2016 Postmortem

gordyfl

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66. Fossil Fuel Industry & Hillary Clinton

Thu Nov 12, 2015, 10:49 PM

Nov 2015

Meet the Fossil Fuel Lobbyists Raising Money for Hillary Clinton

Nearly all of the lobbyists bundling contributions for Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton's campaign have at one time or another worked for the fossil fuel industry.

The issue of campaign donations from fossil fuel interests has become a topic in the Democratic Party primary, as both Sen. Bernie Sanders and Martin O'Malley have pledged they will not accept contributions from oil, gas or coal companies. Clinton has not signed that pledge.

The more she flies, the more profits for her donors.

http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2015/07/hillary-clinton-bundlers-fossil-fuel-lobbyists

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Hillary hops on carbon-spewing private Learjet after winning endorsement from environmental group [View all] Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2015 OP

She's a Presidential candidate philosslayer Nov 2015 #1

Bernie flies coach tk2kewl Nov 2015 #34

Oh, just wow!!! She was in the air for all of what 30 minutes? nt kelliekat44 Nov 2015 #38

And that's the only time she flew on a private jet? tk2kewl Nov 2015 #45

The League of Conservation Voters Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2015 #73

Which is WORSE! Fawke Em Nov 2015 #81

why couldn't someone drive the distance, if it's that short? grasswire Nov 2015 #109

Fantastic point JackInGreen Nov 2015 #127

In a Prius - which emits negligible pollution. A Prius could be made bullet proof. in_cog_ni_to Nov 2015 #158

If you made Prius bullet proof it would be too heavy for doc03 Nov 2015 #191

and can you imagine the hassle for the other passengers? ronnykmarshall Nov 2015 #166

Republicans and Sanders supporters would be outraged if she flew coach? AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #190

This message was self-deleted by its author ronnykmarshall Nov 2015 #197

I just typed a response about this and realized I would be silenced if I posted it. randys1 Nov 2015 #178

Coach with everyone else JackInGreen Nov 2015 #126

So is Bernie UglyGreed Nov 2015 #164

Funny, it said he was watching The Bodyguard on video Armstead Nov 2015 #170

Duplicity Is As Duplicity Does cantbeserious Nov 2015 #2

so Sanders doesn't fly? bigtree Nov 2015 #3

Commercial Airlines Designed For The 99% - Not Private Jets Designed For The 1% cantbeserious Nov 2015 #5

that would be carbon spewing jets run by commercial airlines lol nt msongs Nov 2015 #7

Carbon Per Seat Mile Much Lower Than A Private Jet Designed For Oligarchs, Corporations And Banks cantbeserious Nov 2015 #8

so he's polluting less? bigtree Nov 2015 #20

Beats The Unnecessary Addition To Climate Change By The HRC Entourage cantbeserious Nov 2015 #24

Actually if he was taking public transportation it would be a good argument. Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #31

why does she need a larger entourage? grasswire Nov 2015 #110

Right now she has a secret service team by default... not sure why Bernie doesn't though Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #113

She has had Secret Service since 1992 rbrnmw Nov 2015 #205

That makes sense. Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #206

Thats some entourage (with 4 passengers and 2 crew) bahrbearian Nov 2015 #208

Commercial flights are going to fly regardless of who the passengers are Art_from_Ark Nov 2015 #154

not 'carbon-spewing?' bigtree Nov 2015 #13

No - One Is Making Both Arguments - HRC Is Guilty On Both Accounts cantbeserious Nov 2015 #21

the carbon per person is dramatically lower on commercial planes pipoman Nov 2015 #23

hypocrisy is giving Sanders a pass bigtree Nov 2015 #51

I haven't seen anyone deny that they need to travel pipoman Nov 2015 #96

But doesn't it "spew carbon" also? brush Nov 2015 #32

The amount of carbon being spewed PER PERSON is much less, and you know it. 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #36

It's worth mocking. Stick to real issues not repug-like talking points. brush Nov 2015 #41

Issues such as being a hypocrite when receiving the endorsement of LCV Rogue Democrat Nov 2015 #49

It's silly. If I may paraphrase Jay-Z: There are 99 ways to differentiate Sanders but this ain't one brush Nov 2015 #62

Give me a break. Since when do RePugs give a rats ass about carbon-spewing? 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #50

When it comes to Hillary that's when. brush Nov 2015 #55

Does that town even have a commercial airport? doc03 Nov 2015 #193

Does That Town Have Bus Terminal - Chances Are Yes cantbeserious Nov 2015 #194

Many small towns don't have either I haven't ever been there I don't know. That is something the doc03 Nov 2015 #196

If Not A Bus Terminal - Surely A Bus Stop cantbeserious Nov 2015 #203

Yes Sander flies commercial, on coach seats. 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #11

are they not 'carbon-spewing?' bigtree Nov 2015 #17

But one guy (and a few of his team) out of 236 is a big difference than a having your own jet Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #35

+100 nt 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #37

so he pollutes less, in this case, by flying commercial. Not exactly a badge of honor. bigtree Nov 2015 #46

It is ok to concede an inch sometimes. Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #115

Sanders either teleports or walks on water, depending on the weather. Hekate Nov 2015 #147

He could walk on water and Hillpack would scream "Bernie can't swim!" n/t in_cog_ni_to Nov 2015 #159

You need to contact the Secret Service with your concerns. ronnykmarshall Nov 2015 #4

I am stunned at this attack Evergreen Emerald Nov 2015 #6

Facts Are Facts - HRC Is A Member Of The 1% Establishment - And She Acts Like It cantbeserious Nov 2015 #9

I think this is the straw that broke the camels back for me Evergreen Emerald Nov 2015 #14

So Say You - Others See The World Much Differently cantbeserious Nov 2015 #19

Bullshit Evergreen Emerald Nov 2015 #26

My My - How We Have Sunk To Such Crass Language - Others Take The High Road - Too Sad cantbeserious Nov 2015 #29

There is no high road in this thread Evergreen Emerald Nov 2015 #33

It Is Tragic That Some Choose To Ignore Reality - One Is Truly Saddened By That Fact cantbeserious Nov 2015 #39

You have taken no high roads with your canned one liners. n/t JTFrog Nov 2015 #40

We See That A Sensitive Nerve Has Been Stimulated - Sad That Some Are Unable To See The Truth cantbeserious Nov 2015 #43

"We" see? ronnykmarshall Nov 2015 #185

Actually the article itself states that it's a RW attack Renew Deal Nov 2015 #97

Matters The Facts - Matters Not The Source cantbeserious Nov 2015 #103

The fact is that it's RW BS Renew Deal Nov 2015 #105

Using RW vile sources against a Democrat is WRONG and you know it. riversedge Nov 2015 #155

To paraphrase the previous posters other replies: ronnykmarshall Nov 2015 #187

I clearly remember the Republicans using this very same arguement against Gore Sheepshank Nov 2015 #28

not Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2015 #85

Of course it is....no point in denying the op Sheepshank Nov 2015 #89

No point in trying to change the narrative. It's obvious. Sheepshank Nov 2015 #92

Yes it is obvious RW tactics. DU used to be able to recognize shit like this: JTFrog Nov 2015 #174

Yeah! And don't forget about the outragis Nancy Pelosi Airplane Scandle! NBachers Nov 2015 #151

THIS post, typed over THAT graphic in your sig line, makes me guffaw like a fucking banshee. cherokeeprogressive Nov 2015 #107

She should have rode a mule Renew Deal Nov 2015 #56

How About Commercial - Like Bernie - One Suspects She Is Too Good To Sit With The Hoi Polloi cantbeserious Nov 2015 #61

A mule is more what all true Democrats should drive Renew Deal Nov 2015 #63

Maybe You Can Convince HRC To Lead By Example cantbeserious Nov 2015 #65

I thought all good examples only came from Bernie Renew Deal Nov 2015 #70

Bernie Already Demonstrates Leadership By Flying Commercial Coach cantbeserious Nov 2015 #80

No most likely rbrnmw Nov 2015 #207

It all sounds so familiar doesn't it? JTFrog Nov 2015 #148

Not an Attack - Recognition Of One 1% Member Conveying Themselves In 1% Chariots cantbeserious Nov 2015 #210

Or maybe not many practical options for a former first lady with lifetime secret service protection. JTFrog Nov 2015 #212

A Handy Excuse - One That Reinforces The Privileged Class To Which HRC Now Belongs cantbeserious Nov 2015 #213

And bernistas Cosmocat Nov 2015 #156

RW memes disguised as concern for the environment...it is laughably obvious. Fred Sanders Nov 2015 #201

Meanwhile, Bernie waits for his coach seat in the airport -nt- 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #10

He stays in motels Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2015 #16

as opposed to those 'carbon-spewing' hotels bigtree Nov 2015 #25

Seriously??? Thats all you got out of the comparison? darkangel218 Nov 2015 #30

motels vs. planes? bigtree Nov 2015 #52

Try a bit harder.. darkangel218 Nov 2015 #53

LOL! Oligarchs don't stay in Motel 6s Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2015 #67

who the fuck aspires to stay at a Motel 6? bigtree Nov 2015 #72

Where does O'Malley stay? Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2015 #76

who fucking cares? bigtree Nov 2015 #82

Those of us who care for the poor and middle class, darkangel218 Nov 2015 #95

this is a specious argument bigtree Nov 2015 #98

Those who don't care about money and luxury!!! darkangel218 Nov 2015 #93

it's little more than political theater bigtree Nov 2015 #101

Political theater??? darkangel218 Nov 2015 #102

it helps no one bigtree Nov 2015 #104

"Petty politics".. darkangel218 Nov 2015 #111

you're easily 'sickened' bigtree Nov 2015 #114

What you see as "attacks" on Mrs Clinton, coming from the left, are mostly if not entirely facts. darkangel218 Nov 2015 #116

another diversion bigtree Nov 2015 #119

I feel the same about you. darkangel218 Nov 2015 #120

can't bigtree Nov 2015 #68

Lol OK. darkangel218 Nov 2015 #69

+1 million!!! darkangel218 Nov 2015 #22

There is probably an even greater footprint LuvLoogie Nov 2015 #12

The 1% Taking Care Of Themselves cantbeserious Nov 2015 #211

"O K" DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #15

How typical of her. darkangel218 Nov 2015 #18

The expected foot stomping ronnykmarshall Nov 2015 #168

I'm absolutely positive the accompanying passengers would fully enjoy Sheepshank Nov 2015 #198

"Do as I say,not as I do" candidate. virgogal Nov 2015 #27

^^^ This ^^^ cantbeserious Nov 2015 #44

is she supposed to hitch hike to her next campaign stop? drray23 Nov 2015 #42

No. Use cheap commercial flights. darkangel218 Nov 2015 #54

You DO understand ... NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #137

Commercial flights are actually a lot safer. darkangel218 Nov 2015 #138

It has nothing to do with ... NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #140

Are you saying that the TSA are not doing their job right now?? darkangel218 Nov 2015 #141

I posted all of the reasons above. NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #142

Extra security . it can all be done on commercial jets. darkangel218 Nov 2015 #143

You really DON'T GET IT ... NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #144

Lmao!!!!! darkangel218 Nov 2015 #157

That would be a no mythology Nov 2015 #172

It's like talking to a kid throwing a tantrum. ronnykmarshall Nov 2015 #167

I'm still trying to wrap my head around the fact ... NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #175

I never knew we has so many security experts in here. ronnykmarshall Nov 2015 #200

Yep, this is just like treestar Nov 2015 #161

are you going to tell us your plans ronnykmarshall Nov 2015 #169

How do you know whether she'd be on time if she went commercial? yeoman6987 Nov 2015 #199

Bernie manages it just fine. darkangel218 Nov 2015 #202

Perhaps she is busier since she is front runner. I don't know but this is such a little thing yeoman6987 Nov 2015 #204

No, she should ride a donkey Renew Deal Nov 2015 #59

I must say ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #47

Yup- I got a laugh out loud over St. Bernie of Burlington NBachers Nov 2015 #153

Apparently Hillary's campaign ... NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #48

Does Bernie ride unicorns? Metric System Nov 2015 #57

No. Bernie is riding coach in commercial flights!! darkangel218 Nov 2015 #60

Bernie's frugal gordyfl Nov 2015 #87

Same here. darkangel218 Nov 2015 #91

Reminds me of Jimmy Carter Art_from_Ark Nov 2015 #130

Unlikely, okasha Nov 2015 #129

Yep! pinstikfartherin Nov 2015 #133

Change "Hillary" to "Gore" and it's like I'm Codeine Nov 2015 #58

+a million tammywammy Nov 2015 #121

^^this^^ n/t JTFrog Nov 2015 #150

1/2 ton per hour not 2 tons Blues Heron Nov 2015 #64

0.5 tones per hour of unnecessary pollutant, darkangel218 Nov 2015 #74

I don't know! I'm just a fact checker! n/t Blues Heron Nov 2015 #77

Well then. darkangel218 Nov 2015 #83

I never mind a fact-check. JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #99

It would be a bit difficult okasha Nov 2015 #131

Fossil Fuel Industry & Hillary Clinton gordyfl Nov 2015 #66

What Happened To That Little Van She Was In The First Week Of Her Campaign ??? WillyT Nov 2015 #71

And Obama is flying around on Air Force One. BlueCheese Nov 2015 #75

and Bernie aspires to do the same bigtree Nov 2015 #79

Let Hillary be Hillary. Fawke Em Nov 2015 #78

Looks like some people here are the tools of a "conservative opposition research group" Renew Deal Nov 2015 #84

nice try Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2015 #86

It's a RW attack and you fell for it. Renew Deal Nov 2015 #88

or using the orchestrated conservative attack as a stepstool bigtree Nov 2015 #90

Tools is the perfect word GusBob Nov 2015 #106

She could have flown commercial Rogue Democrat Nov 2015 #94

I knew that this came from the RW Daily Mail before I even read the article. Beacool Nov 2015 #100

It's worse than that GusBob Nov 2015 #108

Yes, I saw it. Beacool Nov 2015 #118

Al Gore has a big house!!! Bleacher Creature Nov 2015 #112

He's not running anymore. darkangel218 Nov 2015 #117

Huh? Try Google if you don't get it. Bleacher Creature Nov 2015 #123

I care not to Google crap from the past. darkangel218 Nov 2015 #124

Isn't the Daily Mail one of Rupert Murdoch's rags? Hekate Nov 2015 #146

I get why top presidential candidates fly private, but Hillary is royalty,she files like that always Cheese Sandwich Nov 2015 #122

optics? bigtree Nov 2015 #125

Celebrities, the 1%, and politicians think they can use all the carbon they want davidn3600 Nov 2015 #128

+ 1 million darkangel218 Nov 2015 #132

Yep. And their sycophants will tear you apart for mentioning it. nt Romulox Nov 2015 #192

Hello, we're trying to win here. She's focused on more impotant issues. oasis Nov 2015 #134

Issues more important than climate change? davidn3600 Nov 2015 #149

You wanted her to do what? Ride on a broom? Hitch a ride? McCamy Taylor Nov 2015 #135

This thread smacks of desperation. McCamy Taylor Nov 2015 #136

Only in your mind. nt. darkangel218 Nov 2015 #139

The horror, the horror. Hekate Nov 2015 #145

The environment is obviously not a priority for Hillary. Live and Learn Nov 2015 #152

Who gives a shit? treestar Nov 2015 #160

I would expect to see this on FreeRepublic. yardwork Nov 2015 #162

Yup, disgusting to see RW crap being spread around DU. n/t FSogol Nov 2015 #165

Oh, for pity's sake! MineralMan Nov 2015 #163

The Combustible Hair Club again demonstrating its inability to focus on ... JoePhilly Nov 2015 #171

Bumper sticker campaing slogan: If You Got It Flaunt It Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2015 #173

I am a Bernie supporter, but this just feels like a straw man argument. jmondine Nov 2015 #176

I KNOW I saw this on a rightwing board today randys1 Nov 2015 #177

Judging by the shit I've seen here lately it's hard to tell the difference. giftedgirl77 Nov 2015 #180

That is the point, of course. randys1 Nov 2015 #181

Lolololololol, be careful what you say the perpetual victims giftedgirl77 Nov 2015 #184

Haters, this shit is getting really stupid. giftedgirl77 Nov 2015 #179

Oh it's going get worse ronnykmarshall Nov 2015 #183

Absolutely rediculous. This place is turning into a joke. giftedgirl77 Nov 2015 #186

She "evolved" on the issue after collecting the endorsement. nt Romulox Nov 2015 #182

Yep AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #189

203 gallons of jet fuel per hour AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #188

Big deal! Petty as petty can be. demosincebirth Nov 2015 #195

LOL! Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2015 #209

Shame on her for not taking a solar-powered jst DFW Nov 2015 #214

So, why the double standard against Hillary Clinton? ProudToBeLiberal Jan 2016 #215