2016 Postmortem

KingCharlemagne

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37. Im 100% sure Mcg or his staff asked Eagleton if there were

Fri Nov 13, 2015, 10:38 AM

Nov 2015

anything in his past that might disqualify him. Thanks Tom for being sure to mention THE ELECTRO SHOCK TREATMENTS . . . Not!

Mcg did himself no favors by saying he backed Eagleton 1000%. Er, better make that 999. . . . 998 . . . 997. You get the picture.

'72 reveals America in all its glory, where a fundamentally decent human being ran against a gangster and America chose the gangster. 1980 (and 2000) was a mere coda to that sorry symphony.

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Is there a "McGovern effect" influencing the Democratic primary? [View all] onenote Nov 2015 OP

You pose a good question and I don't know the answer but Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #1

I certainly think that has some influence. nt sufrommich Nov 2015 #2

The McGovern debacle has affected every Democratic nomination process for 43 years. MohRokTah Nov 2015 #3

I voted for McGovern in '72 and would do so again. If Bernie is nominated I will vote for him. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2015 #4

The McGovern Effect Capt. Obvious Nov 2015 #5

Thanks. Interesting piece. onenote Nov 2015 #6

Nixon was a popular incumbent president in 1972. This year, KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #7

I'm not trying to imply McGovern and Sanders are alike. onenote Nov 2015 #9

And how many years ago was this. artislife Nov 2015 #20

Not only a popular incumbent, but a war time popular incumbent. Americans have never merrily Nov 2015 #29

Yes, of course it does, and rightly so. MineralMan Nov 2015 #8

IF there is a McGovern effect it is located more in TPTB in jwirr Nov 2015 #10

The folks I know aren't part of "TPTB" onenote Nov 2015 #11

I worked for McGovern in 72. Most people are not really that jwirr Nov 2015 #12

Good to know. onenote Nov 2015 #13

You could be right but I also think the polls are less trustworthy jwirr Nov 2015 #19

Democrats have been brainwashed into fearing liberals as part of the DLC-ization of the Party. merrily Nov 2015 #30

McGovern v. Nixon is as relevant to the 2016 election as Al Smith v. Herbert Hoover was to '72. Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #14

I never once suggested that this was about "most of the electorate" onenote Nov 2015 #15

Could be. Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #16

Or it could be that older voters are just more politically "wise", '72 being a slice of that Persondem Nov 2015 #17

The McGovern effect has screwed up the party since that election Armstead Nov 2015 #18

Given what the GOP is now (as opposed to 1972) Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #21

The superdelegates were introduced to prevent another McGovern from losing 49 states jfern Nov 2015 #22

Not quite, I don't think Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #23

Here's how they match up jfern Nov 2015 #24

One factor that you miss with Dukakis Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #25

I guess I should have said the same racial demographics jfern Nov 2015 #26

This is an incredible statistic here Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #28

I have made a number of posts on "the McGovern lost because he was liberal" meme. merrily Nov 2015 #27

Some historical perspective... Docreed2003 Nov 2015 #31

Yes, Democrats for Nixon, analogous to Reagan Democrats merrily Nov 2015 #35

The math in presidential elections has gotten weird theboss Nov 2015 #32

I think that the right Democrat Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #33

Indiana seems like a longshot to me even though its voting history is similar to NC's theboss Nov 2015 #34

'72 probably would have been somewhat closer had McGovern not screwed up the VP WI_DEM Nov 2015 #36

Im 100% sure Mcg or his staff asked Eagleton if there were KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #37