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MADem

(135,425 posts)
175. The point I was making about laws have nothing to do with your stories.
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 05:50 PM
Nov 2015

If you want to talk about your situation, start a thread on it and see if someone bites.

Don't, though, try to gish gallop away from the topic by flinging a bunch of personal crapola having nothing to do with the subject of this thread at me. My admonition to you has nothing to do with "true colors." It has to do with STAYING ON TOPIC, and you failed to do that with your little sashay down "personal lane" to try to distract from the fact that you'd lost the bubble on this issue. You aren't "weeding," you're desperately trying to change the subject. Sorry--NO sale.

Bottom line--we win downticket races, we can change laws. We don't win downticket races, we cannot change law. To win these races, we need MONEY--for ads and media buys, for workers, for office space, for bumper stickers, for flyers, etc. CLINTON is raising this money. SANDERS has just signed a pact agreeing to do the same.

It's quite simple, and your personal issues -injected as a simple distraction from the discussion -- have nothing to do with that dynamic.

Again, you want to talk about your hard life? Start a thread and stop "pretending" that your personal anecdotes inform this conversation in any way. This thread is about DNC fundraisers and getting downticket candidates elected, not about your personal litanies. And no--when you distract, disrupt, and try to derail threads, I don't care about your "hardships"--because they are not salient to this topic. Take them somewhere where they apply.

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your soul? bowens43 Nov 2015 #1
Good, Hillary is working hard to make sure the Dem's keep lewebley3 Nov 2015 #56
Yes, let's sell ourselves.... daleanime Nov 2015 #65
Yes, my responses are very logical: I you know where I stand: like Hillary lewebley3 Nov 2015 #75
So what questions are we allowed to ask Hillary? daleanime Nov 2015 #90
LOL! Plucketeer Nov 2015 #93
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #115
It takes money to get elected: Its mothers milk to politics lewebley3 Nov 2015 #161
She's not going to floriduck Nov 2015 #127
The 1% Taking Care Of The 1% cantbeserious Nov 2015 #2
You might try re-reading the article, and seeing where that money is going to go. MADem Nov 2015 #18
And as usual, they'll use it exclusively on New Dems, Blue Dogs, and Third-Wayers. Fuddnik Nov 2015 #22
Cough. You might want to look at the funding stream for SANDERS (I-VT) 2006 Senate Campaign. MADem Nov 2015 #48
One person's "helping out his fellow Democrats" is another person's "buying support." A Simple Game Nov 2015 #28
Talk to Bernie about that--he had his hand out in 2006, does that make it "OK?" nt MADem Nov 2015 #49
One thing I don't understand though is why didn't Hillary A Simple Game Nov 2015 #59
Good grief--she DID support the Democratic candidate. MADem Nov 2015 #82
No, Bernie wasn't the Democratic candidate never was and didn't want to be. A Simple Game Nov 2015 #89
Yes, he WAS. He appeared as a candidate on the Democratic Primary ballot. MADem Nov 2015 #92
Sanders was on the primary ballot because the Democrats wanted to back a winner. A Simple Game Nov 2015 #196
AT LAST. Now you're getting it!! The other candidates were kooks. MADem Nov 2015 #206
And he declined the nomination as a D and ran as an I. The Democratic Party USED him... Luminous Animal Nov 2015 #197
His name was on the Democratic Primary Ballot. He was the "DNC pick." MADem Nov 2015 #202
Of course he knew they ran him. And they knew he would decline. The Democratic Luminous Animal Nov 2015 #203
They used each other. He wouldn't have had enough money without them. nt MADem Nov 2015 #207
He did what Madem described in both his Senate runs. LuvLoogie Nov 2015 #116
He didn't do it. The Democratic Party did it. They put him on the ballot KNOWING Luminous Animal Nov 2015 #199
In fairness, he does show up at DSCC fatc at retreats... brooklynite Nov 2015 #32
Is his hand out? nt MADem Nov 2015 #53
Question to you Brook. LuvLoogie Nov 2015 #124
Thank You.. busterbrown Nov 2015 #36
I think most people feel that way--they'd like the guy a lot better were it not for the vicious POV MADem Nov 2015 #63
Put us all on ignore. Go Bernie. 840high Nov 2015 #121
Nah.. I admire most of you too.. busterbrown Nov 2015 #159
Don't confuse the issue with facts... BooScout Nov 2015 #42
You are MADem: Sanders supporters don't care about facts and details lewebley3 Nov 2015 #61
"His fellow democrates" LOL, good one! eom PosterChild Nov 2015 #194
I am sure there is no quid pro quo for all that moolah.... None at all. peacebird Nov 2015 #3
Good for her... brooklynite Nov 2015 #4
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #5
Most of my money goes to DSCC and DCCC... brooklynite Nov 2015 #31
My broke ass says... NCTraveler Nov 2015 #43
we get the picture questionseverything Nov 2015 #100
Well, now we learn Sanders has cut a deal with Debbie Wasserman Schultz to raise money for MADem Nov 2015 #103
Please see #183 to get an understanding of the "access" brooklynite Nov 2015 #218
If you work for a living, bvar22 Nov 2015 #104
You'd better write to Bernie Sanders, then--he just cut a deal with Debbie Wasserman Schultz to MADem Nov 2015 #114
Deals are a part of politics, even with scummy, almost Republican people like DWS. bvar22 Nov 2015 #123
Sure--your donations from now on to Bernie will be shared with Debbie and crew. MADem Nov 2015 #129
I have a call in to the Bernie Campaign, bvar22 Nov 2015 #154
Bernie's a member of the establishment, now. He's separating from his insurgent supporters, MADem Nov 2015 #157
So you walked back your claim that my donations to Sanders bvar22 Nov 2015 #219
Going forward, they will be. As the links describe. You can read, can't you? MADem Nov 2015 #220
Ooooo. You put cartoons in this post. bvar22 Nov 2015 #221
I did--I thought they'd be helpful, since you have so much trouble clicking links and reading them! MADem Nov 2015 #222
IOKIYABS LuvLoogie Nov 2015 #130
Thanks. Those of us who are on pensions, thank you for aiding the party that cares about us. freshwest Nov 2015 #210
Exactly ! DURHAM D Nov 2015 #6
+1 NurseJackie Nov 2015 #7
Money trumps all for some. azmom Nov 2015 #13
I am astounded that people could (supposedly) read that article and come away with some of the MADem Nov 2015 #20
This thread is both very telling and DURHAM D Nov 2015 #24
Well, it kind of proves what a lot of us have thought for awhile. MADem Nov 2015 #98
Your posts are always such a pleasure to read! freshwest Nov 2015 #211
Baloney. zentrum Nov 2015 #57
You get nowhere without money. This is but one aspect of the strategy. MADem Nov 2015 #164
This is sadly true in our complex society of hundreds of millions. The vision of the Norman Rockwell freshwest Nov 2015 #213
All fair points!!!! nt MADem Nov 2015 #214
I just wish it were not so. I do go to meetings and meet those who are real people and want to help. freshwest Nov 2015 #217
How do you pay for that? mythology Nov 2015 #172
Very sad... zentrum Nov 2015 #209
You didn't answer the question. Your father isn't running for POTUS or any office. MADem Nov 2015 #212
That expensive dinner was zentrum Nov 2015 #224
Sanders people think politics doesn't require money lewebley3 Nov 2015 #64
He's got money. zentrum Nov 2015 #208
Wouldn't it be nice if MORE DEMOCRATS spent some time and energy helping other Democrats? MADem Nov 2015 #8
Well said...nt SidDithers Nov 2015 #12
Good Dems bash other Dems! JoePhilly Nov 2015 #17
Some of these comments are embarrassing for the writers--they're either so INVESTED in their POTUS MADem Nov 2015 #21
Is that per person or per question fredamae Nov 2015 #9
I'm sure you want an honest answer, rather than just an excuse to vent... brooklynite Nov 2015 #37
Thank you for clarifying. n/t fredamae Nov 2015 #76
Hillary is getting like Carly Fiorina Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2015 #10
Carly is raising money fir other Dems?? JoePhilly Nov 2015 #16
Ha ha ha ha ha!!! Who knew? MADem Nov 2015 #23
Bernie azmom Nov 2015 #11
You do realize that you are saying DURHAM D Nov 2015 #19
no no my dear... retrowire Nov 2015 #26
This is not Anit-Establishment Underground. DURHAM D Nov 2015 #27
And yet we have so many McCain voters... Scootaloo Nov 2015 #68
I'm sorry retrowire Nov 2015 #81
"Underground" means anti-establishment. bvar22 Nov 2015 #138
I think you are the one who is behind the curve. MADem Nov 2015 #33
that's a cute spin dear. retrowire Nov 2015 #80
That "dear" schtick makes you look like a real ass, you know. You've been told by others before MADem Nov 2015 #109
lmao been told before? retrowire Nov 2015 #146
If you're not the "dear" tosser, I do apologize. MADem Nov 2015 #152
I'm still sorry for being a sucky person to you. n/t retrowire Nov 2015 #187
We're fine. Take care of yourself. nt MADem Nov 2015 #188
I think we're seeing evidence of lashing out. MADem Nov 2015 #29
Thank you... Hepburn Nov 2015 #47
Indeed--nothing says "HOPE FOR THE FUTURE" like "FUCK THIS SHIT." MADem Nov 2015 #52
Better that what Hillary has... Hepburn Nov 2015 #60
Ahhh, the lame little laundry list! MADem Nov 2015 #70
Yeah, tell someone who lost a loved one in Iraq... Hepburn Nov 2015 #83
Yes, anyone who voted to fund that conflict has blood on his hands. MADem Nov 2015 #113
Fuck this shit! azmom Nov 2015 #72
Let them eat cake! Hepburn Nov 2015 #84
Exactly. #bowdowntohillary azmom Nov 2015 #86
Good to see you're finally getting the spirit! MADem Nov 2015 #120
Hillary looks GREAT in that pic! nt MADem Nov 2015 #118
Oh, no! ROTFLMAO. Hey, I needed that! freshwest Nov 2015 #215
Did you read that somewhere? azmom Nov 2015 #46
How much is Bernie raising for Democrats.... Historic NY Nov 2015 #14
Looks like Bernie is gonna have to start earning his keep! He's in bed with the DNC now... MADem Nov 2015 #142
Good. Someone's gotta raise funds to defeat GOP. JaneyVee Nov 2015 #15
*opens wallet* retrowire Nov 2015 #25
If Bernie wins the nomination you can thank Hillary for the money raised for down-ticket Dems. Metric System Nov 2015 #34
East Hampton, NYC UglyGreed Nov 2015 #30
That money will be spent where all of the regular people live. That's the point. MADem Nov 2015 #40
Really? UglyGreed Nov 2015 #55
We're talking about fundraising for political campaigns, not houses. MADem Nov 2015 #131
I thought you said it would help regular UglyGreed Nov 2015 #133
Yes--regular people in districts in Ohio and CA and PA and who knows where.... MADem Nov 2015 #137
The problem is there is no good representation UglyGreed Nov 2015 #141
Well, Bernie is going to join Hillary and give money to all those downticket races, through the DNC MADem Nov 2015 #143
I stand by my statement UglyGreed Nov 2015 #147
Well, if raising money for the DNC is "selling out," Sanders has sold out. He's in bed with "DWS" MADem Nov 2015 #148
You see races mean nothing UglyGreed Nov 2015 #151
Apparently you are in DIRE need of a civics class. MADem Nov 2015 #155
LOL only one UglyGreed Nov 2015 #158
Social security and medicare are "New Democrat" ideas? Who knew? MADem Nov 2015 #166
Ah you did not read that correctly UglyGreed Nov 2015 #170
You didn't make the point properly. nt MADem Nov 2015 #171
But you are UglyGreed Nov 2015 #173
You do a very poor job of this, you know. MADem Nov 2015 #176
I know you have UglyGreed Nov 2015 #179
Your position seems to waver depending on who the candidate is. And your life stories MADem Nov 2015 #181
Which people like myself UglyGreed Nov 2015 #182
You do benefit. Those stupid parties fund candidates downticket, who wouldn't be able to AFFORD to MADem Nov 2015 #190
No you don't understand UglyGreed Nov 2015 #193
No, you don't understand. MADem Nov 2015 #195
Many people feel UglyGreed Nov 2015 #198
You want to feel REALLY "disenfranchised?" We'll tell our silverbacks to stay home and not MADem Nov 2015 #200
. UglyGreed Nov 2015 #160
Your personal anecdotes are not dispositive. MADem Nov 2015 #165
There are many people UglyGreed Nov 2015 #169
The point I was making about laws have nothing to do with your stories. MADem Nov 2015 #175
There ya go UglyGreed Nov 2015 #184
The one with the word salad is you--you keep straying from the topic with personal anecdotes. MADem Nov 2015 #192
Well, one of my 10,000 sq. ft. summer homes is there... Hepburn Nov 2015 #41
Before I became disabled UglyGreed Nov 2015 #67
Hey watch out underpants Nov 2015 #125
corruption is good! Doctor_J Nov 2015 #35
Welcome, One-Percent! Hepburn Nov 2015 #38
Simple question: how would YOU fund your 50 State strategy? brooklynite Nov 2015 #39
With the people who count and not the 1% Hepburn Nov 2015 #44
How, though? That's a non-answer. Where's the money coming from? MADem Nov 2015 #139
They're called coat tails... SidDithers Nov 2015 #45
If it makes you feel better. azmom Nov 2015 #50
but what about all the down ballot Socialists? redstateblues Nov 2015 #91
This is why we need publicly funded elections. fbc Nov 2015 #51
..and in the meantime? brooklynite Nov 2015 #54
A Bernie candidacy will bring more voters to the polls than this money ever will fbc Nov 2015 #62
You seriously believe that all we need is a good Presidential candidate? brooklynite Nov 2015 #74
What a silly response Android3.14 Nov 2015 #134
Except that, right now, we're talking about funding DNC brooklynite Nov 2015 #144
Bingo (NT) Eric J in MN Nov 2015 #97
And this my fellow Bernie supporters is why the DNC and jwirr Nov 2015 #58
How can they not see it? artislife Nov 2015 #66
Good question. But at this moment in history I have no jwirr Nov 2015 #77
That's the price one pays Le Taz Hot Nov 2015 #180
AND the absolute absence of a Moral Compass. bvar22 Nov 2015 #225
Well gee--Bernie is toeing the line for Debbie Wasserman Schultz, now. Big news! MADem Nov 2015 #135
We are the Party of the People = false advertising. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2015 #69
So? ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #71
Well that's the least she can do considering the DNC has nearly crowned her. Vinca Nov 2015 #73
In NYC...I wonder how many Billionaire BANKSTERS will be there? SoapBox Nov 2015 #78
Hand in glove with the DNC. pa28 Nov 2015 #79
See #85... brooklynite Nov 2015 #87
Nov 5: Bernie Sanders inks joint fundraising pact with DNC brooklynite Nov 2015 #85
So Sander's team will raise up to $33,400 and azmom Nov 2015 #94
No - $33,400 is the allowable maximum contribution for any Committee brooklynite Nov 2015 #95
So, Hillary's price of admission is the azmom Nov 2015 #107
It's not tax deductible. NT Eric J in MN Nov 2015 #111
It's still a damn racket. N/t azmom Nov 2015 #117
In addition $200,400 can azmom Nov 2015 #132
Yes. NT Eric J in MN Nov 2015 #174
Silly me. I really thought azmom Nov 2015 #178
Rep Eric Cantor (R-VA) ended public financing of conventions. Eric J in MN Nov 2015 #204
Uh OH! This'll piss off the "Screw the DNC" crowd! He's cut a DEAL WITH DWS!! MADem Nov 2015 #101
If Bernie Sanders organizes an event Eric J in MN Nov 2015 #119
He only signed that deal a week ago! We'll have to see what his first event is! MADem Nov 2015 #168
Didn't Elon Musk give him a million? Read it at DU at the time Bernie visited his plant. freshwest Nov 2015 #216
Hillary Clinton said in the forum with Rachel Maddow Eric J in MN Nov 2015 #88
I get it...because ALL 1%ers are greedy conservatives... brooklynite Nov 2015 #96
Why did Obama bring us the TPP? Eric J in MN Nov 2015 #102
Exactly. Big money owns the system. Which candidate this year will try to change that, Maineman Nov 2015 #128
The system is corrupt. I only see azmom Nov 2015 #140
Groupon and Living Social both have coupons to the event for only $40 !!!! benld74 Nov 2015 #99
Good for her! I hope the Democrats rake in the cash. Beausoir Nov 2015 #105
Coronations are EXPENSIVE. bvar22 Nov 2015 #106
I'd rather have beans with Bernie. n/t jtuck004 Nov 2015 #108
I'd rather have a cup of water with Bernie. n/t azmom Nov 2015 #112
There is that. The rest of my sentence is that because then we could invite lots of neighbors, jtuck004 Nov 2015 #145
Bernie's gonna have to eat a lotta beans in order to raise the money he promised Debbie Wasserman MADem Nov 2015 #126
and I thought Rmoney was tone deaf FlatBaroque Nov 2015 #110
She's tone deaf for raising money for down-ticket Democrats? Metric System Nov 2015 #122
Is she not supposed to pay staff, organize GOTV, run ads, etc? Bleacher Creature Nov 2015 #136
That is what our political system is all about, money. coyote Nov 2015 #149
Man, that really pisses me off BainsBane Nov 2015 #150
Amazing isn't it. nt DURHAM D Nov 2015 #162
And now Sanders is doing the very same thing as Clinton is doing..... MADem Nov 2015 #163
He's eligible to have such big ticket events, but how many does he have scheduled? Zero. reformist2 Nov 2015 #189
He only signed the pact with Debbie Wasserman Schultz last week. Here's how this will work--he MADem Nov 2015 #191
Great to hear it. moobu2 Nov 2015 #153
when I was a kid angryvet Nov 2015 #156
I've been to political dinners Eric J in MN Nov 2015 #167
This is a Silverback Convention. The Big Gorillas, with the Big Wallets. The Special People. MADem Nov 2015 #177
It's really entertaining reading all the criticisms of this event... brooklynite Nov 2015 #183
You do realize that you're proving our point - not even the 1% are rich enough to get access! reformist2 Nov 2015 #185
or...I need to be a voter when she's out campaigning. brooklynite Nov 2015 #186
Do you think that there is any aspect of our system Eric J in MN Nov 2015 #205
I wouldn't pay a penny bigwillq Nov 2015 #201
That's less than the admission for the event Sanders sufrommich Nov 2015 #223
Bernie is doing one too. It's good to raise money MineralMan Nov 2015 #226
I didn't rec this post because both parties (all candidates) TBF Nov 2015 #227
That price is not "chump change" yuiyoshida Nov 2015 #228
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