2016 Postmortem

JDPriestly

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16. And Hillary takes money from almost any corporate or Wall Street donor.

Mon Nov 9, 2015, 08:40 PM

Nov 2015

If Hillary wins the nomination, it will be interpreted to mean that a candidate cannot win by limiting donations to amounts that ordinary people can afford.

If Hillary wins, it will strengthen the argument that we should continue to operate under the Citizens United campaign funding rules.

That is why I say that a vote for Hillary is a vote for Citizens United.

We voters make choices, and our choices are interpreted as carrying a message.

A vote for Hillary will be interpreted as meaning that we voters do not mind the status quo Citizne United campaign funding policy at all.

In the future, as unions dwindle in size and strength, corporations will determine the policies and direction of our country more and more. I hope that all Democrats will consider this when deciding who to vote for.

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A vote for Hillary is a vote FOR Citizens United. [View all] JDPriestly Nov 2015 OP

Sanders supporters will say anything. Renew Deal Nov 2015 #1

And Hillary takes money from almost any corporate or Wall Street donor. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #16

Except ironically, Hillary's campaign is proving CU isn't even needed... JaneyVee Nov 2015 #39

BULLSHIT REASONING AllTooEasy Nov 2015 #41

If Hillary doesn't need that money and isn't really using it, she should just give it back. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #50

Seriously, if she wins, what choice will we have? Dark money is how elections Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 #56

Sander's throughout his life has walked the walk Joe Turner Nov 2015 #33

I thought you said "walked on water" Renew Deal Nov 2015 #44

Sorry that you dislike that he is an honest broker. Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 #61

Fail. Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2015 #2

I know the history of Citizens United quite well. Thank you. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #17

I hope you didn't hurt yourself... Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2015 #64

Not helpful at all Dem2 Nov 2015 #3

What a crock of S**t Persondem Nov 2015 #4

Here is why I posted what I did. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #19

Just repeated that at town hall in NH. Agschmid Nov 2015 #24

" O K" DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #5

I thought a vote for Hillary was a vote for ending all life on the planet, which is it? randys1 Nov 2015 #6

It's a vote to continue the rule of Citizens United. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #21

So ignore the grand canyon size differences on the social issues and not vote? randys1 Nov 2015 #98

Ok NCTraveler Nov 2015 #7

Got some evidence to support this proclamation? Or did you pull it out of your Lil Missy Nov 2015 #8

Hillary's campaign is running on a lot of corporate gas. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #10

Unqualified analysis like this (as in, no evidence at all) explains why Lil Missy Nov 2015 #12

Here is my analysis: JDPriestly Nov 2015 #22

Flailing attack Statements like these help explain why Sanders is losing. nt stevenleser Nov 2015 #9

loser enid602 Nov 2015 #11

The people who look like losers on this board are Fawke Em Nov 2015 #20

Probably because that long-term DUer is no longer a DUer. JTFrog Nov 2015 #34

It is a violent image, and it's clearly out of spite Ned_Devine Nov 2015 #57

Here is my reasoning: JDPriestly Nov 2015 #23

The flaw in your reasoning is bleedingly obvious jberryhill Nov 2015 #78

Hmm... bvf Nov 2015 #25

a vote for media and communications consolidation reddread Nov 2015 #13

Thank you. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #32

"I'd like to have an argument, please." NurseJackie Nov 2015 #14

Thank you. Here it is: JDPriestly Nov 2015 #28

No it isn't. You're wrong. NurseJackie Nov 2015 #37

And that's it? SoapBox Nov 2015 #55

No you're not. NurseJackie Nov 2015 #60

GOD, I LOVE it retrowire Nov 2015 #66

Just think about it. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #68

You're wrong. NurseJackie Nov 2015 #70

Why? What do you think is wrong in my reasoning? JDPriestly Nov 2015 #72

I have answered your question. NurseJackie Nov 2015 #76

In which post. I missed the reasoning behind your rejection of my idea. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #84

No you didn't. NurseJackie Nov 2015 #97

You have seen the Monty Python Argument sketch, right? FiveGoodMen Nov 2015 #103

You do know Citizens United ... yallerdawg Nov 2015 #15

How dare you bring facts into this discussion. iandhr Nov 2015 #18

Ah, but you bring sense to the discussion. Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #26

Yes. I am quite aware of that. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #29

Your reasoning has no logic at all iandhr Nov 2015 #45

What is the logic in voting FOR the Citizens United candidate. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #71

She is not a citizens united candidate. iandhr Nov 2015 #73

She is running on corporate money. That makes her a Citizens United candidate. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #85

So are you suggesting people be one issue voters and not vote for Hillary underthematrix Nov 2015 #51

Yes. There is no more important issue. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #82

I do not get it. Rose Siding Nov 2015 #81

If by "all the tools in the box" you mean taking large donations from the very wealthy and JDPriestly Nov 2015 #86

Rather than cleaning up her own pigpen she decided to roll in the muck. Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 #63

Citizens United will only go away with new SCOTUS MineralMan Nov 2015 #27

And there it is. yallerdawg Nov 2015 #30

Actuallly, that is not how our system works. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #31

Watch and see. MineralMan Nov 2015 #36

Same as they are now. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #87

Hillary has stated several times over... she will work on a constitutional amendment Sheepshank Nov 2015 #49

My Neighbor swears he will give up drinking, then swills a bottle of vodka Dragonfli Nov 2015 #62

Yup. Agschmid Nov 2015 #35

She's not going to do shit about it ibegurpard Nov 2015 #38

AND....she needs Democrats to want to do anything... Gloria Nov 2015 #58

Nominating Sanders and not Hillary will send a message to people in Congress that the people JDPriestly Nov 2015 #88

Messages from the people Gloria Nov 2015 #102

In order to change what's wrong with the system, one must oasis Nov 2015 #40

What's she waiting for? NOW is the time to do it. Bernie IS doing it, see that's the difference. sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #46

No way Hillary tangles with the GOP with one hand tied behind her back. oasis Nov 2015 #47

LOL SoapBox Nov 2015 #59

Don't belive me huh? I guess we'll just have to wait and see. oasis Nov 2015 #69

LOL abelenkpe Nov 2015 #65

You mean like Obama took on the banks by appointing bankers to the top financial posts. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #89

let's not be naive i-should- be-working Nov 2015 #42

Oooh- It's that scary 3rd way cabal secretly controlling the government redstateblues Nov 2015 #75

There's no doubt about that! sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #43

big fat steaming pile Sheepshank Nov 2015 #48

What doesn't make sense to say Clinton is going to keep CU since she has a suit filed against CU. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #52

"it is going to grow" Babel_17 Nov 2015 #53

Ok, if Sanders go the nomination would he be holding bake sales Gloria Nov 2015 #54

Get real? pinebox Nov 2015 #100

Here's the BIGGEST reason of all for voting for Bernie . . . and most people still don't realize it DrBulldog Nov 2015 #67

The presidency isn't some kind of dictatorship moobu2 Nov 2015 #74

The way to end Citizens United and the pollution of big money donors in politics is to send the JDPriestly Nov 2015 #90

Bull... revmclaren Nov 2015 #77

My post is not Hillary hate. It is a strategy to get rid of Citizens United. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #91

JD, you know you hit the nail on the head when... antigop Nov 2015 #79

Yes. I realize it will take a while to sink in, but they will or at least some of them will get it JDPriestly Nov 2015 #92

Thanks, JD. I really appreciate your posts. nt antigop Nov 2015 #96

The OP is simply wrong and ignores the fact that Sanders is not viable in a general election Gothmog Nov 2015 #80

Lots of unfounded assumptions in that post. Lots of wishful thinking. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #93

Again, I live in the real world and in the real world you do not vote for candidates who cannot win Gothmog Nov 2015 #94

She takes full advantage of the ruling AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #83

Not to mention the TTIP. nt raouldukelives Nov 2015 #95

Yes, and it makes it all the more strange when she trolls the student population and says things... MrMickeysMom Nov 2015 #99

Nonsense. Electing a Democrat is our only hope with the Supreme Court. yardwork Nov 2015 #101