2016 Postmortem

MineralMan

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24. About 131 million people voted in 2008.

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 03:37 PM

Nov 2015

That was a pretty good year for turnout. So, how many more than that do you think will turn out in 2016 if Bernie Sanders is the Democratic nominee?

How many will be dedicated enough to this "revolution" to vote when they hadn't bothered to in the past, and what percentage of the total vote will they make up?

Elections are a numbers game. Count the voters. Obama won fairly handily, but not in a landslide, really. We know how many people have donated to the Sanders campaign, about 750,000. They'd probably all turn out, I'd think. But thats just 0.5% of the total vote from 2008. Not enough to swing an election, really. Even if 10 times that many (7.5 million) turned out it would only be 5% of the vote.

See, I'm not seeing the numbers there, really. Regardless of who is the Democratic nominee, I'll be there voting for the Democrat, so my vote doesn't count as an added vote. I'll gladly vote for Bernie if he is the nominee.

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What sort of revolution is it when [View all] MineralMan Nov 2015 OP

Why do you care? Gregorian Nov 2015 #1

Why do you ask? MineralMan Nov 2015 #5

Because it seemed like trivializing something very important. Gregorian Nov 2015 #23

You think there will be blood spilled in this campaign. MineralMan Nov 2015 #32

How is voting not a revolution? Gregorian Nov 2015 #47

Voting is an orderly process of selecting leaders. MineralMan Nov 2015 #51

You either do understand, but are being snarky, or you really don't get it. Ned_Devine Nov 2015 #60

No. He represents a horizontal shift and only in the way MineralMan Nov 2015 #63

Then I guess you're just being a snarky dick. It's pretty obvious that revolution is hyperbolic... Ned_Devine Nov 2015 #68

The best you can do is call me names? MineralMan Nov 2015 #73

I'm calling it like it is. You're being snarky in a dickish way. Almost bully-ish Ned_Devine Nov 2015 #74

Considering how pathetic voter turnout usually is, yes, it's revolutionary to have high turnout. arcane1 Nov 2015 #2

Average voter turnout during Presidential election years is somewhere around 60%, and that might be HerbChestnut Nov 2015 #3

I'm betting it will be the same in 2016. MineralMan Nov 2015 #8

If Hillary wins the nomination, you're probably right. beerandjesus Nov 2015 #37

It would have been Revolutionary if a Democratic Socialist could have gotten elected.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #55

Voting against the status quo and try and counter voting impediments. mmonk Nov 2015 #4

Yes, candidates have absolutely no positions. jeff47 Nov 2015 #6

Start With the Fact The River Nov 2015 #7

That's not a fact. It's a speculation. MineralMan Nov 2015 #11

I didn't say Revolution The River Nov 2015 #38

K & R. misterhighwasted Nov 2015 #41

Exactly. When I look back on Obama's presidency, MineralMan Nov 2015 #45

....x10+ 840high Nov 2015 #78

So what? Do you have a point? Comrade Grumpy Nov 2015 #9

Apparently not one you see. MineralMan Nov 2015 #12

Interesting. NurseJackie Nov 2015 #10

I suppose using the word "revolution" as part of the MineralMan Nov 2015 #15

You just said this over here. polly7 Nov 2015 #13

Why yes, I did. MineralMan Nov 2015 #16

Well 'others' have HOPE and are willing to work and sacrifice for changing all the polly7 Nov 2015 #21

I hope you have good luck with that. MineralMan Nov 2015 #65

I'd have to disagree with the characterization that he's "ho-humming" it. NurseJackie Nov 2015 #40

Yes, he's ho-humming it. Feel sad for him. nt. polly7 Nov 2015 #43

Well who doesn't like to put every thought into an OP? Capt. Obvious Nov 2015 #50

Yeah, that I don't understand. nt. polly7 Nov 2015 #53

I mean, someone might not have seen the post in the original thread Capt. Obvious Nov 2015 #54

Ok, gotcha. polly7 Nov 2015 #56

Iceland understands. Maybe someday you will too.... think Nov 2015 #14

Oh, dear. MineralMan Nov 2015 #18

Of course not. Here Hillary gives speeches to banks that break laws and rakes in millions think Nov 2015 #19

I think you missed my point, there. MineralMan Nov 2015 #48

Let's see. Iceland can deal with bank crimes because it's a small country. Eric Holder couldn't do think Nov 2015 #58

And it sure doesn't help when the Govt allows laws to be changed for felony banks think Nov 2015 #64

Many don't understand the union of states and mess it can appear to create. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #22

And some ignore Wall Street entanglements and make condescending remarks while ignoring the obvious think Nov 2015 #25

Correct. Some will. nt. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #28

You're doing a great job of it. think Nov 2015 #31

I appreciate the compliment. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #35

Thanks for your kind words also think Nov 2015 #44

The Revolutionary act is not to vote AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #17

About 131 million people voted in 2008. MineralMan Nov 2015 #24

The 'revolution' is not about turnout AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #30

Several people in this thread have said that high turnout MineralMan Nov 2015 #34

You say it in your OP AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #52

Revolution is a rallying cry, not a revolution. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #20

Exactly. There's no revolution. MineralMan Nov 2015 #27

What is really sad is they are the same exact ones ignoring the true revolution going on. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #33

I remember the amazing turnout in 2008, when the AA community MineralMan Nov 2015 #42

What revolution? leftofcool Nov 2015 #26

That's what I'm trying to figure out. MineralMan Nov 2015 #29

Lack of vision, or perfectly happy with the status quo? nt. polly7 Nov 2015 #39

The 60's. Now that was a "real" revolution. leftofcool Nov 2015 #57

A voter's revolution? Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #36

let me know if you find any lint in your navel ibegurpard Nov 2015 #46

Whoosh! whatchamacallit Nov 2015 #49

Glad to hear the Reagan Revolution never happened. ieoeja Nov 2015 #59

+100000!!! n/t ljm2002 Nov 2015 #71

Depends on what you mean by revolution. aikoaiko Nov 2015 #61

Are you some sort of agent provocateur? tularetom Nov 2015 #62

No. I'm a Democrat who wants a Democrat in the MineralMan Nov 2015 #66

I Wonder The Same Thing The River Nov 2015 #69

Bernie talks about a "political revolution"... ljm2002 Nov 2015 #67

The American elections have been called revolutions Buzz cook Nov 2015 #70

Since you are not part of it PowerToThePeople Nov 2015 #72

It is the kind of revolution where everyone gets Warren Stupidity Nov 2015 #75

Voting can indeed be a revolutionary act. It depends on who you vote for. Bonobo Nov 2015 #76

I think Bernie has made it clear that no president can accomplish what he wants to do. Vattel Nov 2015 #77

Bernie's election would be only the first step. Ron Green Nov 2015 #79

I asked the same question a while ago Renew Deal Nov 2015 #80