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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Is there a "McGovern effect" influencing the Democratic primary? [View all]Chitown Kev
(2,197 posts)25. One factor that you miss with Dukakis
was the LGBT vote...there are no definitive numbers on what the LGBT vote was in 1988 but the estimates that I've read (in Virtual Equality by Urvashi Vaid) were that Bush 41 may have won as much as 40% of the LGBT vote. Here's why.
An attempt by Massachusetts Gov. Michael S. Dukakis to mend troubled relations with the gay community was met Saturday with occasional hisses and boos at a public meeting that turned into a critique of the candidate's gay rights positions.
Dukakis stuck tenaciously to his views during the tense half-hour session, finally defending the Massachusetts policy that gives homosexual couples less chance to become foster parents than heterosexuals by declaring: "There is no civil right to be a foster parent."
Many in the crowd at Los Angeles' Four Seasons Hotel then hissed with displeasure, and some responded with applause when a heckler called the presidential candidate a "bigot" and "anti-gay."
The audience also appeared dismayed by Dukakis' declaration that he would not issue an executive order banning discrimination on the basis of sexual preference if he were elected President. Dukakis contended that such discrimination already is barred by the Constitution.
http://articles.latimes.com/1988-05-15/news/mn-4425_1_gay-community
Obama gets from 70% to 77% of the LGBT vote in his 2 elections.
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The McGovern debacle has affected every Democratic nomination process for 43 years.
MohRokTah
Nov 2015
#3
I voted for McGovern in '72 and would do so again. If Bernie is nominated I will vote for him.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Nov 2015
#4
Not only a popular incumbent, but a war time popular incumbent. Americans have never
merrily
Nov 2015
#29
Democrats have been brainwashed into fearing liberals as part of the DLC-ization of the Party.
merrily
Nov 2015
#30
McGovern v. Nixon is as relevant to the 2016 election as Al Smith v. Herbert Hoover was to '72.
Warren DeMontague
Nov 2015
#14
Or it could be that older voters are just more politically "wise", '72 being a slice of that
Persondem
Nov 2015
#17
The superdelegates were introduced to prevent another McGovern from losing 49 states
jfern
Nov 2015
#22
I have made a number of posts on "the McGovern lost because he was liberal" meme.
merrily
Nov 2015
#27