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2016 Postmortem

Nitram

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24. Reformist2, you make a lot of claims without any facts to back them up.

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Fri Nov 13, 2015, 10:32 AM

Nov 2015

Why do Bernistas get so excited when Bernie's polls go up a little bit, but insist that Hillary's lead in the polls is not related to her true popularity? and I resent being accused of "blindly marching behind our leaders" because I would consider voting for Clinton.

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Hillary's support depends so much on the perception that she's leading in the polls. [View all] reformist2 Nov 2015 OP

Some of us remember how our generation's Sanders fared - George McGovern and Landslide wasn't pretty Hoyt Nov 2015 #1

Yet you've conveniently forgotten Obama's own landslide? Kentonio Nov 2015 #36

The "perception?" murielm99 Nov 2015 #2

Have they Polled them? ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #8

Hahahahah VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #3

If Bernie's message is "thinking for oneself, the dangers of going along with the group" ucrdem Nov 2015 #4

Bizarre comparison Android3.14 Nov 2015 #11

Agreed. If Joe Lieberman was running as the Dem party favorite they would vote for him? Name GoneFishin Nov 2015 #5

Quite a few of them would *love* Joebituary for a candidate Fumesucker Nov 2015 #7

If Lieberman were the Democratic nominee? ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #9

It is highly improbable that your hypothesis BlueMTexpat Nov 2015 #19

Is Joe Lieberman leading in ANY polls? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #31

And this is analysis is based on.....? brooklynite Nov 2015 #6

My OWN opinion! Imagine that! reformist2 Nov 2015 #33

Be brave, lead, stand up for your true ideals Android3.14 Nov 2015 #10

many of her supporters love her non-objecting to the TPP/distaste for single-payer/fondness for war stupidicus Nov 2015 #12

Hillary is the "Ruby Tuesday candidate" Art_from_Ark Nov 2015 #14

lol stupidicus Nov 2015 #15

You will...in 2024! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #32

It ain't over until it's over... tecelote Nov 2015 #13

Keep Mark Penn away from her polls. Insist polls include greater % of young, new voters. madfloridian Nov 2015 #16

I see - we're just imagining Hillary's ahead by a large margin, and Sanders is pretend leading. Lil Missy Nov 2015 #17

It's all a media and pollster BlueMTexpat Nov 2015 #18

There is an old saying in bike racing, "When the flag drops, the bullshit stops." alfredo Nov 2015 #20

. MohRokTah Nov 2015 #21

I will let others decide if the two statements are complimentary or mutually exclusive. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #22

Thank you for injecting a reality check in this thread. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #23

Reformist2, you make a lot of claims without any facts to back them up. Nitram Nov 2015 #24

Because I have seen precisely ZERO real-world evidence of support for Hillary. reformist2 Nov 2015 #34

You sound like my right-wing mother, Nitram Nov 2015 #35

You bring up a good point, and I'll ask a simple question to solidify it Hydra Nov 2015 #25

In 2008, she ended up getting as many votes as Obama... brooklynite Nov 2015 #26

Excellent counterpoint, in my unvarnished opinion, of course. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #28

Republcians felt the same way in 2012, so Mitt Romney found polls to create the perception he lead Agnosticsherbet Nov 2015 #27

Those stupid sleepy Clinton supporters are ruining everything!!!! JoePhilly Nov 2015 #29

It's also reality. RandySF Nov 2015 #30

I can't decide whether this is more insulting to Hillary or her supporters. Beacool Nov 2015 #37