2016 Postmortem

duggie99

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4. Voting

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 11:34 PM

Nov 2015

I will vote for Hillary and let the chips fall the way they will. I don't think any of these clowns can beat us regardless if it is Hillary or Bernie. I like them both but prefer Hillary.

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Do You WANT TO SEE One Of The Republicans Win In 2016? If So, Backing Hillary Is The Way To Go [View all] Segami Nov 2015 OP

What the Hillary supporters just don't understand SheilaT Nov 2015 #1

If you watched the debate tonight redstateblues Nov 2015 #2

Wonderful. Then let's nominate him. nm rhett o rick Nov 2015 #5

Good to hear. SheilaT Nov 2015 #10

Amazing Times.... LovingA2andMI Nov 2015 #24

Oh, and we should tailor our choices for the Prez nomination to what the Repukes think!?!?!?!? Hepburn Nov 2015 #66

Democrats think Hillary Clinton is more trustworthy than Bernie Sanders BlueStateLib Nov 2015 #8

Misleading headline thesquanderer Nov 2015 #48

Like heck. merrily Nov 2015 #56

.... Hepburn Nov 2015 #68

What the Sanders supporters just don't understand jmowreader Nov 2015 #13

But I thought the nonSanders Dems were party loyalists artislife Nov 2015 #16

Apparently that's not the case with the non-Hillary Democrats jmowreader Nov 2015 #19

Ho hum. nt artislife Nov 2015 #20

That's were the Write In process in the voting booth counts... LovingA2andMI Nov 2015 #25

OT..your screen name artislife Nov 2015 #27

Nope, a Town in Michigan. LovingA2andMI Nov 2015 #32

Oh.. artislife Nov 2015 #34

Cheboygan. Alpena and Mackinaw... LovingA2andMI Nov 2015 #39

It was after the snow and before the big flies artislife Nov 2015 #40

What Hillary supporters don't understand is how big a problem Hillary's record and baggage merrily Nov 2015 #54

If you want a "perfect" candidate, we aren't going to get one jmowreader Nov 2015 #60

I'm not looking for a perfect candidate, but we have one who's much better than Hillary. merrily Nov 2015 #61

Jimmy Carter Hepburn Nov 2015 #69

What the Clinton supporters just don't understand earthside Nov 2015 #82

Maybe this represents a way to educate Americans about social democracy, eh? PatrickforO Nov 2015 #103

No it isn't. You're thinking of back in the 'fifties which are now history and people today KNOW sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #128

The socialist label is a non issue, SheilaT Nov 2015 #129

She thinks it will not matter in the general because we will jwirr Nov 2015 #52

Weak sauce in the extreme. Darb Nov 2015 #118

Ok. n/t zappaman Nov 2015 #3

Someone recently accused you of never posting anything of substance and you challanged rhett o rick Nov 2015 #6

He and Bravenak use the same avatar waldo.c Nov 2015 #14

Same person, two profiles....maybe... LovingA2andMI Nov 2015 #28

This message was self-deleted by its author JTFrog Nov 2015 #85

That is not cool not even close to being cool Kalidurga Nov 2015 #37

The bravenak profile is on here virtually 24/7. Beyond weird riderinthestorm Nov 2015 #80

Looks like MIRT did sort it out. JTFrog Nov 2015 #86

He believes that he's scary? BeanMusical Nov 2015 #15

Seriously, you needed to search? merrily Nov 2015 #51

I thought I'd give the benefit of the doubt although I didn't really have a doubt. rhett o rick Nov 2015 #67

My poking fun with honest posters such as you is usually gentle merrily Nov 2015 #72

Jury results should not have been anywhere near close. merrily Nov 2015 #53

How ironic it would have been to get a hide from a post that I made attempting to rhett o rick Nov 2015 #62

Stretch is a polite way to put it. merrily Nov 2015 #76

I haven't noticed. I will look more closely. nm rhett o rick Nov 2015 #83

Voting duggie99 Nov 2015 #4

But if Clinton wins, the Oligarchy wins. No help for those living in poverty. No help for the poor rhett o rick Nov 2015 #7

What a bunch of BS. JaneyVee Nov 2015 #17

Which Clinton are you talking about? BeanMusical Nov 2015 #30

The one that's not running for office Scootaloo Nov 2015 #43

But the one who's running for office created 25 million jobs. BeanMusical Nov 2015 #47

Sanders can't win because he's not making significant headway among pnwmom Nov 2015 #44

This is a valid concern Nonhlanhla Nov 2015 #106

And since the debate, Sanders is doing worse among African Americans, not better. pnwmom Nov 2015 #114

Gawd save us from the Queen! RobertEarl Nov 2015 #9

Ronda Rousey Will NOT vote for Hillary gordyfl Nov 2015 #11

That's like an endorsement from Donny Schatz or Aaron Martens jmowreader Nov 2015 #23

Rousey is a 28 year-old woman. Major Hogwash Nov 2015 #46

And many fewer Americans have heard of her than even Bernie Sanders. n/t pnwmom Nov 2015 #45

Who cares? She didn't vote for Pres. Obama in 2012 either. Metric System Nov 2015 #64

Nov 9: McClatchy/Marist Poll: Hillary Clinton Leads All Republicans Nationally SunSeeker Nov 2015 #12

Sanders is more electable than Clinton. Betty Karlson Nov 2015 #21

Nope. Sanders has not been hit with the GOP onslaught of lies like Hillary has. SunSeeker Nov 2015 #26

Is that the latest attempt to win over Sanders supporters: Betty Karlson Nov 2015 #29

Why do you think the GOP is trying to help Bernie get the nomination? SunSeeker Nov 2015 #31

Those links don't confirm your words. Betty Karlson Nov 2015 #33

OK, you don't have to believe what they say. How about what they do? SunSeeker Nov 2015 #35

Because Clinton's campaign is doing all the attacking for them? eom Betty Karlson Nov 2015 #36

Hardly. Bernie has pretty much gone unscathed up to now. nt SunSeeker Nov 2015 #49

Because racism and sexism and socialism haven't been hurled at him as accusations? Betty Karlson Nov 2015 #59

Oh please. How many negative ads have been run against Bernie---by anyone? nt SunSeeker Nov 2015 #63

"Is he going to fight back with the 2 million he got from his supporters?" BeanMusical Nov 2015 #38

LOL. Good luck competing with the billion(s) in GOP super pac money with that. SunSeeker Nov 2015 #50

Simple math. rhett o rick Nov 2015 #73

LOL. What math? You offer no numbers. SunSeeker Nov 2015 #74

I don't need numbers. And some moderate Republicans have come forward to support rhett o rick Nov 2015 #84

It is simply not true that no Republicans will vote for Hillary. SunSeeker Nov 2015 #87

Then you explain how Clinton will get more votes in the general. nm rhett o rick Nov 2015 #89

Money, Organization, Message. nt SunSeeker Nov 2015 #90

How is she going to convince Sen Sanders supporters to vote for her? rhett o rick Nov 2015 #91

Hillary's voting record is to the left of Obama and Biden. SunSeeker Nov 2015 #93

"a Bernie supporter sitting home and letting the GOP take the White House." Betty Karlson Nov 2015 #95

2016 is not a midterm FFS. nt SunSeeker Nov 2015 #96

That doesn't make a difference if the candidate engenders low enthousiasm Betty Karlson Nov 2015 #97

Hillary supporters have lots of enthusiasm. nt SunSeeker Nov 2015 #98

But the majority of the millennials are not died-in-the-wool Hillary enthousiasts. Betty Karlson Nov 2015 #100

2010 & 2014 were midterms. That is why the youth vote fell off so precipitously. nt SunSeeker Nov 2015 #117

Clinton's voting record is to the right of Sanders and even to the right of Obama. rhett o rick Nov 2015 #115

Nope. Hillary is rated "hard core liberal," just like Elizabeth Warren and to the left of Obama. SunSeeker Nov 2015 #116

OntheIssues has been debunked. They forgot about her vote to help the Republicons invade rhett o rick Nov 2015 #121

And yet she creams Sanders among liberal Dems. nt SunSeeker Nov 2015 #122

only in your mind. How can a Democrat support someone that takes millions for rhett o rick Nov 2015 #123

Hillary's donors are the same as Obama's. You can't win without big money. SunSeeker Nov 2015 #124

That's self-identified. A lot of conservative Democrats think they are liberal while supporting rhett o rick Nov 2015 #125

People know themselves better than you do, rhett o rick. nt SunSeeker Nov 2015 #127

If one is ok with the deaths of 500,000 Iraqi's they ain't liberal no matter how well they say rhett o rick Nov 2015 #132

Her favorability ratings bode ill for her appeal across party lines. n/t Betty Karlson Nov 2015 #94

Her ratings are better than Bernie's right now. nt SunSeeker Nov 2015 #99

The other way around, I think. n/t Betty Karlson Nov 2015 #101

Hillary's net favorable rating is 63%; Bernie's is 38%. SunSeeker Nov 2015 #102

That's among democrats. Betty Karlson Nov 2015 #105

Hillary has been gaining among Independents way more than Bernie. SunSeeker Nov 2015 #107

Independents are Trump-like people, who agree a bit with both parties. Betty Karlson Nov 2015 #108

Obama absolutely did go for Independents. And won because of them. SunSeeker Nov 2015 #109

If even in 2008 48% of the independents went for McCain, Betty Karlson Nov 2015 #110

Besides Independents, Obama won because of huge support among PoC and women. SunSeeker Nov 2015 #111

The Millennial vote had nothing to do with it, then? Betty Karlson Nov 2015 #112

The millenials pretty much stayed home in 2012 and Obama still won big. nt SunSeeker Nov 2015 #113

So you don't need us? Betty Karlson Nov 2015 #135

Most voters pick a candidate they need, not a candidate who needs them. SunSeeker Nov 2015 #136

And Clinton is not needed by the millennials, then. eom Betty Karlson Nov 2015 #139

Millenials need her if they don't want to be ruled by the GOP. nt SunSeeker Nov 2015 #142

Vote Clinton or else? Really? There we go again with the "lesser of two evils" argument. Betty Karlson Nov 2015 #145

Same as in November 2007... Hepburn Nov 2015 #70

Sanders is not Obama. SunSeeker Nov 2015 #75

She's beating EVERY Republican. JaneyVee Nov 2015 #18

Kick and R BeanMusical Nov 2015 #22

This isn't a message that will resonate with most Americans ecstatic Nov 2015 #41

No it would not be on the cover of any media - haven't you jwirr Nov 2015 #55

Great thread. A lot of information contained herein. Major Hogwash Nov 2015 #42

Yeah, because the country can't wait to elect a 75 year old Socialist. Beacool Nov 2015 #57

I like to say they're posting from bizarro world where everything is opposite. Metric System Nov 2015 #65

A 68 year old with mega negatives certainly will do better. Hepburn Nov 2015 #71

Not according to the recent polls............. Historic NY Nov 2015 #81

"Take up our quarrel with the foe." -In Flanders Fields randome Nov 2015 #58

Third-Way IS our foe ibegurpard Nov 2015 #92

Facts, just the facts. Fact is Sanders as the nominee would not win the presidency, as the nominee Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #77

I do not think that word means what you think it means. Rilgin Nov 2015 #78

Did is stop the GOP candidates from bringing up socialists last night, no, and it will be their Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #79

After all of the years the Clintons have been targeted through non scandals yes we are aware and Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #131

on the democratic side Rilgin Nov 2015 #133

I have a larger problem with Sanders voting five times against the Brady Bill we have had more Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #134

There are small differences on guns between them Rilgin Nov 2015 #137

Everytime I hear Sanders explain the gun issue it is the "I am fron a rural state" and I don't hear Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #138

I do not have a problem with Hillary on guns. Rilgin Nov 2015 #143

Hillary is very experienced, she has listened and has set her agenda by the information she received Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #144

...in your opinion. artislife Nov 2015 #88

From my perspective if Hillary is elected President, one of the Republicans DID win. Maedhros Nov 2015 #104

Tell you what: Take the "Hillary is a Republican" line out to Ohio and Pennsylvania... brooklynite Nov 2015 #130

Good post, but Hilary is still "evolving" on some of these issues. EndElectoral Nov 2015 #119

Blech!!!! Darb Nov 2015 #120

Not good enough. Has to be bashing over the heads....constantly. randys1 Nov 2015 #126

Thanks for the chuckle. Really. Beausoir Nov 2015 #140

Ha! There is a reason Rachel Maddow asked Hillary what Republican Hillary would choose as VP. Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #141