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2016 Postmortem
Showing Original Post only (View all)Why I don't Trust Hillary Clinton! [View all]
1) Her support for the disastrous Iraq War which has led to the current state of affairs in the ME which many ordinary people were able to predict back when the Cheney/Bush administration were obviously lying to the American people. Well it was obvious to many of us and to some good Reps like Bernie Sanders.Iow, Hillary is a War Hawk and that is the last thing we need leading this country right now. We need to put an end to our Imperial Wars which have placed this country in MORE danger.
2) Her close ties to Wall St which go way back BEFORE 9/11. There is no way any politician can take the enormous amounts of money distributed into our elections by Wall St and other huge Corporations, and claim they are not influenced by that.
Anyone who doubts that, only has to look at Hillary's vote on the Bankruptcy Bill, a Bill she correctly opposed while she was First Lady.
Here Elizabeth Warren discusses that very vote and how and perhaps why, Hillary changed her mind when she became a Senator, AFTER receiving huge donations FROM Wall St:
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3) Her support for the horrible Welfare Reform Bill which caused several people to quit her husband's administration in protest of his signing of the Bill and Hillary's work to 'get votes for it' as she has admitted. That Bill has created an even more dire situation for Poor, Single Mothers and their Children. One in Six American children go to bed hungry every day now, and that Bill took away a safety net very much needed for those families
It did, howeve, force mothers into the workforce to do menial jobs, benefiting Corporations with the prospect of cheap labor. So there is that.
4) While she SAYS she opposes Citizens United, she takes ADVANTAGE of it by accepting Super Pacs working for her campaign through which, thanks to CU, untold amounts of money can pour into campaigns through a back door and we the people cannot know who the donors are or how much they are donating.
5) Her record on major issues has constantly changed over the years. She has failed to be supportive of major policies that benefit minorities AT THE TIME she was asked to make those decisions.
But then, when the political winds have shifted, others have done the heavy lifting, she will claim to have 'evolved', too late!
6) On the TPP and other Trade Policies, she has been WRONG, over and over again. Again, seeing the political atmosphere she shifts her position during campaign season, leaving us to wonder, but 'what if she wins'? Will she change AGAIN?
7) The Keystone Pipeline. She refused to state her position on that awful, potential environmental disaster initially, telling us nothing about where SHE stood on the issue. Then again, changed her mind under pressure from many groups to get a definitive answer from someone who is asking the public to elect her.
8) One the biggest turnoffs for me in a politician is the USE OF RELIGION as a reason for denying Civil Rights to any candidate. When Hillary invoked the 'Sanctity of Marriage' argument just two years ago in opposing Marriage Equality, I found it to be most disturbing.
9) Her refusal to go with the $15 dollar minimum wage policy knowing that even that is hardly going to allow workers to live in any kind of luxury. I have a definite reaction to wealthy people deciding that the rest of us don't even deserve to be paid a fair wage for the work we do.
There are other reasons, but I cannot trust any politician who makes mistake after mistake on major issues because even if we accept they were all mistakes, what guarantee do we have that such a politician won't make more of them IF we give them the job they are asking for??
Sen. Sanders has been consistent throughout his long political career on the issues. While circumstances do change for a politician once the reach the WH, I trust him to do his very best, to FIGHT for what he has always believed in.
Those are some of the reasons why I trust Sanders rather than Hillary to be the next President of the US.
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Yes, DOMA, that kind of fell under her 'Sanctity of Marriage' and whole history regarding Gay rights
sabrina 1
Nov 2015
#5
1) Iow, she 'trusted' the most obvious lying administration ever on her Iraq Vote? That's even worse
sabrina 1
Nov 2015
#6
1) Her state was MY state at that time. She was simply massively wrong about Iraq
sabrina 1
Nov 2015
#14
So is her stated "strong" support for H-1B and likely other "guest worker" programs "liberal"?
cascadiance
Nov 2015
#45
Anything that helps Corporations. I didn't think of that, but yes, that is another reason not to
sabrina 1
Nov 2015
#54
Not when it's being used to replace American workers with cheap foreign labor..
whathehell
Nov 2015
#75
You have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. I really suggest you stop.
beerandjesus
Nov 2015
#127
More than 80 percent of H-1B visa holders are approved to be hired at wages below..
frylock
Nov 2015
#121
Well, she says in her own words that she STRONGLY SUPPORTS EXPANDING this OUTSOURCING program!!
cascadiance
Nov 2015
#140
You are really selectively DEAF maam. Her first sentence she states her H-1B program commitment...
cascadiance
Nov 2015
#144
BULLSHIT! H-1B is NOT an immigration bill. I would rather they IMMIGRATE here!!
cascadiance
Nov 2015
#156
Ted Cruz agrees with YOU that corporate profits are more important than American lives.
beerandjesus
Nov 2015
#154
Sorry, but you do NOT know what is going on with H-1B like many of us in the trenches do!!!
cascadiance
Nov 2015
#113
Really - so tell me, what anti-fraud measures have been added since inception?
MaggieD
Nov 2015
#143
Provide us some quotes from people that say there haven't been fraud in it...
cascadiance
Nov 2015
#145
Yes, thank you. It's hard to include all the reasons why I do not trust any candidate who takes
sabrina 1
Nov 2015
#68
Oh I think he's going to be bringing it up. I'm surprised if it's so bad for HIM, she hasn't brought
sabrina 1
Nov 2015
#46
What's sad about that vote is that she was right initially, if you watch the Elizabeth
sabrina 1
Nov 2015
#20
Yes, maybe I gave her too much credit back then. She was probably more interested in
sabrina 1
Nov 2015
#47
Yeah, I'm at that point also, not trusting at all of politicians. If it were not for his long
sabrina 1
Nov 2015
#48
Lol, aw, that was very nice of you to say. Same goes for you. I'm just glad Bernie has so many smart
sabrina 1
Nov 2015
#49
No, are you? Sanders is wiping the floor with all of the Republicans right now. Trump says he
sabrina 1
Nov 2015
#51
A general election campaign against a well funded GOP candidate is indeed a fight
Gothmog
Nov 2015
#175
How can you refute that he pulls more moderates and republicans than Clinton?
Bread and Circus
Nov 2015
#73
If money is not important, why do I keep getting e-mails and letters from DNC?
Gothmog
Nov 2015
#174
You couldn't be more wrong. Had we had a president like Bernie the country wouldn't
sabrina 1
Nov 2015
#151
Yes, we do need some new stuff. That is why we are support Sanders to end all this old
sabrina 1
Nov 2015
#42
Actually when she was First Lady I liked her a lot. But i was a lot less informed then
sabrina 1
Nov 2015
#43
I don't trust her because she has behaved one way all her political life and is now espousing
merrily
Nov 2015
#50
I couldn't agree with you more. No matter who wins, it will be a huge fight. But Bernie WILL fight
sabrina 1
Nov 2015
#55
He has worked productively across the aisle to pass important legislation. I think he will do better
merrily
Nov 2015
#59
This is one of the greatest threads after this weekend, Sabrina... It needs to be formally laid out!
MrMickeysMom
Nov 2015
#60
If the Dem party wants to win, they will have to start backing the only candidate who defeats ALL
sabrina 1
Nov 2015
#67
She can't win in the Western states, and by Western I mean West of the Mississippi River.
Major Hogwash
Nov 2015
#102
That is a very big issue and all candidates SHOULD be asked who they will appoint to their
sabrina 1
Nov 2015
#69
Yes that was when I woke up and realized we were being scammed. It was a rude awakening
sabrina 1
Nov 2015
#81
This is primary season. Enough with that old argument 'we have to vote for someone
sabrina 1
Nov 2015
#77
Yep - they have demanded that progressives hold our noses and vote for their shitty candidates
Maedhros
Nov 2015
#79
This election has revealed a lot of what they tried to hide for so long. Yes, we do have a
sabrina 1
Nov 2015
#80
For me it began after the Iraq War vote. Then yes, the 'impeachment is off the table' further
sabrina 1
Nov 2015
#83
A Clinton White House Will Likely Increase the Prospects for Terror in the West
eridani
Nov 2015
#106
This goes to show that being smart enough to see and quick student isn't enough...
MrMickeysMom
Nov 2015
#115
That is so true. Take away the money from all of them and this would be a very
sabrina 1
Nov 2015
#131
On a bright side, if she gets elected then at least we won't have to worry about her running again!
nolabels
Nov 2015
#130
You know what more than 60% of Democrats really don't give a crap they trust her
Historic NY
Nov 2015
#147