2016 Postmortem

bettyellen

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216. I am so fucking cynical.

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**** OFFICIAL DEBATE THREAD FOUR **** [View all] Agschmid Nov 2015 OP

M O'M: Crony capitalism. Perfect! NT antigop Nov 2015 #1

All capitalism is crony capitalism nt Cheese Sandwich Nov 2015 #10

REC L. Coyote Nov 2015 #2

The other ones get so slow... Agschmid Nov 2015 #5

The tweets thing is weird because theres a delay that sets the conversation back... bettyellen Nov 2015 #3

Wow...Bernie and MOM are absolutely great in this debate! Hepburn Nov 2015 #4

It's a tag team that's for sure. Agschmid Nov 2015 #6

And the male moderator tags up with O'M and Sanders. riversedge Nov 2015 #15

Meh... I don't really see that, moderators seem pretty fair. Agschmid Nov 2015 #25

Whereas Hillary is excellent. Metric System Nov 2015 #8

Hahahahahahaha! Hepburn Nov 2015 #23

+10 million! If. The media calls it unequivocally for HRC it will be so bogus nt riderinthestorm Nov 2015 #12

But she doesn't say what she would do instead of glass steal. Just more fluff from her Javaman Nov 2015 #7

Her website clearly states the policy positions she endorses. Agschmid Nov 2015 #9

She should lay it out a little then. Blue_In_AK Nov 2015 #18

Hard to do in a debate. Agschmid Nov 2015 #28

Quick, let's go to her website in the middle of the debate. Lol Javaman Nov 2015 #26

They all want you to go to their websites... Agschmid Nov 2015 #33

Those are not website urls. cui bono Nov 2015 #118

Yes that's accurate... Agschmid Nov 2015 #137

I'll take Krugman's word on it. Metric System Nov 2015 #14

Lol he also was for bailing out the banks. Nt Javaman Nov 2015 #35

Glass-Steagall reinstatement isn't enough on its own donf Nov 2015 #16

Agreed! mvd Nov 2015 #30

It makes me suspect we'll be offered an alternative that sounds winter is coming Nov 2015 #45

Yeah agreed mvd Nov 2015 #86

The plan isn't just to reinstate it jfern Nov 2015 #112

Here: tammywammy Nov 2015 #34

Thanks. Agschmid Nov 2015 #39

Lol yes I'll check it out in the middle dale of a debate lol Javaman Nov 2015 #40

I'm sure you can find time later to catch up on all the candidate's positions. tammywammy Nov 2015 #43

Right because during a debate is the wrong time for her to star her position. Nice try but fail nt Javaman Nov 2015 #61

funny but biting tweet restorefreedom Nov 2015 #11

Websites, everyone has one nt firebrand80 Nov 2015 #13

hillary loses DianeK Nov 2015 #17

I think Bernie made a mistake with his gun vote, but it's not near the mistake Hillary made on Iraq mvd Nov 2015 #19

Too many commercials! DesertRat Nov 2015 #20

The Best Twitter Debate Question, EVER!! LovingA2andMI Nov 2015 #21

Hillary was insulted by Bernie bkkyosemite Nov 2015 #22

Let her brush it off. Hepburn Nov 2015 #32

Well he did impugn her integrity Zorro Nov 2015 #167

Bernie needs to remind people HE WAS RIGHT on Financial Deregulaiton in the 90's Armstead Nov 2015 #24

Was he right on the Commodities Futures Modifications Act? Had a lot to do with the finanical Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #111

You certainly are good at deflecting and distorting Armstead Nov 2015 #223

Deflecting, no, just factual. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #224

You might want to link to all the other threads at the end of your last debate thread, winter is coming Nov 2015 #27

Hillary: Wall Street playing by the rules. Bernie: Who are u kidding? Their business model is fraud Cheese Sandwich Nov 2015 #29

That's gonna get retweeted all over, and should. n/t winter is coming Nov 2015 #51

holy crap i did not know this..trump would be proud restorefreedom Nov 2015 #31

Sanders going off on his "We are going to do a Political Revolutin" Where is it Bernie? riversedge Nov 2015 #36

I guess you don't pay attention to twitter Javaman Nov 2015 #55

Is Bernie conducting an orchestra? firebrand80 Nov 2015 #37

LOL! Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2015 #50

Meme: Business model of Wall Street is fraud. L. Coyote Nov 2015 #38

This is a great --- I mean excellent --- debate. Hepburn Nov 2015 #41

I would like to see more of O'Malley. femmocrat Nov 2015 #46

Sanders: still sick and tired of the damn emails Agschmid Nov 2015 #42

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! DianeK Nov 2015 #44

With a democrat they get that. Agschmid Nov 2015 #47

Hillary giving credit to Obama. bettyellen Nov 2015 #53

Hey guess what... Not a republican :) Agschmid Nov 2015 #56

Look at me!! Told you I see your posts. People are being mean to me elsewhere. bravenak Nov 2015 #206

This is why she wins so hard!!! She knows how to give credit where it is due. bravenak Nov 2015 #76

it matters! Gore was an idiot to dis Clinton. bettyellen Nov 2015 #83

And he LOST!!! I will not vote for anybody who refuses to give Obama credit!! bravenak Nov 2015 #87

I think it made him look like a judgey priss. Honestly. bettyellen Nov 2015 #129

Me too, honestly. bravenak Nov 2015 #152

I get you. Hillary is not taking any shit tonight. bettyellen Nov 2015 #158

Loving it to death. bravenak Nov 2015 #202

Bernie told everyone to turn off their TVs..... bettyellen Nov 2015 #210

. bravenak Nov 2015 #215

You must have HATED that video of Hillary talking to BLM activists then. cui bono Nov 2015 #225

Hmmmm. Not really. She did it differently. I liked her tone of voice and the fact that she evolved. bravenak Nov 2015 #226

LOL! Your pure hatred for Bernie is showing. cui bono Nov 2015 #227

They can disagree all they want to. I still say she was better in my eyes. bravenak Nov 2015 #228

mmkay... cui bono Nov 2015 #229

Clinton Caver? bravenak Nov 2015 #230

No, not scary. Just vile and pathetic. cui bono Nov 2015 #231

Are you a member? I see vileness here often. Some hidden, some not. bravenak Nov 2015 #232

I would NEVER participate in the spewing of such vile hatred as what has been documented from cui bono Nov 2015 #233

Why do you think about it so much then? Strange. bravenak Nov 2015 #234

I don't. I am reminded of it when I read hypocritical smear mongering posts from its members on here cui bono Nov 2015 #235

Poor you bravenak Nov 2015 #236

If you're lucky. n/t winter is coming Nov 2015 #65

Note to Hillary: Lose the phony laugh. Hepburn Nov 2015 #48

You dislike everything about her. I think we get it. Metric System Nov 2015 #68

No, I like her husband and voted for him twice. Hepburn Nov 2015 #81

Hill: I couldn't have said it better myself- (to Sanders) bettyellen Nov 2015 #49

Immigration stance L. Coyote Nov 2015 #52

Well said by him. suffragette Nov 2015 #58

Brilliant line by O'Malley donf Nov 2015 #69

That is a great quote. nt artislife Nov 2015 #109

love that! Kali Nov 2015 #119

Great answer HRC!!! nt riderinthestorm Nov 2015 #54

Yes, she is trying to get the debate back on track. femmocrat Nov 2015 #62

when all else fails for clinton Robbins Nov 2015 #57

Good on Hill for trashing the Republicans.... bettyellen Nov 2015 #59

Raw meat for the us dems. Joust pointing out the obvious.nt Javaman Nov 2015 #71

oh interesting... DianeK Nov 2015 #60

What she said!! Matariki Nov 2015 #63

Race relations the new topic. Agschmid Nov 2015 #64

Hoo boy. Race relations now. DU is going to get HOT tishaLA Nov 2015 #66

O'Malley said it. Agschmid Nov 2015 #72

Bill Clinton --@HillaryClinton has the best vision and ideas to move us forward and keep us safe. riversedge Nov 2015 #67

And what else would bill say? I'm for Bernie? Lol nt Javaman Nov 2015 #79

Big big BIG applause for HRC getting the discussion back on track riderinthestorm Nov 2015 #70

I'd like to hear a response to race relations that doesn't just discuss policing tishaLA Nov 2015 #73

Why don't they let MO'M speak? This is the first question AllyCat Nov 2015 #74

He started off so well. I would like to see him given equal time. femmocrat Nov 2015 #88

It drives me crazy... one_voice Nov 2015 #113

I thought I just heard OM say... GReedDiamond Nov 2015 #75

the donald is not happy restorefreedom Nov 2015 #77

What does he think constitutes a good debate? GreenPartyVoter Nov 2015 #95

one with him in it, of course. :) nt restorefreedom Nov 2015 #97

Oh, well of course! GreenPartyVoter Nov 2015 #104

:) nt restorefreedom Nov 2015 #116

O'Malley the first to,mention BLM!!! riderinthestorm Nov 2015 #78

Also the first to get the question... Agschmid Nov 2015 #85

Bernie giving it his best shot on race... better than before, but... bettyellen Nov 2015 #80

but what Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2015 #89

a little quick to recommend the economic solution. but much improved. bettyellen Nov 2015 #94

Who is winning the debate on Twitter? Still shifting. L. Coyote Nov 2015 #82

I'm surprised Martin O'Malley isn't higher Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2015 #84

Bigger O'Malley showing than normal. Agschmid Nov 2015 #91

hard to believe Robbins Nov 2015 #100

where is this poll so I can vote? New Earth Nov 2015 #136

It is an ongoing analysis of Twitter's feed. #DemDebate is the leading tag. L. Coyote Nov 2015 #217

Hillary, you mean the1960s when you were a republican? Lol nt Javaman Nov 2015 #90

Hillary touching on violence against young blacks. She looks pained. bettyellen Nov 2015 #92

Hillary again the first and only one to bring up supporting planned parenthood riversedge Nov 2015 #93

YES. And pushing for paid family leave. bettyellen Nov 2015 #96

It doesn't even get discussed at all in the other debates. Agschmid Nov 2015 #102

Yeah, that fucker Reagan took away the free tuition from U. Cal. students bullwinkle428 Nov 2015 #98

No shit...I was a UC studen when that asshole did that Hepburn Nov 2015 #105

as Sarah Silverman just tweeted.... tishaLA Nov 2015 #99

so proud to be a Dem. bettyellen Nov 2015 #101

exactly right Matariki Nov 2015 #103

Yup. Agschmid Nov 2015 #108

When all is said and done, despite all the bickering here, I can say our candidates tower over Metric System Nov 2015 #120

"proud every month for the rest of our life" MOM- on college costs. Well said. bettyellen Nov 2015 #106

pretty funny for the straight man Matariki Nov 2015 #117

I like O'Malley's College plan much better than Bernie's Joe the Revelator Nov 2015 #107

When I was a student it was free Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2015 #122

There's a reason is isn't anymore. Pell Grant expansion is much better than footing the bill for Joe the Revelator Nov 2015 #133

so students can be debt? Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2015 #140

Back in the 1960s when I was in undergrad school, the U of C had no tuition Hepburn Nov 2015 #143

Ronnie didn't like those educated hippies out protesting the Vietnam War. Manifestor_of_Light Nov 2015 #183

Where are the first three threads? cui bono Nov 2015 #110

Look for self-deleted threads started by Agschmid. n/t winter is coming Nov 2015 #115

Huh??? cui bono Nov 2015 #124

The threads take a LONG time to load after 200 or so replies, makes them unwieldy. Agschmid Nov 2015 #145

Yeah, got it. Good plan! cui bono Nov 2015 #149

Think those are the right ones. Agschmid Nov 2015 #126

Thanks! cui bono Nov 2015 #135

Bernie smile L. Coyote Nov 2015 #114

The real deal vs fake. nc4bo Nov 2015 #127

Big applause to Hillary on health care.... need proud support for ACA bettyellen Nov 2015 #121

big applause for the health insurance companies Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2015 #130

Bugs you that she got huge applause? Oh well, that sucks. bettyellen Nov 2015 #139

Need to support.... LovingA2andMI Nov 2015 #141

She wasn't being truthful. Its written in the aca that if there is a better system that is equal or Javaman Nov 2015 #148

I respectfully disagree. donf Nov 2015 #180

So right!! artislife Nov 2015 #199

Great point HRC on health care nt riderinthestorm Nov 2015 #123

Twitter photo L. Coyote Nov 2015 #125

ASK THE DAMN QUESTION: Is healthcare a right or not? nt antigop Nov 2015 #128

Yeah! Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2015 #134

We know Bernie's answer. nt antigop Nov 2015 #142

Good reply by Bernie. Medicare for all, not eliminating it! mvd Nov 2015 #147

But she didn't answer though Cheese Sandwich Nov 2015 #144

It is. Agschmid Nov 2015 #150

Bernie is the only one who said it is a right. nt antigop Nov 2015 #160

Yup that's accurate. Agschmid Nov 2015 #176

Bernie.. DianeK Nov 2015 #131

Bernie is... LovingA2andMI Nov 2015 #155

HUGE: @HillaryClinton: �We should have #DebtFreeCollege if you go to a public college or university. riversedge Nov 2015 #132

The moderator's treatment of O'Malley is fucking outrageous. DavidDvorkin Nov 2015 #138

I absolutely agree. nt femmocrat Nov 2015 #161

Yup (nt) Recursion Nov 2015 #175

Sorry Governor we've got to take one_voice Nov 2015 #146

they should give him equal time Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2015 #153

O'malley should have gotten more time Robbins Nov 2015 #173

He does keep getting cut off. Agschmid Nov 2015 #157

Yep. MOM is getting cheated on time. GoneFishin Nov 2015 #168

Clinton went new low on health care Robbins Nov 2015 #151

Bernie should back at her Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2015 #159

Real Low To The Floor.... LovingA2andMI Nov 2015 #165

Let O'Malley speak already! femmocrat Nov 2015 #154

Yep. He's being shorted on time. GoneFishin Nov 2015 #177

Sanders on college affordability L. Coyote Nov 2015 #156

Quick question because I missed the beginning. (Coming home from work) aidbo Nov 2015 #162

Some yes, one is national. Agschmid Nov 2015 #169

Thx, just curious 'cause I didn't recognize them. aidbo Nov 2015 #195

one from Face the Nation, one or two Iowa local - all CBS affiliated bettyellen Nov 2015 #172

Last segment of the debate... Agschmid Nov 2015 #163

These are the mothers @HillaryClinton met with who moved her that she just referenced. Another reaso riversedge Nov 2015 #164

I was not going to watch tonight, but glad I did. Great debate. Hepburn Nov 2015 #166

Yes. Very different than the clown car. Agschmid Nov 2015 #174

Which is why we should have a debate a few days after every one of theirs. n/t winter is coming Nov 2015 #188

this OBL answer is a winner tishaLA Nov 2015 #170

IMO, MOM beat it. Hepburn Nov 2015 #181

his was a very strong response, but even he started by saying tishaLA Nov 2015 #185

It was his attitude Hepburn Nov 2015 #187

I can't believe they didn't start with O'Malley!!! femmocrat Nov 2015 #171

MOM doing great IMO on the "crisis" question. Hepburn Nov 2015 #178

All of them had strong and weak moments. blackspade Nov 2015 #179

It really moved right along. Not boring in the least. femmocrat Nov 2015 #184

Very true. blackspade Nov 2015 #186

Sanders says we need criminal justice reform L. Coyote Nov 2015 #182

Everything #SheCanDo Agschmid Nov 2015 #189

Bernie Clearly won this debate.. DianeK Nov 2015 #190

except for the first 30 minutes, when he was in over his head. bettyellen Nov 2015 #197

Bernie told people to turn off their TV- OMG, he is FUCKED now, lol. bettyellen Nov 2015 #198

Hillary plays the gender card again. nt antigop Nov 2015 #191

She is a woman. Agschmid Nov 2015 #194

but she shown't be able to say it, or refer to a president as "her". bettyellen Nov 2015 #203

Nope. Agschmid Nov 2015 #209

the pres job is "everything she can do" ... bettyellen Nov 2015 #192

Again, I'm impressed with O'Mailly nt Javaman Nov 2015 #193

Kind of a canned response from Hillary.nt Javaman Nov 2015 #196

Oh shiz, did Bernie just tell us to turn off the TV?! aidbo Nov 2015 #200

he has a dream! bettyellen Nov 2015 #204

He does. People to be more engaged and less force fed what they should think.nt Javaman Nov 2015 #212

I am so fucking cynical. bettyellen Nov 2015 #216

He's right nt Javaman Nov 2015 #205

but, he is tripping! I love it, but this is the USA. bettyellen Nov 2015 #213

Throw them away! L. Coyote Nov 2015 #211

Women make up less than 20% of Congress. L. Coyote Nov 2015 #201

they said Hillary talking about women donors was her biggest spike moment. bettyellen Nov 2015 #214

"Please become part of the political revolution." Great end for #DemDebate. Thanks Bernie. L. Coyote Nov 2015 #207

Any of our candidates are vastly superior that the GOP carnival barkers blackspade Nov 2015 #208

Haven't Made A Comment Yet, I'm Going To Make A Prediction... ChiciB1 Nov 2015 #218

So far they are saying O'Malley. Agschmid Nov 2015 #219

Trending #2 still #DemDebate = 650K Tweets L. Coyote Nov 2015 #220

Bernie on the military L. Coyote Nov 2015 #221

Bernie on Minimum Wage L. Coyote Nov 2015 #222