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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: I'm even more utterly mystified [View all]beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)82. Nice try but you don't get to make up your own facts.
Bin Laden was in Afghanistan in 2001 and the US had every reason to believe he was still there when Bernie voted for the AUMF. Where he was finally killed has nothing to do with that vote.
What you don't like is the fact that your candidate tried to frame Saddam for harboring al Qaeda members when she pimped the Iraq war:
"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members...
It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well, effects American security.
This is a very difficult vote, this is probably the hardest decision I've ever had to make. Any vote that might lead to war should be hard, but I cast it with conviction."
It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well, effects American security.
This is a very difficult vote, this is probably the hardest decision I've ever had to make. Any vote that might lead to war should be hard, but I cast it with conviction."
You can't defend her war vote so you're feigning outrage about the AUMF.
Why do you support a war hawk?
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You didn't read what I was responding to, someone who claimed that under Sanders the wars....
George II
Nov 2015
#12
Sanders has said he would take military action and use drones, to think he would be able to
Thinkingabout
Nov 2015
#83
AFter what just happened in Paris, I need to hear what both of them think needs to happen
randys1
Nov 2015
#54
Uh huh... so is this an admission that your narrative has fallen apart? Do you admit that if Bernie
Squinch
Nov 2015
#126
He also voted for the war in Afghanistan, too. For our military that war is finally winding down...
George II
Nov 2015
#25
Again, you should be writing to the person I was responding to, who referenced the "wars"!
George II
Nov 2015
#43
He actually voted to go after Bin Laden but against more troops in Afghanistan later.
beam me up scottie
Nov 2015
#38
oh so you *are* for justified killing, you are the one to determine the justification? wow
Sheepshank
Nov 2015
#52
You clearly fawned all over the post saying Bernie's vote was ok because of OBL
Sheepshank
Nov 2015
#99
justification for a vote for war, because war was the only way to get Bin Laden?
Sheepshank
Nov 2015
#70
If the deaths from the war in Afghanistan upset you so much why are you supporting Hillary?
beam me up scottie
Nov 2015
#74
You really should skip trying to interpret people's motivations...you are really really bad at it.
Sheepshank
Nov 2015
#104
Bin Laden was in Afghanistan in 2001 when Bernie voted for the AUMF.
beam me up scottie
Nov 2015
#84
According to the person that I responded to (did you follow the discussion?) if Sanders is elected..
George II
Nov 2015
#123
And I'm beyond mystified that Hillary didn't listen to Dick Cheney warn of the dangers in Iraq
Fumesucker
Nov 2015
#5
I'm utterly mystified that people are more offended by pictures than the war itself.
beam me up scottie
Nov 2015
#14
Dip, dodge, dive. I have my own standards of what picture should be displayed....
Sheepshank
Nov 2015
#22
Nope, calling HC supporters on their exploitation of gun deaths is none of the above.
beam me up scottie
Nov 2015
#30
if anyone is defelcting a war vote its you. Bernie voted for a war that acheived nothing
Sheepshank
Nov 2015
#80
You are supporting a hawk who laughs at the thought of war and killing:
beam me up scottie
Nov 2015
#86
Over used clips about Hillary, doesn't stop Bernie from also being a warhawk
Sheepshank
Nov 2015
#108
High priests of liberalism? As opposed to DU's high priests of conservatism on the other hand?
Ed Suspicious
Nov 2015
#91
Yes, said he wished McCain had beaten Obama. Yes on every single solitary other thing you said in
Number23
Nov 2015
#55
You shouldn't be mystified, you should think about why so many Dems don't want Hillary.
reformist2
Nov 2015
#48
I did not know all those details. What a sad situation for the woman who was grieving. n/t
freshwest
Nov 2015
#87
I already know who these people are.. it says everything about them and absolutely
Cha
Nov 2015
#120
Not all Democrats are running for president. The last time we ran someone who voted for--
eridani
Nov 2015
#122
It really wasn't all that hard to find the info...the other op has become predictable
Sheepshank
Nov 2015
#125