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Wed Nov 11, 2015, 12:52 PM

Nov 2015

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Okay then, FOUR things to stop saying... [View all] bravenak Nov 2015 OP

kick n/t cosmicone Nov 2015 #1

That was an offensive diatribe in my opinion. mmonk Nov 2015 #2

It was the voice of a black millennial. bravenak Nov 2015 #3

unfortunately Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #6

I do not know their voting habits. I am a millennial who is black and votes. Sounds like me. bravenak Nov 2015 #7

Good for you Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #35

So voting for mass incarceration through the Omnibus crime bill was fighting for the disadvantaged? bravenak Nov 2015 #40

It seemed that the Omnibus Crime came when the civil rights were starting to take off LiberalArkie Nov 2015 #82

We have also been a profit center for poor whites and middle class whites. And we know it. bravenak Nov 2015 #83

Oh yea I totally agree. Poor blacks have been a profit center for middle class blacks also. LiberalArkie Nov 2015 #92

I never put that together like that. You might be right. bravenak Nov 2015 #94

Middle aged white men are also the most likely demographic to own a gun. SunSeeker Nov 2015 #122

This isn't about the "good man" or Skidmore Nov 2015 #109

Great post. kwassa Nov 2015 #211

Sanders organized with CORE and SNCC but you're supporting Hillary KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #216

If people stopped trying to force me to justify my vote constantly, I might warm up to Bernie again. bravenak Nov 2015 #218

And Hillary will be worse Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #221

Thanks.nt bravenak Nov 2015 #222

point taken. my apologies. I worry greatly about KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #224

Thank you. bravenak Nov 2015 #225

IT's called 'Voting against your own best interest' AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #228

++++++++++++ newfie11 Nov 2015 #5

Yes. Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 #111

It's all about creating the illusion zeemike Nov 2015 #134

Feels that way. mmonk Nov 2015 #144

Well there is money to be made. zeemike Nov 2015 #150

If that is what you choose to see ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #184

Well there is not that many wagons out there zeemike Nov 2015 #190

Really ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #192

It was a rhetorical question. zeemike Nov 2015 #196

Of course. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #197

It's worth reading for information, Mmonk -- about how people Hortensis Nov 2015 #194

sad Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #4

Do whatever you feel you need to do. bravenak Nov 2015 #8

So what? Be upset, don't vote for Sanders. Everyone knew you weren't going to anyway. DisgustipatedinCA Nov 2015 #17

Why do you care? bravenak Nov 2015 #20

Because there is a lot of needless poverty and suffering in America NorthCarolina Nov 2015 #24

The crime bill removed many black fathers from their homes for extended periods of time. bravenak Nov 2015 #26

Ask Hillary whose husband signed legislation largely responsible NorthCarolina Nov 2015 #27

Perhaps they share it!!! bravenak Nov 2015 #29

Bill Clinton concedes role in mass incarceration NorthCarolina Nov 2015 #32

So Bernie is home free from ANY blame even though he voted for it? bravenak Nov 2015 #34

Why are you only blaming one though? Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #38

She admits what she did. Bill even apologizes for it. bravenak Nov 2015 #43

Now that Republicans have decided prison costs too much AND Hillary is running for Pres, merrily Nov 2015 #236

Because the issue being raised I suspect isn't NorthCarolina Nov 2015 #97

Can you define why he voted for it? We're there other things tacked on NorthCarolina Nov 2015 #41

But I thought he fought for the disadvantaged? bravenak Nov 2015 #47

Funny, I watched the video of Bill Clinton fessing up to signing the legislation, NorthCarolina Nov 2015 #55

Yes. Bill apologized, owned up to his faults. bravenak Nov 2015 #59

OK, so "sorry, my bad" is good enough for you. NorthCarolina Nov 2015 #61

Has Bernie even said that about the crime bill? I'd take that. bravenak Nov 2015 #65

Someone once said NorthCarolina Nov 2015 #72

Only the Clintons need to apologize. I get it. bravenak Nov 2015 #73

Actually, I don't think they do. For instance, you were a Clinton supporter NorthCarolina Nov 2015 #76

You do not know what I was. bravenak Nov 2015 #80

I've been on this site for more than a few years, so.... NorthCarolina Nov 2015 #86

Ok.nt bravenak Nov 2015 #91

Bernie is responsible for Bernies support dsc Nov 2015 #96

+1000. n/t 2pooped2pop Nov 2015 #88

The Clinton Crime Bill. Hillary supported it, Bill advanced it. Black Caucus voted for it 2 to 1 Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #123

People pretend Bernie did not vote for it. bravenak Nov 2015 #132

and some fail to see Hillary Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #140

Like whom? I see it. bravenak Nov 2015 #142

Really? I see people pretending Hillary did not promote it. I also see you ignorning all that I Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #147

You seem too angry. I shut down when folks are very angry. bravenak Nov 2015 #149

I'm used to straight folks pulling that 'too emotional' stuff on LGBT speaking about vote counts and Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #169

You are berating me throughout the thread. bravenak Nov 2015 #171

Pointing out the obvious is not Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #181

I have not berated you and any reader can see that. I am speaking facts calmly Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #207

you are correct in your posting of this OP heaven05 Nov 2015 #209

Thank you Brother!!!! bravenak Nov 2015 #210

No that person just points out the obvious Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #179

Bad vote. But that's one vote. How is his overall record on criminal justice and civil rights? Comrade Grumpy Nov 2015 #128

His overall record is good comparatively. bravenak Nov 2015 #131

And Bill Clinton's overall actions for blacks is much better than folks want to give him credit for. kelliekat44 Nov 2015 #215

Because I grew tired of your list of demands some time ago. DisgustipatedinCA Nov 2015 #98

So? bravenak Nov 2015 #99

You asked a question. I provided an answer. Keep up. DisgustipatedinCA Nov 2015 #100

Just wondering why you feel the need to talk to me bravenak Nov 2015 #101

Uh...maybe because you started a discussion, on a discussion board. DisgustipatedinCA Nov 2015 #102

Awww! I'm hurt! bravenak Nov 2015 #105

I trust you've received my original point. Good day. DisgustipatedinCA Nov 2015 #106

Bye.nt bravenak Nov 2015 #107

some may get tired of the repetitive nature 2pooped2pop Nov 2015 #31

Very true Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #39

Oh really? ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #119

probably 2pooped2pop Nov 2015 #148

Not by me--let it out ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #156

I may have attached my response to wrong post. 2pooped2pop Nov 2015 #182

And we will continue to point out blunders....like taking Dr Cornell West to South Carolina... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #11

This message was self-deleted by its author Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 #112

It's pathetic AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #227

I did not know this: bravenak Nov 2015 #9

Statistics like rates can paint a weird picture when dealing with very small numbers. aikoaiko Nov 2015 #13

It's kinda hard to explain away though. bravenak Nov 2015 #15

So it's obviously Bernie's fault Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #45

It is merely a statistic from his State. bravenak Nov 2015 #48

He has been for 50 years Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #51

By helping pass the omnibus crime bill that gave us manditory minimums, how so? bravenak Nov 2015 #53

By fighting Wall Street Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #58

Wall street is not my biggest issue. Not on the list of thinks most blacks place as their primary bravenak Nov 2015 #63

It should be Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #68

Racism causes race problems. Not money.nt bravenak Nov 2015 #74

Money along with the southern strategy is a weapon. mmonk Nov 2015 #113

I notice you list money first. bravenak Nov 2015 #115

My list is not an hierarchy since I'm not an either or person. mmonk Nov 2015 #118

I saw plenty of racism in California. bravenak Nov 2015 #120

It's everywhere. But the south where I live, it's an institution. mmonk Nov 2015 #124

I agree.nt bravenak Nov 2015 #133

I will not even say what I think Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #125

Bakersfield. bravenak Nov 2015 #129

No matter how much you want... tex-wyo-dem Nov 2015 #151

Ok.nt bravenak Nov 2015 #152

BS heaven05 Nov 2015 #217

Believe what you want Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #219

you too heaven05 Nov 2015 #230

Hillary promoting the crime bill in 94, it's all about locking them up and leaving them there.... Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #137

True. And Bernie voted for it.nt bravenak Nov 2015 #138

And Hillary would have also Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #141

Yes. Nobody pretends she is a saint. Nobody. bravenak Nov 2015 #143

Hell no ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #160

Exactly! bravenak Nov 2015 #167

Yes many actually do Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #174

Not really. bravenak Nov 2015 #175

Personally when both candidates were on the same side on an issue I think Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #165

My point is that they are not that different. bravenak Nov 2015 #168

That's my biggest problem Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #177

that does not matter Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #139

Nor I. :( Wilms Nov 2015 #21

Sad that they cannot explain it. bravenak Nov 2015 #22

funny I just read Truprogressive85 Nov 2015 #10

Yep!!! bravenak Nov 2015 #14

her faults kill people 2pooped2pop Nov 2015 #37

Never seen you call her out Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #46

Hillary? That was so pre Summer! bravenak Nov 2015 #52

And next spring Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #62

Of course she will. They all do. bravenak Nov 2015 #66

And what she is saying now Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #71

K&R mcar Nov 2015 #12

No prob! bravenak Nov 2015 #18

We've all been through it mcar Nov 2015 #172

I think they bore us on purpose. bravenak Nov 2015 #173

Right? mcar Nov 2015 #180

I follow BlkMillennials on twitter Truprogressive85 Nov 2015 #16

Hillary is just like ALL POLITICIANS. bravenak Nov 2015 #19

sorry Truprogressive85 Nov 2015 #25

Never sit well with me either. bravenak Nov 2015 #28

Sandy Hook isn't particularlly rural. Wilms Nov 2015 #36

Not particularly Urban either. bravenak Nov 2015 #54

Right. It's pretty much a suburb. Wilms Nov 2015 #77

Yep. bravenak Nov 2015 #79

You do know Truprogressive85 Nov 2015 #44

Pesky facts Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #49

He is still saying it. She is not. bravenak Nov 2015 #56

both are dancing on the issue Truprogressive85 Nov 2015 #75

Nobody has a realistic plan. bravenak Nov 2015 #78

She not trying she playing politics Truprogressive85 Nov 2015 #85

A ticket. He derseved a ticket. To go to court and fight it just like a white dude could. bravenak Nov 2015 #90

so she would use the Ferguson model than Truprogressive85 Nov 2015 #103

We have to pick somebody. bravenak Nov 2015 #104

That is your opinion Truprogressive85 Nov 2015 #108

That is fine. bravenak Nov 2015 #110

Yeah, you are hearing a dog whistle where none exists. fbc Nov 2015 #161

I do not think so. bravenak Nov 2015 #164

I felt this part. bravenak Nov 2015 #23

K&R NCTraveler Nov 2015 #30

Thank you thank you thank you! bravenak Nov 2015 #33

The white savior canard wasn't created by us. mmonk Nov 2015 #60

I never said you directly. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #64

I'm willing to bet many of Bernie's supporters would support Barbara Lee mmonk Nov 2015 #84

I agree. Many of them would. Many of them wouldn't. nt. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #89

Maybe, of you acknpowledge that, there is no "them" Armstead Nov 2015 #154

Maybe what? NCTraveler Nov 2015 #159

Probably was a litle random. I was Posting While Preoccupied Armstead Nov 2015 #188

You post good shit and you make me examine Codeine Nov 2015 #42

Thank you! bravenak Nov 2015 #50

Way to go B! giftedgirl77 Nov 2015 #57

I won't. bravenak Nov 2015 #67

the only one of those things i have heard people say restorefreedom Nov 2015 #69

K&R Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #70

So many ways they could be a part of the solution. bravenak Nov 2015 #81

Right? ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #116

Instead they get sidelined in the discussion as "identity politics" & "your issue" Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #176

Thanks for sharing! Stellar Nov 2015 #87

It is pretty funny! bravenak Nov 2015 #93

I think so! NT. Stellar Nov 2015 #95

K&R ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #114

The author of the piece means it too. She wants to shoot anyone who is tainted with anti-blackness. DisgustipatedinCA Nov 2015 #117

Is there a point? bravenak Nov 2015 #121

yes DisgustipatedinCA Nov 2015 #145

Nice cherry picking ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #127

I like that one too. Shooting infiltrators and those affected with taint--not so much. DisgustipatedinCA Nov 2015 #146

Hmm ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #155

Do you always make assumptions that are completely unsupported? DisgustipatedinCA Nov 2015 #158

Do you? ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #162

I'll leave you to your "I know you are but what am I" level of discourse. Bye now. DisgustipatedinCA Nov 2015 #163

I noticed you are far more mature than I ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #186

Lacking a premise, supporting evidence and a conclusion, your level of discourse isn't much more... LanternWaste Nov 2015 #223

If you believe that "I know you are but what am I" is a good rhetorical comeback... DisgustipatedinCA Nov 2015 #226

sickening Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #130

Switch "white" for "black" and it sounds like the Klan. WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2015 #214

People who blame a candidate's supporters for their voting decisions are liars. fbc Nov 2015 #126

. bravenak Nov 2015 #135

very true Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #136

No one needs to justify their vote to you or anyone else BainsBane Nov 2015 #153

Hahahahaha! ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #157

Nailed it. nt Romulox Nov 2015 #185

FOUR venues Clinton supporters haven't expelled BLM from MisterP Nov 2015 #166

Ok.nt bravenak Nov 2015 #170

Wow, such a lot of hate zalinda Nov 2015 #178

If a white person wrote that hateful piece Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #183

You can go over there and call her out.nt bravenak Nov 2015 #187

Yes I can Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #189

co-signed Blue_Tires Nov 2015 #191

K&R. Hortensis Nov 2015 #193

Good piece... Digital Puppy Nov 2015 #195

Thank you! bravenak Nov 2015 #202

LOLOLOL!!!!!!!! Girl, the more they try to shut you up the HARDER you come at 'em Number23 Nov 2015 #198

Hey! I only have them half the list!! They can do it! bravenak Nov 2015 #200

Who's trying to shut her up? jack_krass Nov 2015 #212

And with excellent, excellent reason Number23 Nov 2015 #213

Skinner has stated Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #220

I don't need to take it up with anyone. Everyone here knows what's going on Number23 Nov 2015 #229

Ok Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #231

See ya Number23 Nov 2015 #232

Kicking. F4lconF16 Nov 2015 #199

Here it goes. Nothing wrong with it bravenak Nov 2015 #201

Wow. #bulllllshittttttt. Nt F4lconF16 Nov 2015 #203

I know.nt bravenak Nov 2015 #204

Girl you got Hillary energy.. or she has bravenak Energy! Cha Nov 2015 #205

One thing about mentioning MLK is that makes people think that's all he did jfern Nov 2015 #206

thank you heaven05 Nov 2015 #208

A line from the article that stood out... Jester Messiah Nov 2015 #233

Jury voted unanimously to leave. Alerter may not alert for 24 hours. merrily Nov 2015 #235

WTF. Jester Messiah Nov 2015 #237

I know. On the bright side, the jury voted unanimously to leave. nt merrily Nov 2015 #238

I finally realized why that sounds familiar. AtomicKitten Nov 2015 #239

We are not the ones trying to hav a revolution. You are. You need us. bravenak Nov 2015 #240

Think so? Jester Messiah Nov 2015 #241

I'll be fine too. Blacks are used to living in a depression. Lived in degredation since the founding bravenak Nov 2015 #242

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LUCKY YOU! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^!!!!!!! Cha Nov 2015 #243