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Hillary Clinton was played for a chump by the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy she was the first to name [View all] Fumesucker Nov 2015 OP

Hillary is way better than any Republican candidate. tecelote Nov 2015 #1

Ummmm. It would appear that one is at hand. Smarmie Doofus Nov 2015 #7

I may have stated that wrong. tecelote Nov 2015 #8

Can a "chump" really "evolve" into a "Champion" aspirant Nov 2015 #9

Highly doubtful Hillary can. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2015 #11

"Tell me something real". nt stillwaiting Nov 2015 #16

Hillary is way better than any Republican candidate. AlbertCat Nov 2015 #35

I supported the war in Iraq at that time persuadable Nov 2015 #46

"Most" Americans did not support the Iraq war NV Whino Nov 2015 #74

"Most Americans did." Fawke Em Nov 2015 #75

I sure as hell did not and I did not have the info that those in the Congress had. Hepburn Nov 2015 #98

Chump? Who provided the chump story when the ISIS resolution to congressional members voted against Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #2

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Wow, now since Sanders voted against the ISIS Resolution, lets put the continued actions of ISIS Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #39

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Clinton thought Bush would follow the IWR, he didn't, Saudi Arabia did not handle ISIL, so since so Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #65

Thanks for making our point. Fawke Em Nov 2015 #76

What about Sanders poor judgement, Saudi did not step up. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #95

If, on this day, what horrifies and dismays you 72DejaVu Nov 2015 #3

It's been more or less a constant state for me since the 2000 election Fumesucker Nov 2015 #4

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It horrifies me. earthside Nov 2015 #56

Does Hills insist aspirant Nov 2015 #5

Fuck no. elehhhhna Nov 2015 #6

Pretty much tells you where Hillary's loyalties lie. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2015 #12

As (REDUX) DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #10

You disagree that Hillary was chumped by the VRWC? Fumesucker Nov 2015 #13

I disagree with just about everything you write but ... DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #15

You didn't strike out that batter. Fawke Em Nov 2015 #78

I struck out every batter who came up against the plate against me. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #81

You haven't struck them out, no. Fawke Em Nov 2015 #92

I would never tell folks who yearn to be free to "shut up" DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #94

This ought'a be good ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #19

Twenty nine Senate Democrats... DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #20

Hmmm ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #26

You decide, sir DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #33

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I was never asked to vote for her in a general election. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #48

Here's the point: I had to hold my nose to vote for that ticket. Fawke Em Nov 2015 #84

Here's a larger, and very real, point ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #90

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I said no such thing but lying about me says more about you than it can ever say about me. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #43

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Dispassionate and dissembling are not synonymous DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #53

The Way Back Time Machine being fired up by the left left to attack Clinton is a good sign for her. Fred Sanders Nov 2015 #14

LOL DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #17

I agree with everything except your final line. Cassiopeia Nov 2015 #18

Exactly. peacebird Nov 2015 #22

I will take that wager. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #23

This isn't a sport to be gambled on. Cassiopeia Nov 2015 #25

But it would be a demonstration of your level of confidence ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #29

Au contraire DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #30

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I think she's a hawk, not a chump dreamnightwind Nov 2015 #21

+1,000,000. nt. polly7 Nov 2015 #24

+1000 ^^^^ Locrian Nov 2015 #32

Exactly. AlbertCat Nov 2015 #40

Yep it's too generous to assume politicians have good intentions. Cheese Sandwich Nov 2015 #59

+1000000000 azmom Nov 2015 #101

"Naivete"? No, I'm going with "complicity." Scuba Nov 2015 #27

Exactly n/t MissDeeds Nov 2015 #54

Either way. Enthusiast Nov 2015 #55

I think she knew it was a lie, but voted for war anyway - it was too risky to vote no. reformist2 Nov 2015 #28

It is a test of character. We need a president who is not going to cave Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2015 #86

She was thinking to use the RW Conspiracy for her own ends...like jujitsu Demeter Nov 2015 #31

speaking of getting played as a chump wyldwolf Nov 2015 #34

a 'my way or the highway' candidate .... after spending years disrespecting the Democratic party AlbertCat Nov 2015 #42

Of course there is wyldwolf Nov 2015 #63

Hmm... so the candidate who has worked with all-comers to Fawke Em Nov 2015 #88

You're contention is Sanders has gotten the most done in Congress? wyldwolf Nov 2015 #96

We could just elect a Republican, that way they could get stuff done with a Republican Congress dreamnightwind Nov 2015 #99

'Embracing' is not the point. wyldwolf Nov 2015 #100

Not at all dreamnightwind Nov 2015 #103

His name is Bernie Sanders. AlbertCat Nov 2015 #106

Oh wow, another anti Hillary post. Loki Nov 2015 #44

The IWR is something for which an ethical person would beg forgiveness Android3.14 Nov 2015 #49

Fumesucker, you are exactly correct. I don't doubt the existence of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy. Enthusiast Nov 2015 #51

It is simply amazing Hillary Haters... yallerdawg Nov 2015 #52

So basically, Saddam had it coming, so Hillary's vote is ok? Wow. reformist2 Nov 2015 #58

I have never understood... yallerdawg Nov 2015 #64

Han Blix was yanked before he could complete his search for WMD. oasis Nov 2015 #77

So you're blaming Bush/Cheney. yallerdawg Nov 2015 #85

So much was uncovered months and years after the invasion. oasis Nov 2015 #91

I want some one who right about defense , not some one who looks strong on defense. bahrbearian Nov 2015 #97

Why were the Dixie Chicks nicknamed the Blixie Chicks? That Guy 888 Nov 2015 #102

I voted for the Kerry/Edwards ticket in 2004. So did oasis Nov 2015 #105

Every politician who supported invading Iraq should hang their head. Cheese Sandwich Nov 2015 #57

You know very well it was a political calculation. nt FlatBaroque Nov 2015 #60

I don't think she's a chump. I think she knew exactly what she was doing. Broward Nov 2015 #61

I think it's simpler than that. Doctor_J Nov 2015 #62

What is "ssm"? nt tblue37 Nov 2015 #66

same sex marriage Doctor_J Nov 2015 #67

Thanks. I had not seen that abbreviation before. nt tblue37 Nov 2015 #68

She's been kicking RW ass for 20+ years. JoePhilly Nov 2015 #69

No she hasn't. She and her centrist friends have turned the Dems into the minority party. reformist2 Nov 2015 #70

Lol, ok. JoePhilly Nov 2015 #71

She was monumentally stupid or cynically expedient. Either of which makes her unfit. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2015 #72

What irks me the most about the invasion of Iraq Joe Turner Nov 2015 #73

The American people were bing played by Bush and Cheney Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2015 #83

I Cannot Believe She Believed colsohlibgal Nov 2015 #79

It appears that her problem with the VRWC was that they wouldn't let her play with them. GoneFishin Nov 2015 #80

Your OP is perfectly acceptable to me. Fawke Em Nov 2015 #82

That's why she lost in 2008 Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2015 #87

I'd be scared to death of her presidency. Fawke Em Nov 2015 #89

Hillary is a chump. Dem2 Nov 2015 #93

It's the more polite of the alternatives, and the more unlikely Hydra Nov 2015 #104