2016 Postmortem

DemocratSinceBirth

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76. It is what it is...

Mon Nov 9, 2015, 02:57 PM

Nov 2015

I am beyond getting upset because I see the light at the end of the tunnel and it ain't a train. It's fresh air and victory.

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If you truly care about the issues, you'll vote for Bernie. [View all] pinebox Nov 2015 OP

Depends on the issues Blue_Adept Nov 2015 #1

Which issues exactly? pinebox Nov 2015 #6

But with Bernie, there's a whole other level of uncertainty Blue_Adept Nov 2015 #13

Ok pinebox Nov 2015 #19

No more wars, we can start there. tecelote Nov 2015 #110

My level of certainty about Hillary is exactly why I will not vote for her in the primary. merrily Nov 2015 #63

very well said. n/t retrowire Nov 2015 #88

Thanks! merrily Nov 2015 #89

...^ that 840high Nov 2015 #108

So pick Hill. Old Codger Nov 2015 #100

No, thank you. merrily Nov 2015 #125

Only a person who has not been listening to Bernie would ask what kind of administration he will JDPriestly Nov 2015 #117

Bernie could put Bozo the Clown in as DNC Chair, and it would still be an improvement over DWS 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #15

You're not exaggerating. Clown College is nothing to laugh at. merrily Nov 2015 #56

Think about it from the other point of view. Fawke Em Nov 2015 #23

Those are tactics, manuevers, methods. They're not issues. Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 #84

Forgot to mention: His coattails will exist Hillary's will be non-existent. merrily Nov 2015 #92

I cannot support Sanders: I really care about issues I am voting for Hillary lewebley3 Nov 2015 #97

I want Bernie to pick the cabinet and the Supreme Court justices. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #101

Ironically, the Citizens' United case was over a negative film about Hillary. merrily Nov 2015 #127

I do. I know it won't have any Monsanto CEOs eg. Or old Republican war monger appointees. I imagine sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #132

K&R! marym625 Nov 2015 #2

I believe that if you truly care about the issues, you will vote for Hillary. MohRokTah Nov 2015 #3

How do you justify continued warfare? tecelote Nov 2015 #114

I sincerely believe that Hillary Clinton has the better policy position on any potential warfare... MohRokTah Nov 2015 #123

I respect that and disagree. tecelote Nov 2015 #130

On the issues that matter to me, O'Malley is better than Sanders. askew Nov 2015 #4

I like O'Malley pinebox Nov 2015 #7

It isn't about comparing state with federal. askew Nov 2015 #30

It actually is pinebox Nov 2015 #31

I agree. O'Malley is a great fit for everything that matters to me. Koinos Nov 2015 #8

Add veterans issues to that as well. NuclearDem Nov 2015 #46

His plan is incredibly detailed. askew Nov 2015 #57

Sanders and Clinton both have plans on their websites. NuclearDem Nov 2015 #62

Maybe maybe not Old Codger Nov 2015 #104

I've been following O'Malley for years and he is better on the issues I outlined. askew Nov 2015 #129

I'm new here and ... Jharr827 Nov 2015 #5

Sure I can answer that and welcometo DU! pinebox Nov 2015 #11

Awesome thank you Jharr827 Nov 2015 #17

It is pinebox Nov 2015 #20

Thank you Jharr827 Nov 2015 #24

He has explained often how they will be paid for. merrily Nov 2015 #72

If you are still deciding ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #98

Yes Jharr827 Nov 2015 #121

Or do have help Marty McGraw Nov 2015 #122

Thanks Jharr827 Nov 2015 #135

There is a world of difference between the two candidate. Autumn Nov 2015 #9

I'm leaning that way Jharr827 Nov 2015 #21

Welcome to DU. There is a lot of information on Bernie here in our group. Autumn Nov 2015 #32

K&R! n/t Catherina Nov 2015 #10

OH thank you kind person jehop61 Nov 2015 #12

You're quite welcome pinebox Nov 2015 #22

Uhm... kenfrequed Nov 2015 #47

Can you tell us why you would vote for Hillary. Dawgs Nov 2015 #59

I'm a realist jehop61 Nov 2015 #102

Please make our killing of innocent people in the name of profit more important. tecelote Nov 2015 #116

I agree jehop61 Nov 2015 #126

"The republicans will be a disaster in foreign affairs." tecelote Nov 2015 #128

Do you think Hillary has a better chance of winning than Bernie? Dawgs Nov 2015 #124

No, O'Malley has it on the issues, elleng Nov 2015 #14

I like him pinebox Nov 2015 #26

O'Malley's platforms expand upon what he did as Governor/Mayor. askew Nov 2015 #34

What you have to remember though pinebox Nov 2015 #39

Well, Bernie is 20 years older than O'Malley. askew Nov 2015 #51

Yep, O'Malley is the one with the detailed plans. askew Nov 2015 #35

Sanders has gotten a ton done too pinebox Nov 2015 #42

This message was self-deleted by its author Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 #85

^^^^this^^^^ one_voice Nov 2015 #133

GREAT to hear, one_voice, elleng Nov 2015 #136

Big K&R nt 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #16

I truly care about the issues. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #18

How do you think pinebox Nov 2015 #25

"Hillary will advance any issue should she be elected, be honest." NCTraveler Nov 2015 #27

Well explain then pinebox Nov 2015 #29

Just so we are clear, because this is pure gold, this is one of the "issues?" nt. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #33

What I asked is how you think Hillary will get anything done pinebox Nov 2015 #40

Please read your own post again. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #41

I did but read this please pinebox Nov 2015 #43

You believe this rw nut job is a campaign "issue?" This is getting to be too much. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #45

Nice bandwagon kenfrequed Nov 2015 #52

John Lewis rides on no bandwagon. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #61

Uh... kenfrequed Nov 2015 #67

"Argue on the issues and on policy. In both cases Bernie is the superior pick." NCTraveler Nov 2015 #71

You brought up John Lewis kenfrequed Nov 2015 #75

Issues are important to you and immediately after, you snidely bring up Vera Wang and outfits? Sheepshank Nov 2015 #78

Right kenfrequed Nov 2015 #81

So John Lewis is just like a dress designer and has no standing on issues? Got it. Sheepshank Nov 2015 #87

Uhm... kenfrequed Nov 2015 #90

Forget it, you obviously can't answer my question. pinebox Nov 2015 #53

It was a direct answer to your question. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #64

You're spinning this way to hard dude pinebox Nov 2015 #70

Pinebox - Vince Foster? Important issue. Networking? What is that. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #73

You are still missing the point pinebox Nov 2015 #93

Thanks for the super fucking obnoxious post. My phone loved Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 #86

You are very welcome. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #91

Can you trim your post please pinebox Nov 2015 #94

It is an extremely important list of endorsements and is exactly the info you wanted. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #96

Just trim it pinebox Nov 2015 #103

You do understand how small that post is in the big scheme of things? NCTraveler Nov 2015 #109

. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #137

Endorsers, a bunch of whom, actually write legislation. Do you think that might be ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #115

Perfect response. Now drop the mic and walk slowly off the stage ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #111

Hmmmmm at best a few thousand votes. Now count the number of libs that willvotesdem Nov 2015 #131

Strongly disagree. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #134

This subthread is just an attempt to divert from your excellent OP. kristopher Nov 2015 #113

Maybe we should just let the GOPU choose our nominee DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #38

They now are acting as if they didn't post that. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #44

Res ipsa loquitur DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #49

I couldn't make this up. They have now gone to Vince Foster as a serious issue. nt. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #74

It is what it is... DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #76

I'm sorry kenfrequed Nov 2015 #48

Wednesday? NCTraveler Nov 2015 #50

What about it? kenfrequed Nov 2015 #55

Kickin' Faux pas Nov 2015 #28

No comparison ibegurpard Nov 2015 #36

The Metric System is my issue nt firebrand80 Nov 2015 #37

Hair is my single issue. Hence, Feel the Bern is my first choice and Feel the Chafe is my second. merrily Nov 2015 #66

Bernie tackles the BIG issues. senz Nov 2015 #77

Let's not harrangue them too much HassleCat Nov 2015 #54

"Good enough" for millions to still rely on Govt assistance for food pinebox Nov 2015 #60

Under a Sanders presidency, their situations would change. senz Nov 2015 #79

I will vote for the candidate most qualified, I think Clinton is most qualified out of all Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #58

More than O'Malley? Dawgs Nov 2015 #65

Yes, he does not have her foreign affairs experience. He would be my second choice. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #68

ok. n/t zappaman Nov 2015 #69

thing is, it's not JUST the fact that he's running to support the issues, instead of MisterP Nov 2015 #80

How is this in any way appropriate? Bleacher Creature Nov 2015 #82

K&R..... daleanime Nov 2015 #83

I truly care about the issues that I judge of importance to me, and ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #95

Which issues are those? pinebox Nov 2015 #105

Why? So you can tell me the Good News about Sanders? No! Thanks ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #118

Ok so you don't want to discuss policies pinebox Nov 2015 #119

No ... I don't need you telling me that Bernie is better on policy than O'Malley ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #120

That is an awful lot or words to say no true Scot would vote mythology Nov 2015 #99

Sure BUT pinebox Nov 2015 #106

rightwingers don't have a monopoly on voting against their own self-interests stupidicus Nov 2015 #107

Thank you! pinebox Nov 2015 #112

If you care whether a Democrat is our next MineralMan Nov 2015 #138