2016 Postmortem

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64. Anyone who says extreme economic inequality is not a major problem for this country

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 05:59 PM

Nov 2015

is profiting from the conditions that produced it. They are either Third Way or Republican.

Real Democrats, the ones discarded in the 1990s by Third Way "centrists," care deeply about extreme economic inequality. Third way is much closer to Republican than it is to Real Democrats.

I have seen the "Kodak" rationale used on other sites: it holds that technology, not trade or unequal wealth, is killing American jobs. Don't trust anyone who tries to push that. As the author of the OP points out, Kodak's anecdotal evidence is not borne out by solid economic data. Deregulation and trade deals like GATT, NAFTA, and TPP are what gut the American middle class and the poor. This is how our future is being destroyed.

We have to start defending ourselves against both Third Way Democrats and Republicans. They are the enemy.

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The 'NEW DEMOCRATS' Meet the New Reality [View all] Segami Nov 2015 OP

The unfortunate reality of those of us stuck in the desert concerning ideas or options. mmonk Nov 2015 #1

Good Post. nt Snotcicles Nov 2015 #2

"..Today's real "New Democrats".. Segami Nov 2015 #3

Amen 840high Nov 2015 #33

YES. LWolf Nov 2015 #59

Well put. The Third Way let's their ideology get the best of them. They are convinced the masses rhett o rick Nov 2015 #85

Good article for those who haven't been paying attention left lowrider Nov 2015 #4

Excellent Trajan Nov 2015 #5

article explains why Dems lose seats repeatedly. nashville_brook Nov 2015 #6

Stop it! 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #7

Love it, 99th, Gmak Nov 2015 #22

New McClatchy-Marist poll shows same thing re Bernie DESTROYS BOTH Bush AND Trump 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #26

Tell that to Clinton supporters. RoccoR5955 Nov 2015 #50

You mean the one that was first instituted in 2007? Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2015 #41

Actually, it seems to have begun way back in 1975 TiberiusB Nov 2015 #74

1975 is the year referenced as being the 1st poll Gmak Nov 2015 #111

This message was self-deleted by its author FlatBaroque Nov 2015 #8

K & R AzDar Nov 2015 #9

Hillary voters are defeatists olddots Nov 2015 #10

I have been saying that since Spring AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #38

Kind of like Vichy France. YOHABLO Nov 2015 #94

2nd ref. for me to Clinton = Vichy. So interesting. Appreciated senz Nov 2015 #112

+1 JackInGreen Nov 2015 #109

I agree with a lot of this, but firebrand80 Nov 2015 #11

In 4-8 years it will be too late. The SCOTUS will be packed jwirr Nov 2015 #14

Too ture Plucketeer Nov 2015 #17

Agreed and will add that I forgot to say that Climate change jwirr Nov 2015 #19

Yeah but.... Plucketeer Nov 2015 #20

Underwater drilling will take on a new importance, since there will likely be more underwater... jtuck004 Nov 2015 #31

Agreed , even if Berine does not get kacekwl Nov 2015 #76

I think Bernie supporters should get rid of firebrand80 Nov 2015 #34

Wasn't if Hillary supporters who reminded us that the SCOTUS jwirr Nov 2015 #44

of course they're important firebrand80 Nov 2015 #48

Are you absolutely sure of that. I am not ready to take that jwirr Nov 2015 #51

Well, you better start preparing yourself firebrand80 Nov 2015 #52

You should probably be thinking about the same thing. And remember the band was heard jtuck004 Nov 2015 #58

You seem to write a lot of anti-Bernie comments. senz Nov 2015 #60

I don't have a dog in the fight firebrand80 Nov 2015 #81

I'm moving to Europe and starting an American resistance. Chan790 Nov 2015 #103

Interesting analogy, thanks. nt senz Nov 2015 #110

Not much of what BushCo did was undone. n/t cui bono Nov 2015 #68

That's your argument, for your candidate? delrem Nov 2015 #99

This is our last chance. The media is corporate. Our party is corporate. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #91

The survival of the globe and the nation are on a countdown clock. Chan790 Nov 2015 #102

Solid description of what's at stake. senz Nov 2015 #113

I find it fascinating chervilant Nov 2015 #25

+100. Thanks for stating my view, also. erronis Nov 2015 #28

It's just my honest opinion of him as a candidate firebrand80 Nov 2015 #40

If Bernie doesn't get the nomination senz Nov 2015 #61

I think the goal needs to move to the states. Chan790 Nov 2015 #104

I agree, but we must not give up on the presidency yet. senz Nov 2015 #114

So you agree with the article AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #37

No, I think that's a little over the top. firebrand80 Nov 2015 #45

Not with economic collapse and the brunt of climate change coming AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #46

No....Jesus Himself could run as a left/populist alternative and get smothered by the Machine Armstead Nov 2015 #63

Amen! n/t Oldtimeralso Nov 2015 #87

Two things: first what they are calling populism is nothing jwirr Nov 2015 #12

Exactly! whathehell Nov 2015 #18

Truth, Bro! Third Way, 'Republican Lite,' is a failed brand. LongTomH Nov 2015 #54

Its got to the point Go Vols Nov 2015 #69

Yes, that is one of the things that I am glad I am 74. I can jwirr Nov 2015 #84

Great post, Segami. Thanks for putting this together. Scuba Nov 2015 #13

Biggest joke: "An inequality based Democratic Party will doom Democrats" whathehell Nov 2015 #15

+1 mmonk Nov 2015 #16

True kenfrequed Nov 2015 #39

I agree. We need public funding of elections. n/t whathehell Nov 2015 #77

but the country is sooooo conservative! noiretextatique Nov 2015 #106

Yeah, that's crap, and, yes, too many voters do think "new democrats" are democrats whathehell Nov 2015 #107

The right wing is generally wrong about anything important. In this case, as is often the case, they GoneFishin Nov 2015 #21

K&R!!!! Phlem Nov 2015 #23

This is a MUST READ !!! Martin Eden Nov 2015 #24

Third Way + Fourth Estate = Fifth Column. nt Xipe Totec Nov 2015 #27

Excellent article. When will the third-wayers wake up? fbc Nov 2015 #29

bout time someone said it. PatrynXX Nov 2015 #30

And With New Dem HRC - The Collapse Will Only Accelerate cantbeserious Nov 2015 #32

A recipe for disaster Old Codger Nov 2015 #35

So anything that isn't Republican, is a disaster? AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #36

Democratic Party must go to its FDR policies for its survival, otherwise it's just an empty shell. Dont call me Shirley Nov 2015 #42

The Democratic Party Ended In 1992, After A 60 Year Run. NonMetro Nov 2015 #43

And like Bill she will work behind the scenes with the Rs jwirr Nov 2015 #47

it's never ceased to amaze me how many are either ignorant or in denial about that stupidicus Nov 2015 #79

Great post! raindaddy Nov 2015 #49

Fairness and equality are a "narrative" by Third Wayers now? merrily Nov 2015 #53

Good point, well-stated! Utopian Leftist Nov 2015 #66

Losing hope that either Party will make life better for them and their families is what merrily Nov 2015 #67

No More Third Way! SoapBox Nov 2015 #55

The Third Way has destroyed the Dem Party. Turning into Republican lite, losing over 10% sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #56

Giving This A Kick & Rec., But Will Come Back to Read All Later. n/t ChiciB1 Nov 2015 #57

Stop Attacking and Bashing Armstead Nov 2015 #62

Anyone who says extreme economic inequality is not a major problem for this country senz Nov 2015 #64

Third Way: Becoming a third party in a two-party system. Eleanors38 Nov 2015 #65

if only hollysmom Nov 2015 #90

K&R for truth Go Vols Nov 2015 #70

Do I need to say it? K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Nov 2015 #71

Even Bernie knows its TRUE. Segami Nov 2015 #75

You know it if your head isn't buried in the sand. Enthusiast Nov 2015 #101

This Is Pure Truth colsohlibgal Nov 2015 #72

Have you noticed that when articles are posted that are critical of 3rd Way, Hillary supporters Kip Humphrey Nov 2015 #73

K&R azmom Nov 2015 #78

k and r for the BIG truth. bbgrunt Nov 2015 #80

This article and its critique of the Third Way is absolutely accurate. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #82

The ONLY reason the "New Democrats" rose to power was because of voter apathy.... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2015 #83

Perfect CLIFF NOTEs version - Thank you! ReallyIAmAnOptimist Nov 2015 #86

K&R Paka Nov 2015 #88

Seems these Blue-dogs Madmiddle Nov 2015 #89

They like their big houses and fancy cars, perhaps throwing a bone to the poor every now and then. YOHABLO Nov 2015 #96

3rd way Hillary being shoved down our throats, convinced that workers still have too much freedom whereisjustice Nov 2015 #92

Does it bother anyone that Hillary Clinton's 4th largest campaign donor... CoffeeCat Nov 2015 #93

I mean really. Is she going to go after the hand that feeds her. I don't think so. YOHABLO Nov 2015 #95

'Bother' is a gross understatement Segami Nov 2015 #97

3rd-way and the Republicans they hold in such esteem are so yesterday. delrem Nov 2015 #98

"The Third Way authors are as misguided on policy as they are on politics" nxylas Nov 2015 #100

K&R What Wall St investors pay for, we live in. Well, try to at least. raouldukelives Nov 2015 #105

They definitely are getting nervous. And they should as the people get to know who they sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #108

HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Nov 2015 #115