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jenmito

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11. Here ya go:
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 08:34 PM
Aug 2012

Members of the right-wing media have promoted the claim that President Obama has "gutted" Medicare in order to fund health care reform, while GOP vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan is attempting to preserve the program. In fact, though Obama and Ryan have advocated similar spending reductions, the Affordable Care Act would not affect Medicare benefits, while Ryan's plan is projected to harm current and future seniors' care. :

http://www.mediamatters.org/print/research/2012/08/16/a-guide-to-the-right-wing-medias-dishonest-medi/189385

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Ryan's lying to YOU. n/t grasswire Aug 2012 #1
funny responses NMDemDist2 Aug 2012 #2
Ryan opens things wide up for the Democrats to attack the Congressional GOP starroute Aug 2012 #3
This is what happens when you triangulate, compromise with, and capitulate to the Republicans. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #4
Obama's cuts impact providers. Ryan's cuts impact beneficiaries. HUGE difference. n/t jenmito Aug 2012 #5
You know, the link provided by the OP indicates that both Obama's cuts and Ryan' cuts AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #6
My proof is from your post. You just bolded different parts... jenmito Aug 2012 #9
What you highlighted doesn't contradict the source cited by the OP, but reinforces the fact AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #10
Here ya go: jenmito Aug 2012 #11
Apples and oranges. The Guardian UK source cited by the OP is not part "of the right-wing media." AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #12
So you think Obama took $716B TWICE? Once for a "budget plan" and once for the ACA? jenmito Aug 2012 #14
No. What I believe is that the OP cited the Guardian UK AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #15
It's the same AMOUNT in cuts, but as the last sentences of each paragraph state, jenmito Aug 2012 #17
The last sentences of each paragraph speak for themselves. They DO NOT STATE that AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #18
Yes they do: jenmito Aug 2012 #19
Both want cuts. The OP's source indicates that the cuts are the "same cuts." Deny that if you will AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #20
OMG! I will not cut and paste the paragraphs which prove my point any more. For jenmito Aug 2012 #21
These are Republicans. Don't bother them with facts. It just confuses them. HopeHoops Aug 2012 #7
Ryan's SIGNATURE (pic, pdf via house.gov): knew of plant closing in June 2008 Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2012 #8
The UK has a stake in this race, too ailsagirl Aug 2012 #13
Be sure to read the comments section. CBHagman Aug 2012 #16
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