2016 Postmortem

askew

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51. Well, Bernie is 20 years older than O'Malley.

Mon Nov 9, 2015, 02:30 PM

Nov 2015

But, both have held there views for a long time (except for Bernie and immigration which is a recent change for him). Neither gets credit over the other.

And these progressive policies weren't easy just because Maryland was a blue state. Repealing the death penalty was something that failed multiple times and finally succeeded due to O'Malley's relentlessness on the issue. Bernie has the right policy views but doesn't have a lot to show for it even when Dems controlled Congress and the WH. That says something to me.

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If you truly care about the issues, you'll vote for Bernie. [View all] pinebox Nov 2015 OP

Depends on the issues Blue_Adept Nov 2015 #1

Which issues exactly? pinebox Nov 2015 #6

But with Bernie, there's a whole other level of uncertainty Blue_Adept Nov 2015 #13

Ok pinebox Nov 2015 #19

No more wars, we can start there. tecelote Nov 2015 #110

My level of certainty about Hillary is exactly why I will not vote for her in the primary. merrily Nov 2015 #63

very well said. n/t retrowire Nov 2015 #88

Thanks! merrily Nov 2015 #89

...^ that 840high Nov 2015 #108

So pick Hill. Old Codger Nov 2015 #100

No, thank you. merrily Nov 2015 #125

Only a person who has not been listening to Bernie would ask what kind of administration he will JDPriestly Nov 2015 #117

Bernie could put Bozo the Clown in as DNC Chair, and it would still be an improvement over DWS 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #15

You're not exaggerating. Clown College is nothing to laugh at. merrily Nov 2015 #56

Think about it from the other point of view. Fawke Em Nov 2015 #23

Those are tactics, manuevers, methods. They're not issues. Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 #84

Forgot to mention: His coattails will exist Hillary's will be non-existent. merrily Nov 2015 #92

I cannot support Sanders: I really care about issues I am voting for Hillary lewebley3 Nov 2015 #97

I want Bernie to pick the cabinet and the Supreme Court justices. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #101

Ironically, the Citizens' United case was over a negative film about Hillary. merrily Nov 2015 #127

I do. I know it won't have any Monsanto CEOs eg. Or old Republican war monger appointees. I imagine sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #132

K&R! marym625 Nov 2015 #2

I believe that if you truly care about the issues, you will vote for Hillary. MohRokTah Nov 2015 #3

How do you justify continued warfare? tecelote Nov 2015 #114

I sincerely believe that Hillary Clinton has the better policy position on any potential warfare... MohRokTah Nov 2015 #123

I respect that and disagree. tecelote Nov 2015 #130

On the issues that matter to me, O'Malley is better than Sanders. askew Nov 2015 #4

I like O'Malley pinebox Nov 2015 #7

It isn't about comparing state with federal. askew Nov 2015 #30

It actually is pinebox Nov 2015 #31

I agree. O'Malley is a great fit for everything that matters to me. Koinos Nov 2015 #8

Add veterans issues to that as well. NuclearDem Nov 2015 #46

His plan is incredibly detailed. askew Nov 2015 #57

Sanders and Clinton both have plans on their websites. NuclearDem Nov 2015 #62

Maybe maybe not Old Codger Nov 2015 #104

I've been following O'Malley for years and he is better on the issues I outlined. askew Nov 2015 #129

I'm new here and ... Jharr827 Nov 2015 #5

Sure I can answer that and welcometo DU! pinebox Nov 2015 #11

Awesome thank you Jharr827 Nov 2015 #17

It is pinebox Nov 2015 #20

Thank you Jharr827 Nov 2015 #24

He has explained often how they will be paid for. merrily Nov 2015 #72

If you are still deciding ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #98

Yes Jharr827 Nov 2015 #121

Or do have help Marty McGraw Nov 2015 #122

Thanks Jharr827 Nov 2015 #135

There is a world of difference between the two candidate. Autumn Nov 2015 #9

I'm leaning that way Jharr827 Nov 2015 #21

Welcome to DU. There is a lot of information on Bernie here in our group. Autumn Nov 2015 #32

K&R! n/t Catherina Nov 2015 #10

OH thank you kind person jehop61 Nov 2015 #12

You're quite welcome pinebox Nov 2015 #22

Uhm... kenfrequed Nov 2015 #47

Can you tell us why you would vote for Hillary. Dawgs Nov 2015 #59

I'm a realist jehop61 Nov 2015 #102

Please make our killing of innocent people in the name of profit more important. tecelote Nov 2015 #116

I agree jehop61 Nov 2015 #126

"The republicans will be a disaster in foreign affairs." tecelote Nov 2015 #128

Do you think Hillary has a better chance of winning than Bernie? Dawgs Nov 2015 #124

No, O'Malley has it on the issues, elleng Nov 2015 #14

I like him pinebox Nov 2015 #26

O'Malley's platforms expand upon what he did as Governor/Mayor. askew Nov 2015 #34

What you have to remember though pinebox Nov 2015 #39

Well, Bernie is 20 years older than O'Malley. askew Nov 2015 #51

Yep, O'Malley is the one with the detailed plans. askew Nov 2015 #35

Sanders has gotten a ton done too pinebox Nov 2015 #42

This message was self-deleted by its author Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 #85

^^^^this^^^^ one_voice Nov 2015 #133

GREAT to hear, one_voice, elleng Nov 2015 #136

Big K&R nt 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #16

I truly care about the issues. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #18

How do you think pinebox Nov 2015 #25

"Hillary will advance any issue should she be elected, be honest." NCTraveler Nov 2015 #27

Well explain then pinebox Nov 2015 #29

Just so we are clear, because this is pure gold, this is one of the "issues?" nt. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #33

What I asked is how you think Hillary will get anything done pinebox Nov 2015 #40

Please read your own post again. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #41

I did but read this please pinebox Nov 2015 #43

You believe this rw nut job is a campaign "issue?" This is getting to be too much. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #45

Nice bandwagon kenfrequed Nov 2015 #52

John Lewis rides on no bandwagon. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #61

Uh... kenfrequed Nov 2015 #67

"Argue on the issues and on policy. In both cases Bernie is the superior pick." NCTraveler Nov 2015 #71

You brought up John Lewis kenfrequed Nov 2015 #75

Issues are important to you and immediately after, you snidely bring up Vera Wang and outfits? Sheepshank Nov 2015 #78

Right kenfrequed Nov 2015 #81

So John Lewis is just like a dress designer and has no standing on issues? Got it. Sheepshank Nov 2015 #87

Uhm... kenfrequed Nov 2015 #90

Forget it, you obviously can't answer my question. pinebox Nov 2015 #53

It was a direct answer to your question. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #64

You're spinning this way to hard dude pinebox Nov 2015 #70

Pinebox - Vince Foster? Important issue. Networking? What is that. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #73

You are still missing the point pinebox Nov 2015 #93

Thanks for the super fucking obnoxious post. My phone loved Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 #86

You are very welcome. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #91

Can you trim your post please pinebox Nov 2015 #94

It is an extremely important list of endorsements and is exactly the info you wanted. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #96

Just trim it pinebox Nov 2015 #103

You do understand how small that post is in the big scheme of things? NCTraveler Nov 2015 #109

. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #137

Endorsers, a bunch of whom, actually write legislation. Do you think that might be ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #115

Perfect response. Now drop the mic and walk slowly off the stage ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #111

Hmmmmm at best a few thousand votes. Now count the number of libs that willvotesdem Nov 2015 #131

Strongly disagree. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #134

This subthread is just an attempt to divert from your excellent OP. kristopher Nov 2015 #113

Maybe we should just let the GOPU choose our nominee DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #38

They now are acting as if they didn't post that. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #44

Res ipsa loquitur DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #49

I couldn't make this up. They have now gone to Vince Foster as a serious issue. nt. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #74

It is what it is... DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #76

I'm sorry kenfrequed Nov 2015 #48

Wednesday? NCTraveler Nov 2015 #50

What about it? kenfrequed Nov 2015 #55

Kickin' Faux pas Nov 2015 #28

No comparison ibegurpard Nov 2015 #36

The Metric System is my issue nt firebrand80 Nov 2015 #37

Hair is my single issue. Hence, Feel the Bern is my first choice and Feel the Chafe is my second. merrily Nov 2015 #66

Bernie tackles the BIG issues. senz Nov 2015 #77

Let's not harrangue them too much HassleCat Nov 2015 #54

"Good enough" for millions to still rely on Govt assistance for food pinebox Nov 2015 #60

Under a Sanders presidency, their situations would change. senz Nov 2015 #79

I will vote for the candidate most qualified, I think Clinton is most qualified out of all Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #58

More than O'Malley? Dawgs Nov 2015 #65

Yes, he does not have her foreign affairs experience. He would be my second choice. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #68

ok. n/t zappaman Nov 2015 #69

thing is, it's not JUST the fact that he's running to support the issues, instead of MisterP Nov 2015 #80

How is this in any way appropriate? Bleacher Creature Nov 2015 #82

K&R..... daleanime Nov 2015 #83

I truly care about the issues that I judge of importance to me, and ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #95

Which issues are those? pinebox Nov 2015 #105

Why? So you can tell me the Good News about Sanders? No! Thanks ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #118

Ok so you don't want to discuss policies pinebox Nov 2015 #119

No ... I don't need you telling me that Bernie is better on policy than O'Malley ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #120

That is an awful lot or words to say no true Scot would vote mythology Nov 2015 #99

Sure BUT pinebox Nov 2015 #106

rightwingers don't have a monopoly on voting against their own self-interests stupidicus Nov 2015 #107

Thank you! pinebox Nov 2015 #112

If you care whether a Democrat is our next MineralMan Nov 2015 #138