He thought WE would come to HIM. Cause he marched.nt bravenak Nov 2015 #54

Well, damn him for marching then. What the hell was he thinking trying to support the rights of Live and Learn Nov 2015 #57

Why should we come to him? Why? Who is he that we should come to HIM? bravenak Nov 2015 #59

Why should 'you' go to her? Why? Who is the she that 'you' should go to HER? nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #76

We are already there. She supports Obama. We are the most reliable Obama voting demigraphic. bravenak Nov 2015 #78

She ran against Obama!!!! Live and Learn Nov 2015 #80

Not when he was already PRESIDENT! That is the difference. bravenak Nov 2015 #82

Because she knew she would lose. Live and Learn Nov 2015 #83

It doesn't matter whether she genuinely likes him. She supported him after he beat her. bravenak Nov 2015 #84

Loyalty and respect? You mean after he gave her the SOS position, right? Live and Learn Nov 2015 #87

Whose morals? We all have different standards of morality. bravenak Nov 2015 #88

Let's look at those reasons you gave. Live and Learn Nov 2015 #50

Okay, lets do. bravenak Nov 2015 #58

Okay here we go point by point again: Live and Learn Nov 2015 #64

Ha! bravenak Nov 2015 #65

Okay: Live and Learn Nov 2015 #67

You place Obama up there with MLK? Kentonio Nov 2015 #99

Damn straight. Many of us do. Are you shaming us? bravenak Nov 2015 #100

It feels more like you're shaming MLK quite frankly. Kentonio Nov 2015 #102

That is your opinion. I can see him however I want. Without your permission. Mind yours. Not mine. bravenak Nov 2015 #103

You can think whatever you like of course, it's a free country. Kentonio Nov 2015 #104

Do you think I need a lecture on Dr King from a white person on DU? bravenak Nov 2015 #105

If you think Obama is comparable, then yes it seems you do. Kentonio Nov 2015 #107

The question for us all and especially for African-Americans is "Are we better off now than we JDPriestly Nov 2015 #61

Why do you get to decidd what is ESPECIALLY important for African Americans? bravenak Nov 2015 #66

Same reason you think you get to decide, maybe? nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #68

I'm black. I can decide what is best for me.nt bravenak Nov 2015 #71

You finally got it, "I" is the correct pronoun to use in such context. Live and Learn Nov 2015 #72

We always decide for ourselves.nt bravenak Nov 2015 #74

'We' again? Could that suggest...hmm. Live and Learn Nov 2015 #75

My demographic.nt bravenak Nov 2015 #77

And what exactly is that demographic? Live and Learn Nov 2015 #79

I am a black High School drop-out. bravenak Nov 2015 #81

I am really sorry you have gone through so much. Live and Learn Nov 2015 #85

I always count myself lucky that things were not worse. bravenak Nov 2015 #86

Are you suggesting you are skeptical when it comes to folks who love you from afar? DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #90

Yes. Most just tell me directly. They do not hide in enclaves that are inaccessible to me.Nt bravenak Nov 2015 #91

They seem to think primary challengers means you lose jfern Nov 2015 #3

Kennedy enid602 Nov 2015 #23

Like Bernie fans love a strawman. JaneyVee Nov 2015 #4

Lol misterhighwasted Nov 2015 #7

It is obvious for wanting to vote for the status quo artislife Nov 2015 #18

They DO love them some strawmen. bravenak Nov 2015 #25

New term, 'strawmen'. Never heard it before and it seems a bit sexist. nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #55

If it was a drinking game I'd never be sober. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #5

Speaking of drinking melman Nov 2015 #70

Hate can do that to people too. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #73

The problem is the same one that seems to keep coming up. Renew Deal Nov 2015 #6

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Yes she did. Renew Deal Nov 2015 #12

No, we just don't pretend they are huge. HUGE!!! YUUUUUUUUUUGE!! jeff47 Nov 2015 #14

Thank you. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #22

Then why is the Democrat party allowing him to run on the Democratic ticket? nt artislife Nov 2015 #19

Clearly, he met the party's eligibility requirements. Beartracks Nov 2015 #26

No story, just foot stomping and gnashing of teeth. nt artislife Nov 2015 #29

Does it cut down a tree? HerbChestnut Nov 2015 #8

Ni! Beartracks Nov 2015 #28

Not just any tree Art_from_Ark Nov 2015 #30

Plenty of red herrings to go around Dem2 Nov 2015 #9

We have three great candidates. cwydro Nov 2015 #13

Well, I entered this primary happy to discuss issues. jeff47 Nov 2015 #15

Just don't respond to venom. cwydro Nov 2015 #16

You mean like Kerry not responding to swiftboating? jeff47 Nov 2015 #17

+1000000 one_voice Nov 2015 #20

well ya gotta use what ya got I guess azurnoir Nov 2015 #41

What a pretty fish in the OP senz Nov 2015 #56

I agree with Sanders Buzz cook Nov 2015 #62

Hard, but true observation. Betty Karlson Nov 2015 #63

Then why didn't Bernie do it? treestar Nov 2015 #69

How's that surge going? rock Nov 2015 #89

K/R UglyGreed Nov 2015 #94

I love pickled herring. yummy. riversedge Nov 2015 #101

w/ sour cream Dem2 Nov 2015 #106

Technically it's strawmen they love. LoveIsNow Nov 2015 #109

They got little else but red herrings. manufactured controversy, and unproven assertion disguised Bernblu Nov 2015 #110