2016 Postmortem

DemocratSinceBirth

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11. It seems a pretty straight forward finding.

Fri Nov 13, 2015, 08:41 AM

Nov 2015

Sixty-two percent of Democratic primary voters think Clinton, the current Democratic front runner who served in the Obama administration for four years, could bring about real change in the way things are done in Washington. Fifty-one percent half think Sanders could do the same.

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Poll: Hillary Clinton bests Sanders as the Democrats' "change" candidate [View all] DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 OP

any of these subtopic polls needed to be weighted vs who those polled support in the first place Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #1

Lalalalala VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #2

I am fully aware Clinton is leading by a large margin the polls Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #4

What poll am I denying? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #10

BUT, about this poll, the respondents may actually Hortensis Nov 2015 #103

Yeah...he has 2 claims to fame VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #104

Better than wrongly voting for war and representing the interests of the credit card companies JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #125

But the statement is that the people polled believe HRC would Hortensis Nov 2015 #130

Would you please ask my interlocutor DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #8

Go patronize someone else. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #5

Do you accept my premise? Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #7

It seems a pretty straight forward finding. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #11

Then you don't really understand what I am trying to say? Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #13

I will respond after you respond to Post #8 DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #15

So you can't just respond to my premise without me giving you a CV? Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #18

Only DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #22

So you don't understand my premise then? Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #24

I don't think YOU understand your premise... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #25

So you understand it but don't want to directly respond to it? Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #26

waiting to hear how YOU understand it... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #27

So you don't agree with DSB my premise is self evident? Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #30

Do you? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #32

He's patronizing you as well, now. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #53

I know.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #56

It is an interesting dynamic... DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #61

You patronized me right out of the box... DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #28

So you do understand but just don't want to respond and would rather make ad hominem attacks? Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #33

Your first response to me was an ad hominem attack when you patronized me , remember? DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #34

Do you not believe I was being earnest? Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #39

I believe you were trying to be patronizing. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #44

I am sorry you were offended. I apologize. Would you like to respond to my premise now? Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #55

Democratic primary voters believe Hilary is more likely to bring about change if elected president DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #57

I have given you plenty of opportunities to truly respond, why don't you? Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #58

Asked and answered. This thread is really causing you consternation, isn't it? DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #59

Do you think you actually provided a real honest response to the premise? Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #62

Veracity is my calling card./nt DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #64

I feel you are just squirming around something you don't want to admit. Why? Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #67

Admit what...My inference is that Dems believe Hillary is more likely to get things done. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #70

Why don't you just answer the question? Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #73

Which question? DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #76

Why do you avoid addressing the original premise and keep squirming around? Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #77

I answered your question. Do you have another one? DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #78

Do you think just copying and pasting what you already wrote adequate discussion? Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #83

I answered all your questions. Now you are just badgering me. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #84

Are you uncomfortable with me asking questions? Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #86

Not necessarily.. It is kind of entertaining to watch you try to get an alterable response. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #91

I just thought you liked the attention, love. Do you want me to stop? Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #93

Veracity is my calling card. I like to see my threads at the top of the page. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #94

Hopefully for the right reasons? Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #97

Any reason... Any publicity for my brand is good publicity. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #99

Your brand? Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #102

Like Apple, Microsoft, and starbucks DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #105

So you have a brand here in DU? A brand? Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #106

Like NIKE, Adidas, and New Balance DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #108

Do you realize that sounds a wee bit arrogant? Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #110

Like Oprah and Ellen DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #112

You sound silly are you being serious? Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #114

Like LeBron James, Michael Jordan, and Magic Johnson DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #116

Pot meets kettle! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #35

Who would have thought this thread would be the source of such consternation ? DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #46

Oh yeah.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #48

When they feign ignorance AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #138

Apparently. Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #140

It's also missing a margin of error, which given the small sample size would be rather large. Bubzer Nov 2015 #100

Of course she bests him on CHANGE, it's what Camp Weathervane is best known for! peacebird Nov 2015 #3

This ^^^^^ Art_from_Ark Nov 2015 #9

Thank you for your input and may the rest of your life be the best of your life. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #12

And yours as well! peacebird Nov 2015 #14

Perhaps unlike him.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #29

That chart is so fucking funny. Dawgs Nov 2015 #42

.... RiverLover Nov 2015 #45

My favorite part is the mirror-image pictures. NBachers Nov 2015 #92

That's about the limit of the anti Hillary memes isn't it. Corporatist and war hawk and weathervane upaloopa Nov 2015 #51

I could go with "we came, we saw, he died", or sniper fire at the airport if you prefer? peacebird Nov 2015 #52

What you call memes I call facts. If you think they're not true, please provide evidence. Bubzer Nov 2015 #98

That is so like right wing tactics upaloopa Nov 2015 #117

You're deflecting. Do you have evidence to the contrary or not? Bubzer Nov 2015 #118

There is no need to expect people to play your games upaloopa Nov 2015 #128

Expecting a reasonable level of proof before accepting a challenged statment is a game? Bubzer Nov 2015 #129

Look if you come here and make a bull shit statement upaloopa Nov 2015 #131

We're not talking about sombody else. The statement was directed at YOU... Because YOU posted BS. Bubzer Nov 2015 #132

The GOP will bring change BainsBane Nov 2015 #142

Polling Democratic Party voters just shows mmonk Nov 2015 #6

While I agree with your premise about Bernie's BlueMTexpat Nov 2015 #19

Being able to implement and being willing to implement are two quite different things Fumesucker Nov 2015 #20

It's his demeanor. NurseJackie Nov 2015 #23

Do you think his demeanor is rubbing off on his supporters, Nurse Jackie? DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #49

Hmmm.... I don't think Bernie's demeanor is "rubbing-off". Instead � NurseJackie Nov 2015 #121

"(PS: Don't let them get to you. I think you're great.) <3 " DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #124

Now it's Bernie's "Demeanor".... LovingA2andMI Nov 2015 #66

Not just "now" ... ALWAYS. That's been the biggest thing that has always turned me off about him. NurseJackie Nov 2015 #87

Thank you. justhanginon Nov 2015 #69

Age Discrimination Much.... LovingA2andMI Nov 2015 #79

I'm 79 years old and still, hopefully, have at least some semblance justhanginon Nov 2015 #85

Hypersensitive much? NurseJackie Nov 2015 #89

Jumping in on a thread that did not include you in the conversation much? LovingA2andMI Nov 2015 #109

"Private" conversations should be by email or NurseJackie Nov 2015 #111

Post removed Post removed Nov 2015 #126

PS: By the way. Look upthread. It was YOU who responded to ME, originally. (Remember?) NurseJackie Nov 2015 #122

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service Freddie Stubbs Nov 2015 #113

Yes, LovingA2andMI Nov 2015 #127

:-) NurseJackie Nov 2015 #145

Like paying favors back to all the corporations who are paying for her campaign? onecaliberal Nov 2015 #88

. NurseJackie Nov 2015 #90

So all these persons who say they believe that BlueMTexpat Nov 2015 #107

And I will sleep soundly tonight with that knowledge. onecaliberal Nov 2015 #119

Oh, by all means please do. eom BlueMTexpat Nov 2015 #123

Corporations are prohibited by law from making contributions to federal campaigns Freddie Stubbs Nov 2015 #115

Surely you're not that naive. onecaliberal Nov 2015 #120

She's the candidate of change, that's for sure berni_mccoy Nov 2015 #16

Thank you for your input and may the rest of your life be the best of your life. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #17

Now there is a post that is a bit original and not the same old meme but the smilie has lost it's upaloopa Nov 2015 #54

It hasn't 'loast' anything LOL berni_mccoy Nov 2015 #63

I love that song thanks upaloopa Nov 2015 #80

Change your position when corporate masters demand you do so. onecaliberal Nov 2015 #101

Get the message for Change out there! tecelote Nov 2015 #21

The Revolution vs The Evolution gordyfl Nov 2015 #31

HIS battle all right VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #37

no bullshit retrowire Nov 2015 #36

polls VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #38

Not issues? Rogue Democrat Nov 2015 #43

The question was...do I believe this OP VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #50

It's not a question of ability ibegurpard Nov 2015 #40

I think a Bernie Sanders presidency would actually be a huge setback moobu2 Nov 2015 #41

Define "the good guys." Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 #74

The Democratic Party. moobu2 Nov 2015 #133

That's strange. I think he's just what the doctor ordered. Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 #143

Makes sense. Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #47

2Pac.... LovingA2andMI Nov 2015 #60

what a joke Robbins Nov 2015 #65

+1 deutsey Nov 2015 #68

Complete bull. Fearless Nov 2015 #71

Lots of talk about perceptions, still little talk about policy. Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 #72

Standard procedure for Hillary supporters coyote Nov 2015 #81

Yes, she evolves Geronimoe Nov 2015 #75

Well.... AlbertCat Nov 2015 #82

No margin of error and no explanation on who was weighted and why. Bubzer Nov 2015 #95

Over 80% of those polled approve of the way the President has handled the ecconomy... raindaddy Nov 2015 #96

Kick & highly recommended! William769 Nov 2015 #134

She will bring the same kind of change the Republicans will bring. and that is why the big money is Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #135

Thank you for kicking my thread and may the rest of your life be the best of your life. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #136

I appreciate subtlty, done. Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #144

The exciting world of 'moderate' AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #137

I think this is related to voters thinking that Hillary's experience and political connections... DCBob Nov 2015 #139

Evolution doesn't have a direction. Up/down, Left/Right, Forward/Backward. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2015 #141