2016 Postmortem

still_one

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128. With all the threads I have seen today that only Bernie can win against the republicans,

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 07:16 PM

Nov 2015

not Hillary, they really believe that when the republicans start throwing around Bernie supported Daniel Ortega, and looked favorably upon Fidel Castro in the 80's that will go over well in the South, I wonder who they are fooling

As many folks here on DU are set in there ways, are rarely are able to be persuaded to change their set preconceived views, right or wrong, the same things holds here, and while they may call it red baiting or McCarthy like tactics, it will be extremely hard to fight that for whatever reason, so for those that are so convinced that Hillary can't win the general election, I would like someone to explained to me how Bernie would when the red baiting starts flowing 24/7, which it would if he became the nominee

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This is exactly the image that a Democratic Socialist is trying to convey: [View all] Buzz Clik Nov 2015 OP

fortunately... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #1

A socialist Democrat is the same thing as a Democratic Socialist AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #20

No sir...it is most assuredly NOT... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #24

They aren't socialists AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #29

I JUST gave you the DEFINITION!!!! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #30

You made up the so called definition AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #32

Made it UP??? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #35

"It boils down to...Democratic Socialists...DO NOT approve of ANY Capitalism" AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #41

Nope...they do not believe in private ownership of production..... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #43

You are describing Communism AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #45

No I am not....that would be GOVERNMENT ownership of the means of production... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #47

"they do not believe in private ownership of production" AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #51

Not my words.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #53

So the factories are 'collectives'? AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #56

Not what I said is it? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #81

"NO private ownership....they are Collectives....owned by the people" AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #82

right VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #84

"No Private Ownership" AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #93

right...of the means of Production.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #95

That's what I have been saying AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #96

No it isn't....you keep calling it RED baiting VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #98

When you say means of production is collective AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #99

No it is NOT VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #102

Can you please turn off that blinking sign. pangaia Nov 2015 #119

Nothing spinning at all.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #46

And there is nothing RED about it...I know the difference from Communism... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #40

"They do not believe in private ownership of production" AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #48

RIGHT....do YOU know what that means? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #49

Yes, AKA communism AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #52

NOOOO... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #54

the Difference... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #55

In a communist country the means of production is owned collectively AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #57

I am not pulling this out of my ass....these are the Defintions VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #58

You need to take a basic poly sci class AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #59

I just gave you one... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #64

Democratic Socialism: heavily regulated Capitalism and Socialism AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #67

No it isn't....that is Socialist Democracy... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #74

You are now officially arguing with yourself! AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #76

Nope...still schooling you... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #79

and VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #77

and this VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #71

It is my understanding that Marx Buzz cook Nov 2015 #122

We were not discussing Marxism VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #123

Yes, I understand Buzz cook Nov 2015 #133

It's an insult to the revolutionaries of the past. upaloopa Nov 2015 #2

If we are to be convinced that Bernie is truly electable in November 2016... Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #4

Thank you Dick Morris Armstead Nov 2015 #73

I dont see it that way. Bernie is a revolutionary, proof of that is his message is randys1 Nov 2015 #9

Our country was on the wrong side of the upaloopa Nov 2015 #12

That is why i mentioned the self sacrifice or lack thereof. But you have to give him credit randys1 Nov 2015 #13

Me and Hillary and Bernie are within a few years upaloopa Nov 2015 #60

You misunderstand, I am saying before all of them because he is older and has been in govt longer randys1 Nov 2015 #109

I've never seen Hillary's upbringing described as lower middle class... Luminous Animal Nov 2015 #113

I doubt that a Bernie fan did this,looks like a sufrommich Nov 2015 #3

Actually not. Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #5

Then I guess I don't get it. Is a cartoon sufrommich Nov 2015 #6

A good thing? Not to my knowledge. Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #7

Who is embracing it? I'm on pro Bernie sites every day and this is the first I've seen it. Luminous Animal Nov 2015 #15

It is already appearing in the sig lines of Bernie supporters on DU. n/t FSogol Nov 2015 #91

Whose? Aerows Nov 2015 #100

I saw it twice today in a sig line. Don't remember who. n/t FSogol Nov 2015 #107

I had to erase my post, don't want to self delete. demwing Nov 2015 #111

What are you talking about? Did I say anything about ALL Sanders supporters? FSogol Nov 2015 #112

I posted too quickly, and erased my post. Sorry. /nt demwing Nov 2015 #115

Thanks, but you should see the messages appearing in my inbox. FSogol Nov 2015 #117

Check post #84 in this thread: TexasTowelie Nov 2015 #118

Nobody is embracing the image but you AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #22

I just went through his cartoons going back to February and he is very supportive of Luminous Animal Nov 2015 #14

. UglyGreed Nov 2015 #18

I agree that, to me, the cartoon is hardly flattering. Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #90

Nope. That is the only one I found. Luminous Animal Nov 2015 #105

So a pro-Clinton cartoonist is being portrayed in the OP as pro-Sanders. NT Eric J in MN Nov 2015 #124

Yep. And telling us we are doing it wrong. Luminous Animal Nov 2015 #125

Ahahaha. Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #8

Exactly. Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #10

LOL at you joining in mindless Red Baiting. Romulox Nov 2015 #23

LOL at "leftists" who think Bernie has 1/8th the courage of Che. Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #42

So instead, you will support the Third-Way Oligarch! Makes sense. Romulox Nov 2015 #50

Hm. "Third-Way." Thank you for defining yourself. Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #62

I wouldn't want the approval of a Red Baiter. But our faux-Socialist is eager for it! nt Romulox Nov 2015 #65

"Third Way!" "Red Baiter"! Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #70

If the McCarthyism fits...nt Romulox Nov 2015 #72

Yeah, baby! You're on fire! Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #87

It's sad that your OP is considered acceptable here. Our entire community should be ashamed. nt Romulox Nov 2015 #89

Post removed Post removed Nov 2015 #92

I'm not a member of the Sanders forum. I just know hateful rhetoric when I see it. nt Romulox Nov 2015 #94

Fucking classic. Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #132

Well since Sanders does the Revolution shout out--I suspect you will see lots more riversedge Nov 2015 #11

The arrogance this image displays is astounding. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #16

He's on the left, but pro-Clinton. There are some other examples of his work in this thread. arcane1 Nov 2015 #33

Awesome! AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #17

Ooooo! Scary!! Bernie supporters so bad. Nt 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #19

More pathetic Red-baiting from DU's rightwing fringe. nt Romulox Nov 2015 #21

Is there a list of this fringe? NCTraveler Nov 2015 #25

Lists are more your team's style. As in "Are you now or have you ever been..." Romulox Nov 2015 #27

I have no list and find your insinuation laughable at best. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #31

We are discussing the disgusting OP. You interjected yourself into this. nt Romulox Nov 2015 #34

Beep Beep Beep!!! Back it up. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #38

Nope. I stand by every word. If you have a guilty conscience, then that's on you. nt Romulox Nov 2015 #39

Not one thing I have stated can be related to a guilty conscience. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #44

What's interesting I think is interpretation. mmonk Nov 2015 #110

Oddly enough, it's my nieces who wear their Che shirts .... they know who he was polly7 Nov 2015 #114

I understand. mmonk Nov 2015 #116

At least Guevara & Sanders TM99 Nov 2015 #26

I haven't seen a single supporter here promoting that. Just you....... think Nov 2015 #28

Okay. But that's not my fault. Here's the link: Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #61

Sorry think Nov 2015 #68

So people are not supposed appreciate humor amed at themselves? Armstead Nov 2015 #80

It is funny. artislife Nov 2015 #121

I don't think the creator of this is part of Sander's "Fan base" arcane1 Nov 2015 #36

I was referring to this: Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #63

I thought this kind of stuff went out in the 50's. mmonk Nov 2015 #37

Political cartoons? Nope. Alive and well. Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #66

. mmonk Nov 2015 #78

It's only a problem to red baiters. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2015 #69

I suppose he should tell everyone who supports him but doesn't.... Armstead Nov 2015 #75

Err.... okay. Is that the take home message? Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #83

The message I got from your OP Armstead Nov 2015 #86

Some yes, some no. Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #88

IMO this thread is every bit as ban-worthy as anything Loonix posted. nt Romulox Nov 2015 #85

This one, or the original one? NurseJackie Nov 2015 #103

They are unable to discuss issues so this is what they do. I recommend putting the lot on ignore.nm rhett o rick Nov 2015 #130

Wow epic flamebaitery whatchamacallit Nov 2015 #97

consider the source: Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #101

Ah... whatchamacallit Nov 2015 #108

The smell of desperation Aerows Nov 2015 #104

Can you name a campaign that DOESN'T try to lock up the nomination *early*? brooklynite Nov 2015 #135

I can name many Aerows Nov 2015 #137

LOL. Bernie's biggest problem is attacks on his "fan base." morningfog Nov 2015 #106

I think it's pretty clear Trajan Nov 2015 #120

I would say something about this being something like the GOP would do should Persondem Nov 2015 #126

Hell, let's face the truth. Most voters are not going to jwirr Nov 2015 #129

Hypocrite Android3.14 Nov 2015 #127

With all the threads I have seen today that only Bernie can win against the republicans, still_one Nov 2015 #128

1) Cheese Sandwich Nov 2015 #131

That's no where near as stupid as this picture: beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #134

This thread is precisely why Sanders will have a problem in the GE... brooklynite Nov 2015 #136

Thanks. (nt) NurseJackie Nov 2015 #138