2016 Postmortem

CoffeeCat

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93. I think Iowans are especially sensitive to this...

Fri Nov 13, 2015, 06:06 PM

Nov 2015

When you live in a state that is first to vote in the primary--you tend to take this responsibility seriously. At least that is how I perceive that most Iowans feel.

We resented Hillary's "inevitability" in 2008.

I think she's got a pretty cozy relationship with the Iowa media, and if the campaign pushes it too far, it could backfire.

Like you said, all of this, "Hillary is inevitable" and "Hillary will win barring any big disaster" nonsense leaves people feeling as if they have no choice. Voters do not like being told that!

All of this also underscores her corporate connections. And many in the Democratic party consider the corporate-political enmeshment to be corruption that needs to be stopped.

So yeah, all of this blatant media favoritism would work against her, as we get closer to the caucuses.

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Sanders being rendered nonexistent by Iowa media <frustrated> [View all] CoffeeCat Nov 2015 OP

Wow. This is a very eye-opening OP. Thanks for pointing this stuff out 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #1

Hmm...I wonder who is corporate owned! Rockyj Nov 2015 #104

The mass media in Iowa is every bit as far right as the folks that live there...the media there is Fred Sanders Nov 2015 #2

No, the media is in the tank for the establishment Fumesucker Nov 2015 #5

I posted evidence of what is happening... CoffeeCat Nov 2015 #6

the 1% own everything questionseverything Nov 2015 #41

SOP RichVRichV Nov 2015 #42

Thank you for the reminder... CoffeeCat Nov 2015 #63

Contact the station manager and ask if they are following a Separate but Equal policy appalachiablue Nov 2015 #131

This is the primary, not the general. Media has its preference in each party. merrily Nov 2015 #28

news journalism is expected to be unbiased bread_and_roses Nov 2015 #126

I was replying to Sanders who posted that media does not favor Hillary. merrily Nov 2015 #127

Ah - I see bread_and_roses Nov 2015 #128

I know the feeling. I did, too and I haven't had any yet. It's making as we speak. merrily Nov 2015 #129

The corporate media is in the tank for corporate candidates mountain grammy Nov 2015 #130

I think that is if one accepts the scientific polling...the frontrunner of three will get attention Fred Sanders Nov 2015 #134

I seriously believe the media isn't interested in Bernie's mountain grammy Nov 2015 #136

Campaign ads are a huge source of media revenue, they will do nothing to endanger that Fumesucker Nov 2015 #3

Yep...the corp media knows which side ... tex-wyo-dem Nov 2015 #22

At this point they're buttering both sides of the bread. Extra thick. aidbo Nov 2015 #98

^^ This. When a campaign makes huge ad buys, it not just about airing commercials. n/t winter is coming Nov 2015 #60

this is what we're up against ibegurpard Nov 2015 #4

As Bernie has said , he needs our help. kacekwl Nov 2015 #96

Or leafletting with informational flyers dreamnightwind Nov 2015 #97

Good start. kacekwl Nov 2015 #99

Here you go dreamnightwind Nov 2015 #101

Thank you for the information. SamKnause Nov 2015 #7

This message was self-deleted by its author think Nov 2015 #8

You will vote for whomever you are told to vote for. Binkie The Clown Nov 2015 #9

That's a quote from Plucketeer Nov 2015 #46

Ha! SammyWinstonJack Nov 2015 #73

The Hearst Corporation owns KCCI and many other local TV stations across the US think Nov 2015 #10

Thanks for this, very helpful info. that shows the too large scope of Media companies. appalachiablue Nov 2015 #89

Yes. Journalism is dead. tecelote Nov 2015 #120

K&R Corporate Media sux Cosmic Kitten Nov 2015 #11

Well That's Interesting . . . Gamecock Lefty Nov 2015 #12

what was there to be offended by then? retrowire Nov 2015 #16

What does poll numbers have to do with media coverage? RichVRichV Nov 2015 #44

What are you talking about, the media HATES Hillary with the passion of a thousand burning benghazis yodermon Nov 2015 #13

Nope... tex-wyo-dem Nov 2015 #25

Spot on! Bubzer Nov 2015 #37

If a station did she favoritism towards Bernie or O'Malley, I doubt that that station LiberalArkie Nov 2015 #47

the establishment will not let Bernie get a fair chance retrowire Nov 2015 #14

Yes. The game is rigged by the media. Censorship, corruption, cheating, whatever word you choose it GoneFishin Nov 2015 #15

another reason I'll have a hard time Pharaoh Nov 2015 #17

See posts # 19 and # 30 for Sanders coverage. He is not being ignored riversedge Nov 2015 #36

Again, you posted very short... CoffeeCat Nov 2015 #71

This is a good reason why our presidential candidates should not be decided by a few avaistheone1 Nov 2015 #18

Here's more local media "ignoring" Bernie Sanders... brooklynite Nov 2015 #19

So---Sanders is not being ignorned. Thanks riversedge Nov 2015 #33

***ARE YOU FLIPPING KIDDING ME?!?! Please read this!!*** CoffeeCat Nov 2015 #66

The primary season relieves them of having to report news.. roody Nov 2015 #125

Alternatives to MSM kenn3d Nov 2015 #20

I suggest the term "CCM," Corporate Controlled Media. Admiral Loinpresser Nov 2015 #106

That's very good, 'The CCM'. The growing power of corporate control of the news media was appalachiablue Nov 2015 #133

Seminal film. We are mad as hell. n/t Admiral Loinpresser Nov 2015 #135

An "evil liberal media" post in the DU? Tarc Nov 2015 #21

I was thinking ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #34

Evil but not liberal. n/t Admiral Loinpresser Nov 2015 #107

Perhaps, you haven't noticed ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #117

No. AlbertCat Nov 2015 #51

I never said the media was liberal... CoffeeCat Nov 2015 #82

You're right. Much of the media, as you say, "is clearly biased against Clinton." pnwmom Nov 2015 #110

These tactics are exactly why I dont want her in the white house. Bubzer Nov 2015 #23

And this is why we need more debates. We the people have jwirr Nov 2015 #29

I very much agree. Bubzer Nov 2015 #39

How is Hillary using "these underhanded tactics"?? Be specific and back up your accusations related riversedge Nov 2015 #35

I wasn't going to respond, but this is too good to pass up Bubzer Nov 2015 #138

I grew up in Iowa. What locality does KCCI serve? And jwirr Nov 2015 #24

KCCI is the CBS affiliate that covers the Des Moines Metro area... CoffeeCat Nov 2015 #67

The Register used to have more balance. However, I would jwirr Nov 2015 #90

I think Iowans are especially sensitive to this... CoffeeCat Nov 2015 #93

Get some complaints going over the net about media coverage. jwirr Nov 2015 #95

Same shit in Floriduh. Bernie is invisible in the supposedly "liberal" Tampa Bay Times Fuddnik Nov 2015 #26

Thanks for the Information... LovingA2andMI Nov 2015 #27

I'm not sure your sampling is representative kristopher Nov 2015 #30

Of course, I wasn't suggesting that Sanders was never mentioned... CoffeeCat Nov 2015 #77

Agree with most but GitRDun Nov 2015 #31

"It's not fair. Can't she fight fair?" You are directing your anger at the wrong person riversedge Nov 2015 #32

No worries. They will all watch the debate tomorrow. Dawgs Nov 2015 #38

DVR, recorders, 1,000 replays on MSNBC and a little channel flipping Sheepshank Nov 2015 #68

Right, because most Americans just love DVRing politics to watch at a later time. Dawgs Nov 2015 #69

Actually they are undefeated now and maybe will clinch a spot in the championship game... cascadiance Nov 2015 #85

Not only do they have a football in the evening at the same time, but a record crowd wrestling match cascadiance Nov 2015 #113

The same Iowa media that completely failed to vet Joni Ernst in 2014. bullwinkle428 Nov 2015 #40

It's very telling to me that they won't even report the horse race! Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 #43

Nope - she is not going to fight fair because then she'll lose TBF Nov 2015 #45

Hillary Clinton wants to be President. LuvLoogie Nov 2015 #62

Call the media out for it like Angela (under the article) did. Jarqui Nov 2015 #48

#1 sign a campaign is losing? They and their followers blame the media. MohRokTah Nov 2015 #49

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Most of us understood the media is owned by corporations that censor the news as seen fit think Nov 2015 #78

smacks of corruption, unfair advantage... a deliberate coup between Clinton and the corporate media AlbertCat Nov 2015 #50

"corruption"..."a deliberate coup"... brooklynite Nov 2015 #55

Why not tell us how you really feel? AlbertCat Nov 2015 #80

It's just that Bernie Sanders doesnt have a chance to win and most people know it. moobu2 Nov 2015 #52

And comments like that are going to do you a lot of good come general election time when Still In Wisconsin Nov 2015 #59

Whereas comments like Clinton is "corrupt" will do a lot of good rounding up votes for Bernie... brooklynite Nov 2015 #65

Agreed. People on both sides of this Still In Wisconsin Nov 2015 #79

Historically, Clinton doesn't have a chance to win, either. Goblinmonger Nov 2015 #61

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"By a wide margin, Democrats view Sen. Hillary Clinton (N.Y.) as the party's candidate Goblinmonger Nov 2015 #72

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And Clinton supporters aren't going to get people to support her Goblinmonger Nov 2015 #75

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Make sure to call them moonbat idealists or something of the like also. Still In Wisconsin Nov 2015 #87

And this time there is more pressure through Citizen's United... cascadiance Nov 2015 #88

It's just that Bernie Sanders doesnt have a chance to win AlbertCat Nov 2015 #76

You shouldn't accuse Hillary for the lack of media coverage . FloridaBlues Nov 2015 #54

Media coverage of anything... CoffeeCat Nov 2015 #86

The lack of fairness is mainly what I was referring to in the post up Re the Plessy v. Ferguson SC appalachiablue Nov 2015 #137

Perhaps Senator Sanders could have ventured forth from his hamlet LuvLoogie Nov 2015 #56

LOL SunSeeker Nov 2015 #64

The same happened to Edwards in 2008 in Iowa. bvar22 Nov 2015 #57

Fair fights are for suckers. Don't expect one. Jester Messiah Nov 2015 #58

I used to work at KCRG in Cedar Rapids area... cascadiance Nov 2015 #83

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The big shots realize that Hillary is the only candidate who is safe for them. Doctor_J Nov 2015 #91

K N R Faux pas Nov 2015 #92

Have you gotten the DNC "official" party survey yet, CoffeeCat? MrMickeysMom Nov 2015 #94

It's NOT Just In IOWA, Listen To ANY MSM Channel And All ChiciB1 Nov 2015 #100

Ignore him and he will go away? Is that the strategy? eom guillaumeb Nov 2015 #102

Have you tried contacting them in any way? merrily Nov 2015 #103

No but that is a good idea (nt) CoffeeCat Nov 2015 #111

I'm encouraged, actually. We knew this was happening. PatrickforO Nov 2015 #105

It may be too late SmittynMo Nov 2015 #108

What is interesting is that those same Democrats that just a few years ago were upset at the rhett o rick Nov 2015 #109

Update: Tomorrow's debate in Des Moines... CoffeeCat Nov 2015 #112

And it seems to be working. Le Taz Hot Nov 2015 #114

CBS Enthusiast Nov 2015 #115

when bernie fails to be elected it will be his fault no one else. stonecutter357 Nov 2015 #116

I think in spite of the media madokie Nov 2015 #118

Corporate media doesn't mention anti-corporate candidate. raouldukelives Nov 2015 #119

It is simple, the wealthiest control all the information and Hillary is their friend. Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #121

The Des Moines Register is just as bad. roody Nov 2015 #122

It's Bernie's message they want to surpress. jalan48 Nov 2015 #123

This would make an excellent letter to the editor. CrispyQ Nov 2015 #124

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Nov 2015 #132