2016 Postmortem

Fred Sanders

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14. Here are US military bases near Iran - how much does that cost?

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Why should we vote for anyone in the primaries if they refuse to shout about this great injustice? [View all] Fred Sanders Nov 2015 OP

Good point. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #1

you are aware that Clinton's policies supports the MIC far more than Sanders' ? ish of the hammer Nov 2015 #48

are you aware that is bullshit? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #53

Libya, no-fly zone Syria, Victoria Nuland Ukraine, any number of MIC related companies donating to ish of the hammer Nov 2015 #60

oh really? Here is the BIG picture the ACTUAL public record ....not your cute little list... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #62

Your list of "accomplishments" pretty much proves the poster's claim. Comrade Grumpy Nov 2015 #78

those are the actual record that does NOT prove that... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #85

Thanks- like someone already said - proves my point. ish of the hammer Nov 2015 #84

It does not.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #86

your "list" proves my point ish of the hammer Nov 2015 #89

bullshit....it does not... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #90

"cherry-picked" ish of the hammer Nov 2015 #91

Wow. A new version of "The List"! I'm impressed. cherokeeprogressive Nov 2015 #94

correct, vanillarhapsody SCantiGOP Nov 2015 #72

I am aware of the votes Sanders has made for military contractors, he continues to vote for the F-35 Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #63

Point to any evidence that Sanders will significantly cut that military percentage? brooklynite Nov 2015 #87

Wont happen, defense contractors love Sanders, he keep giving them more contracts. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #97

If we can't afford to educate our children, to heal our sick or care for our elderly ... Scuba Nov 2015 #2

It defends the assets of multinational corporations around the globe.. think Nov 2015 #3

Yep. It defends the interests of individual shareholders. raouldukelives Nov 2015 #105

I don't get it, why are the liberal candidates, top to bottom not talking about the military bloat? Fred Sanders Nov 2015 #5

Just 2 days ago: Senator Bernie Sanders Votes Against Increasing Defense Spending think Nov 2015 #13

Excellent! A good start on the talk.....now how about a 50% reduction, all going to domestic? Fred Sanders Nov 2015 #15

No argument here. Sanders would work hard to cut military spending. As to what percentage think Nov 2015 #23

Reducing the military will have to be a progression, an evolution and not a revolution. Fred Sanders Nov 2015 #29

In other words... Android3.14 Nov 2015 #79

I think it's because the military/security state is actually running the government. jalan48 Nov 2015 #18

nailed it. nt restorefreedom Nov 2015 #34

Ike's greatest worry as come true. (nt) paleotn Nov 2015 #49

And it is easy to hide fraud, waste, and price gouging in a system hidden behind a wall of national GoneFishin Nov 2015 #81

Exactly. tecelote Nov 2015 #101

Trick question? We're defending the rest of the world against itself! erronis Nov 2015 #21

+1 an entire shit load. Enthusiast Nov 2015 #55

Oh don't worry Hillary cares a LOT about our children, our sick, and our elderly... Still In Wisconsin Nov 2015 #75

Yet you support Clinton, Cassiopeia Nov 2015 #4

Sorry, this is 100% about The Pentagon and why no one is talking about The Pentagon, including Fred Sanders Nov 2015 #7

No, its about war, and the people that push it. bahrbearian Nov 2015 #11

who would that be? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #54

"We came , We saw, He died " Who said that. bahrbearian Nov 2015 #65

this proves your point how? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #67

Yea right , Hillary always promoted peace through War bahrbearian Nov 2015 #68

Oh she has? Record says otherwise.. VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #69

Yeah one candidate is talking about the Pentagon, Fred... Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #36

+1! Thanks. tecelote Nov 2015 #103

I glad you wrote this OP and am glad you're a Hillary supporter. tecelote Nov 2015 #104

China and Cuba send doctors, engineers and teachers everywhere instead of arms...and will win Fred Sanders Nov 2015 #111

Up is down, its crazy bahrbearian Nov 2015 #8

I agree with this, Fred... Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #6

In terms of percentage of GDP, Russia still outspends us. But in terms of real dollars...wow. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #9

Sanders is clearly against more military spending, but is he for drastically reducing it? Fred Sanders Nov 2015 #12

Facts speak for themselves: "Defense Industry Embraces Hillary By Far Their Favorite Dem." 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #20

Clinton is perhaps the lesser of three evils for MIC, but MIC must be getting nervous at all the Fred Sanders Nov 2015 #27

I don't think MIC will be nervous about Clintons leftist rhetoric until she returns their $$$$ 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #30

quick quiz question which candidate recently said they WOULD bomb Iran if.......? azurnoir Nov 2015 #107

It only shows that they believe she'll win the presidency. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #58

Yes, that's exactly what MIC endor$ement$ and Ca$h are doing: betting on their darling to win 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #61

EMPLOYEES are donating to her campaign. Not the Corporations themselves. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #71

I am very aware of CU's fig-leaf "arms length" bullshit legalese 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #74

So what you're saying is, corporations are people? Hello, Mitt. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #80

I love how slinging CT accusations distracts from your whole-hearted embrace of Citizens United 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #82

No, you're right...the Pentagon is not a sacred cow and Pentagon leadership have wanted to reduce. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #37

The same F-35 that Hillary promised to supply to Netanyahu when she was flexing muscle.. frylock Nov 2015 #50

Budget Amendment on Auditing the Pentagon Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #38

I read SmittynMo Nov 2015 #41

Another "Commission" to "study" the problem? bvar22 Nov 2015 #92

USA #1 firebrand80 Nov 2015 #10

Here are US military bases near Iran - how much does that cost? Fred Sanders Nov 2015 #14

Clinton Foundation Donors Got Weapons Deals From Hillary Clinton's State Department Ichingcarpenter Nov 2015 #16

This is a human rights issue, not a political issue and it does not need to be politicized to be Fred Sanders Nov 2015 #19

This is politics and your candidate promotes it Ichingcarpenter Nov 2015 #24

But it IS political dorkzilla Nov 2015 #25

Bingo SmittynMo Nov 2015 #44

Very good damn question! Why would we? lonestarnot Nov 2015 #17

News Flash: "Senator Bernie Sanders Votes Against Increasing Defense Spending" 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #22

And we wonder why are schools are crumbling, our infrastructure is obsolete, our water system is in in_cog_ni_to Nov 2015 #26

The WAR budget is where the fat cats make their money. valerief Nov 2015 #28

Sacred cows of the military and corporate fat cats. Now there is an image waiting for a metaphor! Fred Sanders Nov 2015 #32

Think what we could do with that money. n/t Comrade Grumpy Nov 2015 #31

Create a lot more jobs, for starters: Fred Sanders Nov 2015 #35

Thanks for bringing this up, Fred, with the Charts....Great Post! KoKo Nov 2015 #33

Well the IMC fed me and my neighbors, let my Dad buy a house, etc. Armstead Nov 2015 #39

Well, for one who says he is a political realist, isn't that a bit naive? malthaussen Nov 2015 #40

There were a couple articles discussing Bernie's calling out of the DoD.... n8dogg83 Nov 2015 #42

US military activity in Africa has been growing for some time yet is rarely discussed by MSM or Ford_Prefect Nov 2015 #43

This. Just part of why Qaddafi had to go. nt. polly7 Nov 2015 #59

That's why I support Bernie Sanders because he has been 'shouting' about it sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #45

Bernie does more than shout. He just voted against the "defense" spending bill. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2015 #46

He also proposed a war tax on the wealthiest too, hitting those that benefit from military spending cascadiance Nov 2015 #52

Shouting no.... daleanime Nov 2015 #47

Because presidential candidates who shout about the military lose? MohRokTah Nov 2015 #51

We are electing a government, Agnosticsherbet Nov 2015 #56

Good Post Fred. Thank you. And what ever happened to the peace dividend? LiberalArkie Nov 2015 #57

Tell a typical white American that most of the world is another color and they FREAK OUT.... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2015 #64

About that "great injustice" ConservativeDemocrat Nov 2015 #66

Wow. Your DU name is very well chosen. (nt) stone space Nov 2015 #88

Seems a conservative like yourself wouldn't want U.S. taxpayers to pay for it dreamnightwind Nov 2015 #93

I'm a conservative Democrat, not a conservative Republican ConservativeDemocrat Nov 2015 #96

Your logic, and worldview, are terrible dreamnightwind Nov 2015 #98

My logic, and worldview, is the dominant Democratic position ConservativeDemocrat Nov 2015 #99

The more you talk the worse you seem dreamnightwind Nov 2015 #100

Yay, another echo-chamber extremist ConservativeDemocrat Nov 2015 #110

K & R AzDar Nov 2015 #70

Ummmm... Skidmore Nov 2015 #73

That's for sure! PatrickforO Nov 2015 #76

That is sickening amuse bouche Nov 2015 #77

comparison to GDP rankings is interesting, definitely some room to come down yodermon Nov 2015 #83

Excellent, and one of the main reasons I support Bernie dreamnightwind Nov 2015 #95

Thanks for making this an issue! tecelote Nov 2015 #102

As an Anabaptist (Mennonite) Pacifist Dem_in_Nebr. Nov 2015 #106

Too many voters are fine with this treestar Nov 2015 #108

Kick to remember this thread... The_Commonist Nov 2015 #109

Imperialism costs a lot of money. N/t coyote Nov 2015 #112