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LiberalArkie

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31. I read once that a person does not start out to be a conman, it is just that as they grow up

Sun Nov 15, 2015, 01:22 PM

Nov 2015

people always believe them. So there has to be something in the voice that makes people believe in someone just by listening to them. And I say voice because before TV was radio and outdoor speeches and sermons that caused people to fork over a lot of money.

For some reason Obama turns me off when he is speaking because I feel his is talking down to me, but only when I am watching him. I can just listen and not watch him and I am fine. He just seems to project an "air of superiority".

Bernie indeed presents the "grandfather" image.

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This is totally off the wall - but listening to a clip of HRC on NPR this morning made me wonder: [View all] scarletwoman Nov 2015 OP

Oh, great question! HerbChestnut Nov 2015 #1

Thank you. I appreciate that you "get" what I'm talking about! nt scarletwoman Nov 2015 #3

I've wondered the same. Throughout eons it seems voices have been used to stir RKP5637 Nov 2015 #2

Thanks! I'd love to see an osilliscope hooked up to recordings of every president for which scarletwoman Nov 2015 #6

It's easy to do with a PC and spectrum analyzer software Fumesucker Nov 2015 #56

Ben Carson's voice is soothing, until you process the words. Hoyt Nov 2015 #4

I have to agree with that... Hepburn Nov 2015 #5

The thing is - what if people don't process the words? scarletwoman Nov 2015 #9

Yep, it's sort of hypnotic. Then, you wake up and say WTF!!! n/t RKP5637 Nov 2015 #11

usually if someone doesn't like someone they can find anything to use to justify that. boston bean Nov 2015 #7

I understand that you think this may be some sort of back door anti-female criticism, but it's not. scarletwoman Nov 2015 #13

It's a well known sexist trope. I don't know how much more nicely to put it. boston bean Nov 2015 #14

Actually, it's not. I could listen to Elizabeth Warren's voice all day long. reformist2 Nov 2015 #16

No, it is a sexist trope. I don't care whose voice you could listen to all day long. boston bean Nov 2015 #17

So how do you explain the "dulcet" sounds of Dubya or Cheney? flor-de-jasmim Nov 2015 #19

I don't explain them at all. boston bean Nov 2015 #20

No, some female AND male voices are grating. Sarah Palin's voice is like tblue37 Nov 2015 #24

Two Words -- Michelle Obama Armstead Nov 2015 #40

That you make a distinction based on the sound of someone's voice boston bean Nov 2015 #45

Did you read the damn OP? That's what the subject is Armstead Nov 2015 #47

I did read the damn OP, as you put it. boston bean Nov 2015 #48

And so have I, so let's just leave it at that Armstead Nov 2015 #53

If that's what you think then I think you are not getting what I'm talking about. scarletwoman Nov 2015 #21

It is what I think and I think it is a sexist trope that's been around for a real long time. boston bean Nov 2015 #25

re: "What is the first woman president of the United States voice suppose to sound like?" thesquanderer Nov 2015 #32

Warren's voice grates on many people's nerves - too pedantic. nt Persondem Nov 2015 #39

Everything can be considred a well-known sexist trope if you choose it to be Armstead Nov 2015 #38

Some things are. Just because some believe, as you do, that boston bean Nov 2015 #41

Not a whole lot of logic in that statement Armstead Nov 2015 #42

made perfect logical sense to me in regards to what I was responding to. boston bean Nov 2015 #44

Think of male politicians whose voices you find annoying...To me, Ted Cruze for example Armstead Nov 2015 #46

So? I have described to you a common sexist trope. boston bean Nov 2015 #50

People are relatively shallow... msrizzo Nov 2015 #57

She sounds like Charlie Brown's teacher to me tularetom Nov 2015 #8

I do agree, it often sounds like she is speaking down to her subjects from her throne. RKP5637 Nov 2015 #10

Interesting post. And since you brought it up � NurseJackie Nov 2015 #12

I get it. As the *sound* of his voice goes, it's not particularly attractive, either. scarletwoman Nov 2015 #15

Sounds about right! sorechasm Nov 2015 #18

Wow! I love your point about grade school children! scarletwoman Nov 2015 #26

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Hard to find stuff about influencing others with your voice. Just about every thing LiberalArkie Nov 2015 #23

Thank you! That's very interesting. scarletwoman Nov 2015 #27

I read somewhere that Rebkeh Nov 2015 #28

Thank you! I appreciate your post. scarletwoman Nov 2015 #29

I read once that a person does not start out to be a conman, it is just that as they grow up LiberalArkie Nov 2015 #31

There is a great deal of study about such things, but none of it works the way you think it does... Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #30

Fair point. However, what I'm really wondering about is if there is measurable auditory frequency scarletwoman Nov 2015 #33

Well there is, but those voices would all sound very different from one another and the similarity Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #52

Except what I'm thinking of is whether there might be some way of electronically measuring voices. scarletwoman Nov 2015 #54

Consider height Rebkeh Nov 2015 #58

Interesting. I find Bernie Sanders voice and demeanor abrasive. Whether he is hard of hearing, or livetohike Nov 2015 #34

After watching last night's debate, I also began to worry about how those MBS Nov 2015 #35

Barney Frank has a speech impediment. There's a lot that goes into sufrommich Nov 2015 #36

True but Rebkeh Nov 2015 #37

I don't think so,Frank has had the impediment sufrommich Nov 2015 #49

Good to know n/t Rebkeh Nov 2015 #59

Nixon - Kennedy Debates Armstead Nov 2015 #43

Yes, that's interesting. scarletwoman Nov 2015 #51

I think you have a valid point. There are newscasters I can't stand shraby Nov 2015 #55