2016 Postmortem

darkangel218

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116. What you see as "attacks" on Mrs Clinton, coming from the left, are mostly if not entirely facts.

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Thu Nov 12, 2015, 11:42 PM

Nov 2015

I like facts and the truth to prevail above politicians getting rich and/or favoring the 1%. Do you not?

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Hillary hops on carbon-spewing private Learjet after winning endorsement from environmental group [View all] Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2015 OP

She's a Presidential candidate philosslayer Nov 2015 #1

Bernie flies coach tk2kewl Nov 2015 #34

Oh, just wow!!! She was in the air for all of what 30 minutes? nt kelliekat44 Nov 2015 #38

And that's the only time she flew on a private jet? tk2kewl Nov 2015 #45

The League of Conservation Voters Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2015 #73

Which is WORSE! Fawke Em Nov 2015 #81

why couldn't someone drive the distance, if it's that short? grasswire Nov 2015 #109

Fantastic point JackInGreen Nov 2015 #127

In a Prius - which emits negligible pollution. A Prius could be made bullet proof. in_cog_ni_to Nov 2015 #158

If you made Prius bullet proof it would be too heavy for doc03 Nov 2015 #191

and can you imagine the hassle for the other passengers? ronnykmarshall Nov 2015 #166

Republicans and Sanders supporters would be outraged if she flew coach? AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #190

This message was self-deleted by its author ronnykmarshall Nov 2015 #197

I just typed a response about this and realized I would be silenced if I posted it. randys1 Nov 2015 #178

Coach with everyone else JackInGreen Nov 2015 #126

So is Bernie UglyGreed Nov 2015 #164

Funny, it said he was watching The Bodyguard on video Armstead Nov 2015 #170

Duplicity Is As Duplicity Does cantbeserious Nov 2015 #2

so Sanders doesn't fly? bigtree Nov 2015 #3

Commercial Airlines Designed For The 99% - Not Private Jets Designed For The 1% cantbeserious Nov 2015 #5

that would be carbon spewing jets run by commercial airlines lol nt msongs Nov 2015 #7

Carbon Per Seat Mile Much Lower Than A Private Jet Designed For Oligarchs, Corporations And Banks cantbeserious Nov 2015 #8

so he's polluting less? bigtree Nov 2015 #20

Beats The Unnecessary Addition To Climate Change By The HRC Entourage cantbeserious Nov 2015 #24

Actually if he was taking public transportation it would be a good argument. Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #31

why does she need a larger entourage? grasswire Nov 2015 #110

Right now she has a secret service team by default... not sure why Bernie doesn't though Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #113

She has had Secret Service since 1992 rbrnmw Nov 2015 #205

That makes sense. Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #206

Thats some entourage (with 4 passengers and 2 crew) bahrbearian Nov 2015 #208

Commercial flights are going to fly regardless of who the passengers are Art_from_Ark Nov 2015 #154

not 'carbon-spewing?' bigtree Nov 2015 #13

No - One Is Making Both Arguments - HRC Is Guilty On Both Accounts cantbeserious Nov 2015 #21

the carbon per person is dramatically lower on commercial planes pipoman Nov 2015 #23

hypocrisy is giving Sanders a pass bigtree Nov 2015 #51

I haven't seen anyone deny that they need to travel pipoman Nov 2015 #96

But doesn't it "spew carbon" also? brush Nov 2015 #32

The amount of carbon being spewed PER PERSON is much less, and you know it. 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #36

It's worth mocking. Stick to real issues not repug-like talking points. brush Nov 2015 #41

Issues such as being a hypocrite when receiving the endorsement of LCV Rogue Democrat Nov 2015 #49

It's silly. If I may paraphrase Jay-Z: There are 99 ways to differentiate Sanders but this ain't one brush Nov 2015 #62

Give me a break. Since when do RePugs give a rats ass about carbon-spewing? 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #50

When it comes to Hillary that's when. brush Nov 2015 #55

Does that town even have a commercial airport? doc03 Nov 2015 #193

Does That Town Have Bus Terminal - Chances Are Yes cantbeserious Nov 2015 #194

Many small towns don't have either I haven't ever been there I don't know. That is something the doc03 Nov 2015 #196

If Not A Bus Terminal - Surely A Bus Stop cantbeserious Nov 2015 #203

Yes Sander flies commercial, on coach seats. 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #11

are they not 'carbon-spewing?' bigtree Nov 2015 #17

But one guy (and a few of his team) out of 236 is a big difference than a having your own jet Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #35

+100 nt 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #37

so he pollutes less, in this case, by flying commercial. Not exactly a badge of honor. bigtree Nov 2015 #46

It is ok to concede an inch sometimes. Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #115

Sanders either teleports or walks on water, depending on the weather. Hekate Nov 2015 #147

He could walk on water and Hillpack would scream "Bernie can't swim!" n/t in_cog_ni_to Nov 2015 #159

You need to contact the Secret Service with your concerns. ronnykmarshall Nov 2015 #4

I am stunned at this attack Evergreen Emerald Nov 2015 #6

Facts Are Facts - HRC Is A Member Of The 1% Establishment - And She Acts Like It cantbeserious Nov 2015 #9

I think this is the straw that broke the camels back for me Evergreen Emerald Nov 2015 #14

So Say You - Others See The World Much Differently cantbeserious Nov 2015 #19

Bullshit Evergreen Emerald Nov 2015 #26

My My - How We Have Sunk To Such Crass Language - Others Take The High Road - Too Sad cantbeserious Nov 2015 #29

There is no high road in this thread Evergreen Emerald Nov 2015 #33

It Is Tragic That Some Choose To Ignore Reality - One Is Truly Saddened By That Fact cantbeserious Nov 2015 #39

You have taken no high roads with your canned one liners. n/t JTFrog Nov 2015 #40

We See That A Sensitive Nerve Has Been Stimulated - Sad That Some Are Unable To See The Truth cantbeserious Nov 2015 #43

"We" see? ronnykmarshall Nov 2015 #185

Actually the article itself states that it's a RW attack Renew Deal Nov 2015 #97

Matters The Facts - Matters Not The Source cantbeserious Nov 2015 #103

The fact is that it's RW BS Renew Deal Nov 2015 #105

Using RW vile sources against a Democrat is WRONG and you know it. riversedge Nov 2015 #155

To paraphrase the previous posters other replies: ronnykmarshall Nov 2015 #187

I clearly remember the Republicans using this very same arguement against Gore Sheepshank Nov 2015 #28

not Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2015 #85

Of course it is....no point in denying the op Sheepshank Nov 2015 #89

No point in trying to change the narrative. It's obvious. Sheepshank Nov 2015 #92

Yes it is obvious RW tactics. DU used to be able to recognize shit like this: JTFrog Nov 2015 #174

Yeah! And don't forget about the outragis Nancy Pelosi Airplane Scandle! NBachers Nov 2015 #151

THIS post, typed over THAT graphic in your sig line, makes me guffaw like a fucking banshee. cherokeeprogressive Nov 2015 #107

She should have rode a mule Renew Deal Nov 2015 #56

How About Commercial - Like Bernie - One Suspects She Is Too Good To Sit With The Hoi Polloi cantbeserious Nov 2015 #61

A mule is more what all true Democrats should drive Renew Deal Nov 2015 #63

Maybe You Can Convince HRC To Lead By Example cantbeserious Nov 2015 #65

I thought all good examples only came from Bernie Renew Deal Nov 2015 #70

Bernie Already Demonstrates Leadership By Flying Commercial Coach cantbeserious Nov 2015 #80

No most likely rbrnmw Nov 2015 #207

It all sounds so familiar doesn't it? JTFrog Nov 2015 #148

Not an Attack - Recognition Of One 1% Member Conveying Themselves In 1% Chariots cantbeserious Nov 2015 #210

Or maybe not many practical options for a former first lady with lifetime secret service protection. JTFrog Nov 2015 #212

A Handy Excuse - One That Reinforces The Privileged Class To Which HRC Now Belongs cantbeserious Nov 2015 #213

And bernistas Cosmocat Nov 2015 #156

RW memes disguised as concern for the environment...it is laughably obvious. Fred Sanders Nov 2015 #201

Meanwhile, Bernie waits for his coach seat in the airport -nt- 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #10

He stays in motels Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2015 #16

as opposed to those 'carbon-spewing' hotels bigtree Nov 2015 #25

Seriously??? Thats all you got out of the comparison? darkangel218 Nov 2015 #30

motels vs. planes? bigtree Nov 2015 #52

Try a bit harder.. darkangel218 Nov 2015 #53

LOL! Oligarchs don't stay in Motel 6s Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2015 #67

who the fuck aspires to stay at a Motel 6? bigtree Nov 2015 #72

Where does O'Malley stay? Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2015 #76

who fucking cares? bigtree Nov 2015 #82

Those of us who care for the poor and middle class, darkangel218 Nov 2015 #95

this is a specious argument bigtree Nov 2015 #98

Those who don't care about money and luxury!!! darkangel218 Nov 2015 #93

it's little more than political theater bigtree Nov 2015 #101

Political theater??? darkangel218 Nov 2015 #102

it helps no one bigtree Nov 2015 #104

"Petty politics".. darkangel218 Nov 2015 #111

you're easily 'sickened' bigtree Nov 2015 #114

What you see as "attacks" on Mrs Clinton, coming from the left, are mostly if not entirely facts. darkangel218 Nov 2015 #116

another diversion bigtree Nov 2015 #119

I feel the same about you. darkangel218 Nov 2015 #120

can't bigtree Nov 2015 #68

Lol OK. darkangel218 Nov 2015 #69

+1 million!!! darkangel218 Nov 2015 #22

There is probably an even greater footprint LuvLoogie Nov 2015 #12

The 1% Taking Care Of Themselves cantbeserious Nov 2015 #211

"O K" DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #15

How typical of her. darkangel218 Nov 2015 #18

The expected foot stomping ronnykmarshall Nov 2015 #168

I'm absolutely positive the accompanying passengers would fully enjoy Sheepshank Nov 2015 #198

"Do as I say,not as I do" candidate. virgogal Nov 2015 #27

^^^ This ^^^ cantbeserious Nov 2015 #44

is she supposed to hitch hike to her next campaign stop? drray23 Nov 2015 #42

No. Use cheap commercial flights. darkangel218 Nov 2015 #54

You DO understand ... NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #137

Commercial flights are actually a lot safer. darkangel218 Nov 2015 #138

It has nothing to do with ... NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #140

Are you saying that the TSA are not doing their job right now?? darkangel218 Nov 2015 #141

I posted all of the reasons above. NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #142

Extra security . it can all be done on commercial jets. darkangel218 Nov 2015 #143

You really DON'T GET IT ... NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #144

Lmao!!!!! darkangel218 Nov 2015 #157

That would be a no mythology Nov 2015 #172

It's like talking to a kid throwing a tantrum. ronnykmarshall Nov 2015 #167

I'm still trying to wrap my head around the fact ... NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #175

I never knew we has so many security experts in here. ronnykmarshall Nov 2015 #200

Yep, this is just like treestar Nov 2015 #161

are you going to tell us your plans ronnykmarshall Nov 2015 #169

How do you know whether she'd be on time if she went commercial? yeoman6987 Nov 2015 #199

Bernie manages it just fine. darkangel218 Nov 2015 #202

Perhaps she is busier since she is front runner. I don't know but this is such a little thing yeoman6987 Nov 2015 #204

No, she should ride a donkey Renew Deal Nov 2015 #59

I must say ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #47

Yup- I got a laugh out loud over St. Bernie of Burlington NBachers Nov 2015 #153

Apparently Hillary's campaign ... NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #48

Does Bernie ride unicorns? Metric System Nov 2015 #57

No. Bernie is riding coach in commercial flights!! darkangel218 Nov 2015 #60

Bernie's frugal gordyfl Nov 2015 #87

Same here. darkangel218 Nov 2015 #91

Reminds me of Jimmy Carter Art_from_Ark Nov 2015 #130

Unlikely, okasha Nov 2015 #129

Yep! pinstikfartherin Nov 2015 #133

Change "Hillary" to "Gore" and it's like I'm Codeine Nov 2015 #58

+a million tammywammy Nov 2015 #121

^^this^^ n/t JTFrog Nov 2015 #150

1/2 ton per hour not 2 tons Blues Heron Nov 2015 #64

0.5 tones per hour of unnecessary pollutant, darkangel218 Nov 2015 #74

I don't know! I'm just a fact checker! n/t Blues Heron Nov 2015 #77

Well then. darkangel218 Nov 2015 #83

I never mind a fact-check. JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #99

It would be a bit difficult okasha Nov 2015 #131

Fossil Fuel Industry & Hillary Clinton gordyfl Nov 2015 #66

What Happened To That Little Van She Was In The First Week Of Her Campaign ??? WillyT Nov 2015 #71

And Obama is flying around on Air Force One. BlueCheese Nov 2015 #75

and Bernie aspires to do the same bigtree Nov 2015 #79

Let Hillary be Hillary. Fawke Em Nov 2015 #78

Looks like some people here are the tools of a "conservative opposition research group" Renew Deal Nov 2015 #84

nice try Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2015 #86

It's a RW attack and you fell for it. Renew Deal Nov 2015 #88

or using the orchestrated conservative attack as a stepstool bigtree Nov 2015 #90

Tools is the perfect word GusBob Nov 2015 #106

She could have flown commercial Rogue Democrat Nov 2015 #94

I knew that this came from the RW Daily Mail before I even read the article. Beacool Nov 2015 #100

It's worse than that GusBob Nov 2015 #108

Yes, I saw it. Beacool Nov 2015 #118

Al Gore has a big house!!! Bleacher Creature Nov 2015 #112

He's not running anymore. darkangel218 Nov 2015 #117

Huh? Try Google if you don't get it. Bleacher Creature Nov 2015 #123

I care not to Google crap from the past. darkangel218 Nov 2015 #124

Isn't the Daily Mail one of Rupert Murdoch's rags? Hekate Nov 2015 #146

I get why top presidential candidates fly private, but Hillary is royalty,she files like that always Cheese Sandwich Nov 2015 #122

optics? bigtree Nov 2015 #125

Celebrities, the 1%, and politicians think they can use all the carbon they want davidn3600 Nov 2015 #128

+ 1 million darkangel218 Nov 2015 #132

Yep. And their sycophants will tear you apart for mentioning it. nt Romulox Nov 2015 #192

Hello, we're trying to win here. She's focused on more impotant issues. oasis Nov 2015 #134

Issues more important than climate change? davidn3600 Nov 2015 #149

You wanted her to do what? Ride on a broom? Hitch a ride? McCamy Taylor Nov 2015 #135

This thread smacks of desperation. McCamy Taylor Nov 2015 #136

Only in your mind. nt. darkangel218 Nov 2015 #139

The horror, the horror. Hekate Nov 2015 #145

The environment is obviously not a priority for Hillary. Live and Learn Nov 2015 #152

Who gives a shit? treestar Nov 2015 #160

I would expect to see this on FreeRepublic. yardwork Nov 2015 #162

Yup, disgusting to see RW crap being spread around DU. n/t FSogol Nov 2015 #165

Oh, for pity's sake! MineralMan Nov 2015 #163

The Combustible Hair Club again demonstrating its inability to focus on ... JoePhilly Nov 2015 #171

Bumper sticker campaing slogan: If You Got It Flaunt It Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2015 #173

I am a Bernie supporter, but this just feels like a straw man argument. jmondine Nov 2015 #176

I KNOW I saw this on a rightwing board today randys1 Nov 2015 #177

Judging by the shit I've seen here lately it's hard to tell the difference. giftedgirl77 Nov 2015 #180

That is the point, of course. randys1 Nov 2015 #181

Lolololololol, be careful what you say the perpetual victims giftedgirl77 Nov 2015 #184

Haters, this shit is getting really stupid. giftedgirl77 Nov 2015 #179

Oh it's going get worse ronnykmarshall Nov 2015 #183

Absolutely rediculous. This place is turning into a joke. giftedgirl77 Nov 2015 #186

She "evolved" on the issue after collecting the endorsement. nt Romulox Nov 2015 #182

Yep AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #189

203 gallons of jet fuel per hour AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #188

Big deal! Petty as petty can be. demosincebirth Nov 2015 #195

LOL! Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2015 #209

Shame on her for not taking a solar-powered jst DFW Nov 2015 #214

So, why the double standard against Hillary Clinton? ProudToBeLiberal Jan 2016 #215