2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Why should we vote for anyone in the primaries if they refuse to shout about this great injustice? [View all]ConservativeDemocrat
(2,720 posts)Do you seriously think that Democrats (outside of a handful of emerald-blue ivory tower type college towns) are anti-US military? I mean yes, this is indeed the Republican caricature of Democrats: pot-smoking half naked professors of basket weaving, who protest barefoot in the park, shouting nonsensical 1960s communist slogans while screaming about the army, but let me assure you that that's not what makes up the actual Democratic party.
I've posted this chart on the D.U. so many times, I'm wondering if it should be in my signature line, but just for you, Mr. "Very Liberal", please be aware that your logic, your worldview, represent 10% of the party. While us "Conservative" Democrats consist of 16% of the party.

Hell, even Senator Sanders, the banner waving poster child for the left wing of the Democratic party, is completely rational about US drones - by which I mean, he's all in favor of using them.
Just for your information, the number of worldwide deaths by war per year are down dramatically, even counting the Syrian conflict, which (let me remind you) we're NOT in. Like any negative nationalist, you clearly want to blame America first for the Middle East, but let me also explain, using simple words, that the Middle East is still a bunch of tribes no more than one generation removed from medieval culture. This includes still having sovereign kings claiming religious mandates from God (Allah) as their divine right to rule. Call them the 0.0000001% What's worse, is that in comparison to the opposition - they're by far the "liberal good guys".
There is so much instability in the Middle East because it has never been stable. Strong men like Saddam were able to put a veneer of stability over fundamentally ungovernable regions of it, but only because most people didn't pay much attention when he was dropping poison gas on rival tribes to do so. Add to this civil wars, not just between Sunni and Shia, but also between reformists and fundamentalists in both sects, plus all the ethnic tensions of Levantines, Kurds, Turkomans, Alawites, Druze, Iranians, etc., and you have the perfect recipe for continuing strife that has nothing to do with us. Let me repeat that again, slowly. Sometimes it isn't all about us. Really. I know you want to think it's about you, and what you think about some decade-ago-disbanded think tank's policy, but it isn't.
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