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ProgressiveEconomist

(5,818 posts)
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 04:43 AM Aug 2012

WP editorial: "Paul Ryan's breathtakingly dishonest speech" [View all]

The author highlights the 2 biggest lies in Ryan's speech last night in Tampa:

--Blaming Obama for a GM plant closure announced in early June 2008;
--Claiming Obama 'raided Medicare' when Ryan's own budget includes the same savings from insurer and hospital overpayments;

But--with links to relevant documents--it also explores less blatant Ryan lies last night and wraps criticism of his mendacity in some very strong language for a mainstream newspaper:

WHAT'S YOUR OPINION? Have you seen editorial language attacking Romney-Ryan lies stronger than this from a regular columnist for mainstream media?

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"Paul Ryan's breathtakingly dishonest speech

By James Downie

Yesterday, at an ABC News panel, Mitt Romney pollster Neil Newhouse said, 'We’re not going to let our campaign be dictated by fact-checkers.' Wednesday's speech from Paul Ryan certainly took that disdain for truth to heart, as his address was filled with falsehoods from start to finish. ...

'[Obama] created a bipartisan debt commission(, the Simpson-Bowles commission). They came back with an urgent report. He thanked them, sent them on their way, and then did exactly nothing.' But Ryan was on that commission, and he voted against that 'urgent report.' Also, the president did not do 'exactly nothing': The White House released a debt plan last September, despite Republicans' best attempts to pretend it doesn't exist. Finally, if the crisis is so urgent, why does Ryan's own budget proposal not balance the budget until the 2030s? ...

'The stimulus was a case of political patronage, corporate welfare, and cronyism at their worst.' As Time’s Michael Grunwald, who has just published a new book about the stimulus, points out, 'Experts had warned that 5 percent of the stimulus could be lost to fraud, but investigators have documented less than $10 million in losses--about 0.001 percent.' ...

With tonight’s speech, Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan have doubled down on their twin bets of 2012 — that journalists will sit back and name winners and losers without regard to who is telling the truth, and that voters are too ignorant to care about the truth. Do not let them be right."

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I wonder what's different this time. JNelson6563 Aug 2012 #1
It is quite perplexing, Julie, but I have a Cha Aug 2012 #2
Funny you should say that oldsarge54 Aug 2012 #3
In the main, liars and bullies go on the attack anyway. CBHagman Aug 2012 #13
perhaps, finally, their own Carolina Aug 2012 #6
a couple reasons Cosmocat Aug 2012 #10
Yes--Ryan was humorless, unlikable, and unpresidential. Unlike Condi Rice, ProgressiveEconomist Aug 2012 #20
NPR's Mara Liasson fact-checked Ryan's speech as well Proud Liberal Dem Aug 2012 #19
I'm glad to see some of the media are paying attention davidpdx Aug 2012 #4
It's going to take a lot more than that. CBHagman Aug 2012 #14
No, but no means did I mean it's over davidpdx Aug 2012 #17
K&R nt avebury Aug 2012 #5
I can think of only 3 possible reasons why the MSM is calling them out magical thyme Aug 2012 #7
I wondered whether it's because the campaign has crossed the line from spin to lies renate Aug 2012 #29
"filled with falsehoods from start to finish" TahitiNut Aug 2012 #8
Clearly Cosmocat Aug 2012 #11
Willard and Lyin' Ryan make Richard Nixon hifiguy Aug 2012 #24
And tonight (Thursday) Romney speaks (while wearing custom-tailored asbestos pants). tclambert Aug 2012 #9
No erpowers Aug 2012 #12
Even Snotty Scottie got into the act... Historic NY Aug 2012 #15
Good to hear ailsagirl Aug 2012 #16
The Dems have to strongly counter these lies next week. WI_DEM Aug 2012 #18
unfortunately SemperEadem Aug 2012 #21
For sure the main steam media is not calling the Repukes on their lies/baseless claims!! hue Aug 2012 #23
Incessant lies--that's all the Repukes offer! They weave a terrible tangle/web of lies!! hue Aug 2012 #22
Ryan is holistically disingenuous and dishonest to the core of his indepat Aug 2012 #25
Kudos to the WAPO cdb120 Aug 2012 #26
amplify this editorial by sharing it and commenting grasswire Aug 2012 #27
Ryan seems bent on becoming a replacement for Tom Delay, ... CRH Aug 2012 #28
I wonder if it has ohheckyeah Aug 2012 #30
I'm actually surprised that the media are this reality based. lindysalsagal Aug 2012 #31
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