2016 Postmortem

Ken Burch

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48. None of us think he's a saint.

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 12:06 AM

Nov 2015

Just the best and most principled person for the job. Why do Clinton supporters always mock the idea of people actually feeling genuine enthusiasm for the candidate they support? Is there something wrong with believing the person you back for an office might truly make a difference, might be something beyond just blandly, mundanely tolerable?

Does politics always HAVE to be "shut up and eat your spinach"?

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To those Bernie supporters who attack PoC for not supporting him right now...Stop, just STOP [View all] Ken Burch Nov 2015 OP

No one is attacking anyone because of their race. Fearless Nov 2015 #1

Agreed Art_from_Ark Nov 2015 #2

Doing racist things, Rebkeh Nov 2015 #37

Oh!!!! Really????? There has been heaven05 Nov 2015 #78

Not even remotely true Fearless Nov 2015 #80

right heaven05 Nov 2015 #85

Yes, right. Fearless Nov 2015 #86

I never said a "vast majority " of DUers are racist. heaven05 Nov 2015 #89

Because your story breaks down you're done talking Fearless Nov 2015 #90

That is not true at all. blackspade Nov 2015 #95

You came back big JustAnotherGen Nov 2015 #118

they always speak without having heaven05 Nov 2015 #129

Yeah, I've got to agree with Fearless on this one. PatrickforO Nov 2015 #109

HRC And Her Supporters Have Created This False Narrative cantbeserious Nov 2015 #3

when bernie fails to be elected it will be his fault no one else. stonecutter357 Nov 2015 #7

False Narrative Is False Narrative - Elected Or Not cantbeserious Nov 2015 #13

The polls clearly show ... NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #40

What does the Isidewith poll say? bravenak Nov 2015 #53

Sorry ... NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #55

I had to check myself earlier too. bravenak Nov 2015 #56

FACTS!!???!!! NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #57

Those get alerted. bravenak Nov 2015 #58

Yeah, I know ... NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #60

They also hate my siglines. Dunno why, I think they're fine. bravenak Nov 2015 #62

No worries. NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #66

Millions of us. It affects our friends and family too. bravenak Nov 2015 #68

If Bernie fails it will be because Wall St succeeded. raouldukelives Nov 2015 #16

wall st doesn't vote vote for me. stonecutter357 Nov 2015 #20

Glad to hear that! For so many out there, it does, every dollar. nt raouldukelives Nov 2015 #22

No, but they pay enough so that others who aren't paying attention do vote for them. n/t Dawgs Nov 2015 #29

But do you vote for wall street? SwampG8r Nov 2015 #79

So you have an excuse built in? Renew Deal Nov 2015 #52

I suppose? It was the same excuse I used when Bush won. raouldukelives Nov 2015 #74

^^^THIS^^^ NorthCarolina Nov 2015 #127

Says the supporter creating false narratives one line at a time. JTFrog Nov 2015 #134

Have Only The Observed Behavior At DU To Rely Upon cantbeserious Nov 2015 #138

Most people are not political junkies and are not paying attention eridani Nov 2015 #4

Epiphany in the cloister of cosmicone Nov 2015 #5

Latest meme. murielm99 Nov 2015 #8

Yes. Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 #10

If only waldo.c Nov 2015 #11

Good one! Paka Nov 2015 #12

None of us think he's a saint. Ken Burch Nov 2015 #48

It is okay to support a person cosmicone Nov 2015 #67

Uncalled for. blackspade Nov 2015 #96

K&R! stonecutter357 Nov 2015 #6

Horseshit, Ken, just horseshit. TM99 Nov 2015 #9

Thank you TM99 PotatoChip Nov 2015 #14

I agree. LuvNewcastle Nov 2015 #17

Welcome back. You were missed. Autumn Nov 2015 #39

Thank you for this. bobbobbins01 Nov 2015 #44

Unfortunately, you just made Ken's point for him blackspade Nov 2015 #99

+1 lovemydog Nov 2015 #115

No, I did not make his point. TM99 Nov 2015 #119

link please? because I haven't seen Bernie supporters attack PoC anywhere on DU. magical thyme Nov 2015 #15

Alert stalking is an attack. blackspade Nov 2015 #97

If and this is a big if... TM99 Nov 2015 #120

It does work both ways. blackspade Nov 2015 #125

So let's add me to that list. TM99 Nov 2015 #128

Sorry, that sucks. blackspade Nov 2015 #131

It is real in a subjective sense. TM99 Nov 2015 #133

It is the swarming that sucks artislife Nov 2015 #143

Skinner and EarlG have stated Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #121

Then how would you describe the bullshit alerts and hides? blackspade Nov 2015 #126

I will when I get to my PC Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #132

The bullshit alerts and hides are a function of our jury system, not a conspiracy. Comrade Grumpy Nov 2015 #136

I've seen this claim, many times, but not the attacks. nt. polly7 Nov 2015 #18

Yeah show me the attacks as well. Puglover Nov 2015 #32

Here's a few recent comments. lovemydog Nov 2015 #73

And you responded very politely. And I thank you for it. Puglover Nov 2015 #75

Thank you Puglover. lovemydog Nov 2015 #84

You were very kind and thoughtful to do this, my friend Number23 Nov 2015 #87

Thank you for your kind words my friend. lovemydog Nov 2015 #88

SPLC is a fabulous organization. I am so happy (but not surprised) to see your support for them! Number23 Nov 2015 #140

Yes N23. lovemydog Nov 2015 #141

I'll pre-emptively say that any alerts on this post are bullshit. blackspade Nov 2015 #98

Thank you blackspade. lovemydog Nov 2015 #112

Your welcome, and you have a good rest of the week as well! blackspade Nov 2015 #123

I have seen this claim made repeatedly by a single person AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #83

Wow, you sure drank some Koolaid there Android3.14 Nov 2015 #19

Hillary camp? stonecutter357 Nov 2015 #21

Really! hootinholler Nov 2015 #43

What happens on DU time and again edgineered Nov 2015 #23

Word. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #25

I'm just bugged that Bernie is being accused of being a racist when he clearly isn't. Vinca Nov 2015 #24

Not this shit again. n/t winter is coming Nov 2015 #26

The injury is almost entirely from the other campaign's use of such racial memes. leveymg Nov 2015 #27

Nice post. Dawgs Nov 2015 #30

Link please?? darkangel218 Nov 2015 #28

The gawddamn "attacking" I see is from ONE "PoC" on Senator Sanders. 99Forever Nov 2015 #31

Yeah, I'm pretty new here and I'm noticing this strange dynamic you speak of jack_krass Nov 2015 #63

I'm out of the loop on social media...is this common on some social media? HereSince1628 Nov 2015 #33

Yes Rebkeh Nov 2015 #35

which suggests its a problem on DU, I've miss this problem HereSince1628 Nov 2015 #36

I haven't. Ever. LWolf Nov 2015 #34

Same here. The first thing that struck me with the title and text was that ALL Bernie appalachiablue Nov 2015 #42

I've changed the title in accordance with your suggestions. Thanks. n/t. Ken Burch Nov 2015 #50

I have seen no Bernie supporters ATTACKING PoC for not supporting Bernie. Autumn Nov 2015 #38

Well, who'da thunk it? NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #41

A lot of us have always realized it. Ken Burch Nov 2015 #45

"Changed for much the better"?? Are you serious? senz Nov 2015 #46

Yes, but he's getting much better at communicating it. Ken Burch Nov 2015 #49

Now you understand what we Hillary Clinton supporters have to contend with? BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #72

Wow Ken, I am so sorry you are getting this reaction. Thanks for trying though. bettyellen Nov 2015 #81

So in other words ... NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #54

I do get it. Ken Burch Nov 2015 #59

Okay, Ken ... NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #61

I'll offer some guesses...I wouldn't presume to "whitemansplain" PoC candidate support patterns. Ken Burch Nov 2015 #70

Right off the top ... NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #94

You asked him what he thought given that he is not a POC. blackspade Nov 2015 #100

Yes, I asked. NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #101

It was a potential teaching moment that you chose to ignore. blackspade Nov 2015 #103

I am not in need ... NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #104

He wasn't teaching, but responding to YOUR question. blackspade Nov 2015 #105

I asked Ken to explain ... NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #106

So why will you not answer? blackspade Nov 2015 #107

Not being an AA or PoC ... NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #108

That's a cop out. blackspade Nov 2015 #110

Oh, I have my opinions ... NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #111

I have. blackspade Nov 2015 #124

According to this whatchamacallit Nov 2015 #113

Well there's your just reward for trying to be fair and open minded. Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #64

I don't disagree with you about the 'racial issue's" origin.... blackspade Nov 2015 #102

Getting the over reaction was the whole goal. Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #130

Good post Dem2 Nov 2015 #47

Thank you Ken Burch. lovemydog Nov 2015 #51

Attacked? jack_krass Nov 2015 #65

Well said emulatorloo Nov 2015 #69

Thank you. n/t. Ken Burch Nov 2015 #71

Quit telling people what to do. Jester Messiah Nov 2015 #76

I agree with you MuseRider Nov 2015 #77

Define attack in this context? aikoaiko Nov 2015 #82

Yeah; all none of you, cut it out!! n/t winter is coming Nov 2015 #91

Speaking of "just stop"... MrMickeysMom Nov 2015 #92

Agreed. Bravenak's stalkers are a good example. blackspade Nov 2015 #93

Sure. Now just find me any Bernies supporters who are "attacking" people of color Maedhros Nov 2015 #114

I'd like to get your unbiased thoughts on this... seaglass Nov 2015 #122

I don't see an "attack" on anyone. Maedhros Nov 2015 #137

You didn't see that as an attack on Bravenak suggesting she was race nagging? Would she have to seaglass Nov 2015 #139

Bravenak likes to antagonize people to get a reaction. Maedhros Nov 2015 #142

Who are these people? ArcticFox Nov 2015 #116

glad to see us all pull together MFM008 Nov 2015 #117

For the record... Bobbie Jo Nov 2015 #135