Every time I try to be receptive to Clinton -- She does something awful like the 9-11 thing

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89. So in other words

It does not matter that she voted for war. Has supported and advocated for warlike responses and bombings in the Middle East. It does not matter her past positions on Same Sex Marriage or on a host of economic interests from Keystone to the PPP, someone told you she was a nice private person and you liked her when you met her once.

I am sure she is a nice person. I find, with some exceptions, people with hundreds of millions in the bank generally can be very nice and express concern for others. I am also pretty sure she is smart and competent. However, she is also ambitious beyond all measures including running another race for president when it was a guarantee that she would not have enthusiastic support throughout the democratic party because of her past votes. Most authentic public servant politicians who vote so wrong on a war, try to redeem themselves by becoming statesmen and statewomen, they do not try to reward their ambitions by running for president again.

2008 when she was also annointed by the establishment and the media as the democratic candidate but lost when people actually had a chance to vote should have told her that she was not universally supported by democrats. Mostly cause of the war vote which Obama did not make. Instead of doing the right thing, she double downed on bad power money politics only to reward this ambition. In doing so she actually risks the democratic party losing the election to republicans.

Yes Bernie and OMalley have their own electoral issues but also have some favorable elements in this year -- mostly being not part of the establishment and neither voting for the Iraq War. However, if Hillary had not run or more importantly had not run on money and power, we might have had a more robust candidate slate with people with no issues. Since we do not, it might be good to not go with the candidate (Hillary) who both risks the election and has major policy warts.