2016 Postmortem

sabrina 1

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217. I started out on a totally unmoderated forum taken over by Bush/Fox supporters. At the time it was

Sun Nov 15, 2015, 10:13 PM

Nov 2015

fine to threaten, hijack with viruses, or do whatever possible to silence the 'left'. I learned how to get around all their tricks and didn't just survive, but learned a lot about 'talking points' and tactics which has become very useful. Many of us Dems have noted the similarity between those right wing tactics and the third way. I was watching a conversation a few years where Third Way Dems put forward the idea of 'emulating Rove' who they claimed, knew 'how to win'. It was revealing to say the least. I thought we were supposed to fight dirty political tricksters, not become them.

Anyhow, thanks for your comments, I'm not sorry I had those experiences, it makes it much harder for the would be 'ankle biters' to gain any traction. I'm sure you learned a lot also!

Have a great evening!

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Bernie Sanders' Superb Civil Rights Record the REASON for the Rovian Smears We are Seeing. [View all] sabrina 1 Nov 2015 OP

Exclusive: College Alumni Raise Doubts About Bernie Sanders Campaign Photo Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #1

Thanks, THAT'S the Talking Point I'm Talking about. Btw, where was Hillary while Bernie was getting sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #4

Relax. Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #7

Stalking is creepy! sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #8

Results of jury duty. I think stalking is creepy too. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2015 #153

Thank you for the results. I had a feeling it would be alerted. It usually is. sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #171

Did someone say Sanders was winning all fifty states? NCTraveler Nov 2015 #14

I repeat, Stalking is Creepy sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #21

Who is stalking you? NCTraveler Nov 2015 #28

This OP is about Bernie's V Hillary's Civil Rights Era activities. I will repeat Stalking is Creepy! sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #35

Who is stalking you? You brought that up, not me. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #38

If not stalking, you are needling the wrong person LiberalLovinLug Nov 2015 #72

Sabrina1 made the claim she was being stalked. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #76

Yes, it is serious and has nothing to with you. Don''t worry about me, I am perfectly sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #80

Sure thing. I just hate to see such claims bandied about with nothing to back them up. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #83

No it wasn't just a heat of the moment thing. Don't worry, most people know exactly what it's about. sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #87

Doesn't seem like it's being handled fine. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #106

Trust me, it's being handled. Now, if we could keep this thread ON TOPIC sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #107

most ankle-biting _____ are stalkers stupidicus Nov 2015 #189

A pretty accurate description! Thank you! sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #201

you're welcome sabrina stupidicus Nov 2015 #214

We must have been on the same boards lol! I appreciate now all I learned from those right wingers. sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #215

I was a long time Slate/The Fray participant stupidicus Nov 2015 #216

I started out on a totally unmoderated forum taken over by Bush/Fox supporters. At the time it was sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #217

A heat of the moment thing for Sabrina???!!!! bvar22 Nov 2015 #97

I noted that but decided to let that one go. But I will certainly not allow stalkers sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #102

I asked her to show where she was being stalked. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #104

Not your problem. Second request. Could we keep this thread ON TOPIC, which is sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #116

It sounded like you were asking for a link to the claim.. LiberalLovinLug Nov 2015 #92

I asked the poster that made the claim to back it up. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #120

Thanks, it's part of what I was referring to regarding stalking. I believe the goal is to derail sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #122

Did you simply ask the OP Sheepshank Nov 2015 #136

Stalkers are creepy! sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #204

the exact same words I'd used several months ago to one of your Bernie compadres, stalkers Sheepshank Nov 2015 #213

You're way out of line on this thread. Suggest you self-delete b/4 you further embarrass yourself. Scuba Nov 2015 #147

It's a waste of time. zeemike Nov 2015 #85

The problem is, if you have a good memory and remember what has been posted here... George II Nov 2015 #48

If they are going to make such a serious claim, they should back it up a little. nt. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #54

Don't worry, I told you, it's under control. sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #140

What about people who have been shown to SwampG8r Nov 2015 #183

Ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ........ !!!. polly7 Nov 2015 #187

Are you the duer who had her loss of a child mocked? SwampG8r Nov 2015 #191

Yes, I am. polly7 Nov 2015 #192

I'm sorry SwampG8r Nov 2015 #194

No, it's ok! polly7 Nov 2015 #195

We both know now SwampG8r Nov 2015 #196

You're right, it never gets ok. polly7 Nov 2015 #197

One of DU's lowest moments, to mock a mother who has lost a child! sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #205

Yes, that would also fit the category. n/t sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #202

Yeah it is UglyGreed Nov 2015 #49

Prove that somebody said that. Ken Burch Nov 2015 #182

"where was Hillary while Bernie was getting View profile arrested?" George II Nov 2015 #19

Hillary and Bernie are of the same generation. She didn't spend the entire Civil Rights era in High sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #22

In 1962, the date of that photograph, she was only 14 or 15 years old. George II Nov 2015 #24

And then what? What did she do throughout the rest of the Civil Rights era that could even compare sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #27

HOW did "her campaign attempt to Swift Boat Bernie"?????? You keep saying that but then stop there! George II Nov 2015 #40

My best friend was her age. dogman Nov 2015 #115

Since she was a Goldwater girl, floriduck Nov 2015 #50

Then people need to know what her record is. HER campaign chose to go this route. Bernie was sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #64

I completely agree with you. nm floriduck Nov 2015 #79

You are right... ljm2002 Nov 2015 #141

I absolutely agree. This requires an in depth article comparing both candidates, who are from the sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #143

You have got to be crazy Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #179

Super Pacs, not the candidates, btw, Bernie doesn't have a Super Pac due to the fact that sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #203

What a coincidence!!! bvar22 Nov 2015 #78

I just mentioned that many people in High School at the time participated in the Civil Rights sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #82

The majority of my high school friends were also involved. bvar22 Nov 2015 #89

Perhaps it's not swift boating maybe someone else FloridaBlues Nov 2015 #112

Still in high school. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #139

And? Lots of people who were in High School were involved in the Civil Rights Movement back then. sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #150

Okay, what was Sanders doing for civil rights when he was fourteen? Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #151

What was Hillary doing when she was in High School? She was in High School during the Civil Rights sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #152

The question was what was Sanders doing when he was fourteen for civil rights? Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #175

He wasn't working for Goldwater or any other Republican. sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #206

You need to go back to 1955, what was Sanders doing for civil rights when he was 14? Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #207

Would be interesting to have a breakdown. I saw no way to get directly involved when I-- eridani Nov 2015 #180

Thank you. I do think that people simply know what is right and wrong from a very early age as you sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #208

Hillary? She was trying to join the Marine Corps that day. Scuba Nov 2015 #148

Bam!!!! 840high Nov 2015 #158

That's Bernie. Look at the mouth, nose, jaws, and of course the glasses. brush Nov 2015 #164

No, it's not going anywhere thanks to the people who are making sure these Corporate funded sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #165

wow.... DianeK Nov 2015 #32

Thank you, as I said, stalking other DUers is creepy. And you are correct, it absolutey does no good sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #36

Who is stalking you? rbrnmw Nov 2015 #75

Oh, she has a lot of stalkers. polly7 Nov 2015 #95

Oh no, I toss it where it belongs. sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #174

It's called 'Swift Boating' AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #88

If you take a good look zalinda Nov 2015 #166

Trivial. The college had told Bernie's campaign it was Bernie. Ken Burch Nov 2015 #181

We know it's Bernie. It is called Swift Boating and his supporters cannot give an inch to those sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #190

K/R UglyGreed Nov 2015 #2

How does Time have an axe to grind? RandySF Nov 2015 #3

Since we've already caught Hillary's Super Pac, run by David Brock, attempting to plant stories sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #5

Are You Kidding Me? Time-Warner is Hillary's 7th Largest Donor! 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #13

And I'm sure, the old Right Wing Smear King, David Brock, already CAUGHT trying to plant sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #39

Exactly. The last time I got the "Bernie can win GE because of RW attack ads will sink him" canard 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #63

Excellent response, they really are having a much more difficult time with their talking points sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #94

Same axe as Clinton's e-mails Armstead Nov 2015 #101

Actually I disagree wrt these calculated smears against a candidate, planted in the media, as this sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #124

When We Stand Together - No Citizen Need Settle For The Lesser Of Two Corporate Evils - Go Bernie Go cantbeserious Nov 2015 #6

You can say that again and I know you will. sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #11

...^ that 840high Nov 2015 #159

He does not have the best record in congress on Civil Rights BainsBane Nov 2015 #9

You missed a word in my statement, but that's okay. Hint, you are misquoting me. sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #10

Divide the country by talking about black activism? BainsBane Nov 2015 #18

My instant reaction to this story being posted here by the person posting it was randys1 Nov 2015 #29

"whitesplaining" is a crock LiberalLovinLug Nov 2015 #86

Nope, looks like whitesplaining to me randys1 Nov 2015 #93

Okidoky LiberalLovinLug Nov 2015 #100

I am a Bernie supporter as long as he is in the race. This has nothing to do with the 2 candidates randys1 Nov 2015 #103

Fair enough LiberalLovinLug Nov 2015 #130

Why do you support Bernie over Hillary? sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #209

Wall street, bankers, economy, minimum wage, beholding to the randys1 Nov 2015 #211

Yes, those are some of the reasons why I want a candidate who represents the people AND am not just sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #212

It's made up stuff that didn't get much traction. The people who truly care about the issue of sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #146

That worked out so well after Netroots and Seattle, didn't it? BainsBane Nov 2015 #108

They are keeping it up, it seems. randys1 Nov 2015 #109

It's fine to support his record BainsBane Nov 2015 #132

I am even rethinking my position on it but NOT because I doubt Bernie's credibility randys1 Nov 2015 #133

Lol, of course it was. Btw, do you know anything about this 'person' you speak of? sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #113

Who, what? What person? randys1 Nov 2015 #114

Well there you go, even you don't know what you are talking about. And I thought it was just me. Not sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #117

The person is you. Is Berniesupportersplaining better? randys1 Nov 2015 #118

No such thing. 840high Nov 2015 #160

LOL LOL Oh wow, and on a liberal message board no less.... randys1 Nov 2015 #188

I believe I've already stated my position on this. I work with people who actually are doing sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #41

Nobody said that for Christ sake Armstead Nov 2015 #105

The word 'almost' in my statement was ignored by that poster. So you are correct. sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #199

The racially divisive memes have been coming from Hillary's campaign. leveymg Nov 2015 #156

Do you often take offense for imaginary slights? Several paragraphs of outrage based on misreading xocet Nov 2015 #67

Well said BB! mcar Nov 2015 #126

Attacking one's strength, aka "swiftboating" corkhead Nov 2015 #12

rather sad this is what team h learned artislife Nov 2015 #15

No it doesn't work. It only worked on Kerry because they did not fight back. That isn't going to sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #16

Absolutely. And we have to do this on not only DU but on jwirr Nov 2015 #26

Oh definitely. They raised the issue, now we need to compare these two Candidates' history during sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #31

I suggest that the comparison needs to be from 1960 to today. jwirr Nov 2015 #43

Who are you trying to educate, specifically? randys1 Nov 2015 #33

Actually most people who watched the Swift Boat smears against Kerry don't need much sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #42

Voters. jwirr Nov 2015 #44

Which ones? randys1 Nov 2015 #90

Do not much care - here on DU it is just an issue - but the jwirr Nov 2015 #96

I know why these threads are started. Bernie supporters dont need to be reminded randys1 Nov 2015 #98

Since Hillary's Campaign is attempting to Swift Boat a good democratic candidate for the WH sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #111

"But where was Hillary?" George II Nov 2015 #17

Well, she did see Dr. King and shake Dr. King's hand Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #20

Me neither. It's too bad that Hillary's Campaign decided to go the Swift Boat route, because all it sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #25

Thisis the kind of crap in politics Bernie HATES! in_cog_ni_to Nov 2015 #46

Money is what makes it possible. And we can USE their dirty tactics to highlight what has now sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #52

LOL. nt Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #23

Btw, I know lots of people who were younger than that during that era who were protesting sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #34

In HS age 16, 17 at a local college I heard lectures by Julian Bond, Angela Davis, Bucky Fuller, appalachiablue Nov 2015 #172

Yes, I've talked to many people who were in HS and like you, were very active during that era. sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #173

Now they are trying to swift boat him AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #30

Never forget, it was a shock to me when I learned it, they have the MASTER of SMEARS working sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #45

AND....his fame came from the book he wrote about his smear campaign against Bill and Hillary! in_cog_ni_to Nov 2015 #56

Airc, he was the one who started the whole thing, no doubt for money as the man doesn't seem to sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #62

Swiftboating Bernie is not going to work. in_cog_ni_to Nov 2015 #37

Absolutely. And it raises more questions about Hillary and what she was doing back then than sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #47

Deeply involved in the Civil Rights Movement? Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #53

Bernie Sanders Has an Excellent Civil Rights Record. MineralMan Nov 2015 #51

Nobody is 'browbeating' anyone AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #57

Flashy Signature Line MineralMan Nov 2015 #58

Flashy attempt at changing the subject AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #59

Yes, many Bernie Sanders supporters are browbeating black people Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #68

Define 'browbeating'? AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #71

all the "he marched with King" bullshit? Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #123

It's called the truth AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #125

Sanders, himself said Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #127

Some Hillary supporters are acting AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #128

I don't, really Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #129

List the Racist OPs by Sanders supporters then AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #131

I don't have to Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #134

Given the amount of OPs by her supporters leveling charges of racism against Sanders AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #135

Yes, actually you do unless you want the allegation to be dismissed. That of course is up to you. sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #210

What?? You are calling telling the truth 'browbeating'? I wonder if you realize how much that sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #177

It's been told 46,947,930 times at this blog Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #178

That talking point went the way of the dinosaur quite a while ago. I am offended by smears and lies sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #168

People have a right to the facts. Only then can they make informed decisions. These disgusting sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #60

The Facts Are That He Has an Excellent Civil Rights Record MineralMan Nov 2015 #61

The Fact is that there is a Rovian attempt to hid that FACT. THAT is what this OP is about. sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #66

Well said, MM. Your words will as usual fall on deaf and deluded ears. But they were Number23 Nov 2015 #121

They become more right wing every week AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #55

Yes, they do. To go to the lengths of using Rove's Swift Boat tactics, is about as right wing sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #144

I. Keep. Reposting. This. But. It's. Being. Ignored. whatchamacallit Nov 2015 #65

It isn't being ignored. It's just that people will no longer go into those threads. If you want to sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #70

I did originally whatchamacallit Nov 2015 #73

Okay, I just rec'd it. But part of the reason why it might not have received sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #77

I don't mind at all, Sabrina whatchamacallit Nov 2015 #81

I understand completely whatchamacallit and I love your posts. Not everyone is going to sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #84

I'm not beyond reproach whatchamacallit Nov 2015 #91

I would take any criticism from you the same way, whatchamacallit, and have received plenty from sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #99

If he wants their votes, then yes he does have that responsibility mythology Nov 2015 #110

Well, Sabrina, like you I believe that the establishment is deliberately skewing PatrickforO Nov 2015 #69

Polls of what people really care about say we are not in 'la-la' land. That is why they are so sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #74

yes skewing....la la land may be more real than you imagine Sheepshank Nov 2015 #138

The dumbest part of that smear... dorkzilla Nov 2015 #119

"Did Bernie really march with MLK?"is the 2015 version of birtherism and swift boating. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #137

They learned well from Rove. And each time they do it reflects badly on their own sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #142

Precisely... MrMickeysMom Nov 2015 #145

Yes, and if they think this time their Swift Boating funded by Corporate money is going to go sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #149

Attack your opponent on his strength. merrily Nov 2015 #154

It worked, BEFORE we all knew about these devious, machievellian individuals. It has lost its sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #155

We need to spread the word as best we can. "The left of the left" has almost zero media voice. merrily Nov 2015 #157

We are. The truth never fails in he face of lies. All we have to do is tell the truth about Bernie's sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #161

"Tell the truth about the truth and tell the truth about the lies." merrily Nov 2015 #162

K&R! KoKo Nov 2015 #163

Doing the right thing for 53 years and counting. Half-Century Man Nov 2015 #167

Yes, he was the right choice to step forward at this point in our history. His record is very hard sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #169

Too often do we confuse notoriety for nobility. Half-Century Man Nov 2015 #170

It Berns them that he is real, proven, and true. senz Nov 2015 #176

Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Nov 2015 #184

"But where was Hillary?". She was a Goldwater Girl at the time, and they (Republicans) NorthCarolina Nov 2015 #185

Did someone say, "Goldwater Sachs"? jalan48 Nov 2015 #186

I had noticed that myself davidthegnome Nov 2015 #193

Thoughtful post, thank you. The only reason for this OP is because we know that sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #200

K&R H8ers gonna H8 Cosmic Kitten Nov 2015 #198