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2016 Postmortem
Showing Original Post only (View all)Do You WANT TO SEE One Of The Republicans Win In 2016? If So, Backing Hillary Is The Way To Go [View all]

Greg Sargent raised the warning signals, based on a new poll released yesterday by Stan Greenberg, that core Democratic voters-- particularly millennials (but also unmarried women and minorities-- are not as energized by the 2016 elections yet as core Republican voters. Perhaps that's because anti-establishment Democrats have come to the conclusion that their party's horribly flawed establishment candidate is inevitable, while Republicans have all but vanquished her equivalent (Jeb) and will probably pick an altogether anti-establishment candidate, if not "outsiders" Trump or Carson, then Texas neo-fascist Ted Cruz.
The Democratic establishment strategy is always "but we have the lesser-of-two-evils." And that's true. Bernie summed up the conundrum on ABC's This Week Sunday when he told viewers, when asked about the party's establishment-backed candidate, that "on her worst day, Hillary Clinton will be an infinitely better candidate and president than the Republican candidate on his best day. But having said that, we have very significant differences, and the key difference is I see a nation in which we have a grotesque level of income and wealth inequality." Bernie is the Democrats' anti-establishment candidate, even to the point of leaving big money from wealthy progressives on the table."
Sanders' refusal to engage in big money politics provides a striking contrast to Clinton. Northern California trails only Washington and New York, and arguably Southern California, as a campaign cash target for her campaign. And its huge financial role was underscored last week by a 900-person, hour-and-a-half gathering headlined by Clinton at a manor deep in Silicon Valley on Wednesday afternoon and a 290-person event at a Napa winery on Thursday evening.
Meanwhile, the Vermonter's lack of interest in the region's cash is a phenomenon that jibes with his campaign's singular focus on Iowa and New Hampshire this fall. But by not sending emissaries-- and not even stopping by the San Francisco area for one of his signature megarallies-- the insurgent Vermont senator is missing out on potentially millions of dollars.
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/bernie-sanders-silicon-valley-fundraising-215619
When Bernie told ABC News viewers that the key difference between Hilary and himself is that he sees "a nation in which we have a grotesque level of income and wealth inequality," the implication is that she doesn't. Or that, at the very least, stressing over it isn't her top priority. David Dayen's American Prospect article, Bring Back Antitrust, on the prevalence of "market concentration" (monopolies) as a driving force in American business, helps explain why it should be and why progressives are so much more excited about Bernie than about... the establishment candidate. "Market concentration," he wrote, "has a powerful impact on the day-to-day lives of every American, not just because monopolists have pricing power. Monopolies can also stunt innovation, degrade quality of service, increase inequality, and concentrate political power. But in a segmented economy, monopoly pricing power and suppression of innovation in some sectors can co-exist with competitive markets elsewhere. As for low inflation, much of it reflects depressed wages, in some ways driven by market concentration. So the consumer is hit twice-- once in the paycheck and again at the store. And the Internet, for all of its ability to facilitate shopping around, has facilitated platform monopolies or near-monopolies such as Amazon and Google, with other anti-competitive effects. ...American progressives have long had an ambivalent view of bigness. The split was evident in the presidential election of 1912. Bull Moose Teddy Roosevelts idea was to allow some concentration to most efficiently distribute goods, but to let experts regulate those firms for the public benefit. Democrat Woodrow Wilson, and his adviser Louis Brandeis, saw concentrated power as dangerous, and held that monopolies that unduly restricted competition should be broken up.
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Can anti-monopoly sentiment be revived? When New Yorks Working Families Party first recruited Zephyr Teachout to run for governor, she said she would only do it if she could talk about monopolies. They polled it, and they were correct that nobody knew what I was talking about, Teachout says. But when she eventually ran an insurgent campaign against incumbent Andrew Cuomo, she was determined to talk about it anyway. The minute you got past the sound-bite level, people responded to the concentration of power, Teachout says. They did campaign events at places where people paid their cable bills, using the pending ComcastTime Warner merger, eventually abandoned, as the hook. She engaged farmers in upstate New York about monopsony power, and discussed Amazon and big banks on the stump. And it resonated. After only one month of campaigning, Teachout won 35 percent of the vote, with particular strength in upstate counties where farming issues were prominent. The Tea Party talks to people and says, Youre out of power because government is taking it away from you, Teachout says. Far too often, Democrats say, Youre wrong, youre not out of power. Thats dissonant with our lived experience. Youre out of power because your priorities dont matter and JPMorgans do.
http://prospect.org/article/bring-back-antitrust-0
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Can anti-monopoly sentiment be revived? When New Yorks Working Families Party first recruited Zephyr Teachout to run for governor, she said she would only do it if she could talk about monopolies. They polled it, and they were correct that nobody knew what I was talking about, Teachout says. But when she eventually ran an insurgent campaign against incumbent Andrew Cuomo, she was determined to talk about it anyway. The minute you got past the sound-bite level, people responded to the concentration of power, Teachout says. They did campaign events at places where people paid their cable bills, using the pending ComcastTime Warner merger, eventually abandoned, as the hook. She engaged farmers in upstate New York about monopsony power, and discussed Amazon and big banks on the stump. And it resonated. After only one month of campaigning, Teachout won 35 percent of the vote, with particular strength in upstate counties where farming issues were prominent. The Tea Party talks to people and says, Youre out of power because government is taking it away from you, Teachout says. Far too often, Democrats say, Youre wrong, youre not out of power. Thats dissonant with our lived experience. Youre out of power because your priorities dont matter and JPMorgans do.
http://prospect.org/article/bring-back-antitrust-0
But here's where the source of Clinton's backers and her corporate-oriented campaign contributions come into play-- and why the Politico story about Bernie not wanting to chase Silicon Valley money is so important. This chart from the Greenberg poll was all over the internet yesterday. Understanding the "whys" behind it... less so. If you feel we need to bring back antitrust, please consider a contribution to the candidates who see eye-to-eye with you on that.

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Do You WANT TO SEE One Of The Republicans Win In 2016? If So, Backing Hillary Is The Way To Go [View all]
Segami
Nov 2015
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Oh, and we should tailor our choices for the Prez nomination to what the Repukes think!?!?!?!?
Hepburn
Nov 2015
#66
What Hillary supporters don't understand is how big a problem Hillary's record and baggage
merrily
Nov 2015
#54
I'm not looking for a perfect candidate, but we have one who's much better than Hillary.
merrily
Nov 2015
#61
Maybe this represents a way to educate Americans about social democracy, eh?
PatrickforO
Nov 2015
#103
No it isn't. You're thinking of back in the 'fifties which are now history and people today KNOW
sabrina 1
Nov 2015
#128
Someone recently accused you of never posting anything of substance and you challanged
rhett o rick
Nov 2015
#6
I thought I'd give the benefit of the doubt although I didn't really have a doubt.
rhett o rick
Nov 2015
#67
How ironic it would have been to get a hide from a post that I made attempting to
rhett o rick
Nov 2015
#62
But if Clinton wins, the Oligarchy wins. No help for those living in poverty. No help for the poor
rhett o rick
Nov 2015
#7
And since the debate, Sanders is doing worse among African Americans, not better.
pnwmom
Nov 2015
#114
Nov 9: McClatchy/Marist Poll: Hillary Clinton Leads All Republicans Nationally
SunSeeker
Nov 2015
#12
Nope. Sanders has not been hit with the GOP onslaught of lies like Hillary has.
SunSeeker
Nov 2015
#26
Because racism and sexism and socialism haven't been hurled at him as accusations?
Betty Karlson
Nov 2015
#59
Oh please. How many negative ads have been run against Bernie---by anyone? nt
SunSeeker
Nov 2015
#63
LOL. Good luck competing with the billion(s) in GOP super pac money with that.
SunSeeker
Nov 2015
#50
I don't need numbers. And some moderate Republicans have come forward to support
rhett o rick
Nov 2015
#84
"a Bernie supporter sitting home and letting the GOP take the White House."
Betty Karlson
Nov 2015
#95
That doesn't make a difference if the candidate engenders low enthousiasm
Betty Karlson
Nov 2015
#97
But the majority of the millennials are not died-in-the-wool Hillary enthousiasts.
Betty Karlson
Nov 2015
#100
2010 & 2014 were midterms. That is why the youth vote fell off so precipitously. nt
SunSeeker
Nov 2015
#117
Clinton's voting record is to the right of Sanders and even to the right of Obama.
rhett o rick
Nov 2015
#115
Nope. Hillary is rated "hard core liberal," just like Elizabeth Warren and to the left of Obama.
SunSeeker
Nov 2015
#116
OntheIssues has been debunked. They forgot about her vote to help the Republicons invade
rhett o rick
Nov 2015
#121
only in your mind. How can a Democrat support someone that takes millions for
rhett o rick
Nov 2015
#123
That's self-identified. A lot of conservative Democrats think they are liberal while supporting
rhett o rick
Nov 2015
#125
If one is ok with the deaths of 500,000 Iraqi's they ain't liberal no matter how well they say
rhett o rick
Nov 2015
#132
Besides Independents, Obama won because of huge support among PoC and women.
SunSeeker
Nov 2015
#111
Vote Clinton or else? Really? There we go again with the "lesser of two evils" argument.
Betty Karlson
Nov 2015
#145
I like to say they're posting from bizarro world where everything is opposite.
Metric System
Nov 2015
#65
Facts, just the facts. Fact is Sanders as the nominee would not win the presidency, as the nominee
Thinkingabout
Nov 2015
#77
Did is stop the GOP candidates from bringing up socialists last night, no, and it will be their
Thinkingabout
Nov 2015
#79
After all of the years the Clintons have been targeted through non scandals yes we are aware and
Thinkingabout
Nov 2015
#131
I have a larger problem with Sanders voting five times against the Brady Bill we have had more
Thinkingabout
Nov 2015
#134
Everytime I hear Sanders explain the gun issue it is the "I am fron a rural state" and I don't hear
Thinkingabout
Nov 2015
#138
Hillary is very experienced, she has listened and has set her agenda by the information she received
Thinkingabout
Nov 2015
#144
From my perspective if Hillary is elected President, one of the Republicans DID win.
Maedhros
Nov 2015
#104
Tell you what: Take the "Hillary is a Republican" line out to Ohio and Pennsylvania...
brooklynite
Nov 2015
#130
Ha! There is a reason Rachel Maddow asked Hillary what Republican Hillary would choose as VP.
Todays_Illusion
Nov 2015
#141