2016 Postmortem

R B Garr

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85. Wrong. That's not the start of what Sanders said.

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 10:18 AM

Nov 2015

Here's what he said that had to do with her ENTIRE career (his words). Apparently only he can talk about her entire career, but she can't respond about her entire career. His comments are generalized slurs taken from his well-worn and one-trick-pony stump speech:

This is taken from about the 1:01 hour mark of the 2-hour debate. You truncated to fit your own agenda:

"....why do, why over HER POLITICAL CAREER, has Wall Street been a major, the major campaign contributor to Hillary Clinton..."

The part you quoted starts around the 1:03 mark. She had previously had a full and complete answer about the influence of her contributors until Sanders started his meandering stump speech, trying to weave her into part of it. That's when she separated herself from his musings with this answer.

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NYT Editorial:Her Effort To Tug On Americans Heartstrings INSTEAD Of Explaining Her Wall Street TIES [View all] Segami Nov 2015 OP

first rec here ibegurpard Nov 2015 #1

I support Hillary persuadable Nov 2015 #90

and it backfired, predictably.... Now she's known as "Guilliani" peacebird Nov 2015 #2

HRC demwing Nov 2015 #4

Oh, I thought it stood for Republican-lite. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2015 #5

LOL! Nice! peacebird Nov 2015 #6

911y 9iul1an1? MisterP Nov 2015 #12

She's H9llary now jfern Nov 2015 #73

Even Giukiani isn't known as "Guilliani"! That's better than Sanders' typical: George II Nov 2015 #20

No, noun verb 911 woman is far worse than noun verb oligarch. merrily Nov 2015 #27

+1 BeanMusical Nov 2015 #54

amazing isn't it about how she put her effort into roguevalley Nov 2015 #63

Quite so. The 9/11 card and the woman card. So fake. n/t Betty Karlson Nov 2015 #69

"911 911 woman 911" lol senz Nov 2015 #97

$125,000,000 from speeches.... Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #3

Most of them, "behind locked doors". -nt- 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #9

Sanders can and he is helping America see it. merrily Nov 2015 #28

She gives a helluva speech, dontcha know? senz Nov 2015 #100

I am sure she told them in those speeches they paid so much for that the speech and campaign money Dustlawyer Nov 2015 #101

This scathing piece is an EDITORIAL, not an opinion column! Divernan Nov 2015 #7

Yup! Segami Nov 2015 #10

Well at least you were honest and posted the REAL headline, thanks! George II Nov 2015 #21

+1 Excellent distinction! Attempting to exploit 911 cannot sit well with a NY paper. merrily Nov 2015 #31

Talk about calling someone out! Hepburn Nov 2015 #38

Like it or not the NYTimes gets regurgitated in lots of local media musiclawyer Nov 2015 #57

That was the Editorial Board...Not some whacky blogger or columnist Armstead Nov 2015 #8

A paper that has lost all credibility since they rubber stamped the WMDs from Judy Miller, and had still_one Nov 2015 #26

Remember you said that when they inevitably endorse Clinton Armstead Nov 2015 #29

I don't care who they endorse, they are still a sorry excuse for a Newspaper. Same still_one Nov 2015 #32

It was an answer worthy of the Republican presidential primary debate stage. EEO Nov 2015 #11

Yes, Mayor Rudolph William Louis Giuliani, to be specific. merrily Nov 2015 #33

Haha. Yup. That's who I thought of first. EEO Nov 2015 #39

She even seemed to morph into Giuliani when she said those things. bvar22 Nov 2015 #111

I agree totally. Major Hogwash Nov 2015 #59

Besides using the 9/11 meme at a sensitive time she also jwirr Nov 2015 #13

I love your post. Gmak Nov 2015 #14

Thank you. jwirr Nov 2015 #15

You said it, jwirr. But you left out broadcast network deregulation. Can't forget FOX and Rushhead. hedda_foil Nov 2015 #61

Yes, I made that mistake also. He sounded good but I was jwirr Nov 2015 #84

"At worst it was the type of cynical move that Mrs. Clinton would have *admired* in Republicans." Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2015 #16

The two aren't mutually exclusive nxylas Nov 2015 #71

True dat. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2015 #102

Emotional manipulation using 9/11 15 years later after it was used to the point sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #17

And a crass exploitation of the horrors in Paris the previous day. arcane1 Nov 2015 #30

K&R. This is what Hillary is about -- campaign contributions and then paybacks for campaign JDPriestly Nov 2015 #18

I wish HRC had an awakening - a point where she said "You all are right" erronis Nov 2015 #44

The interesting thing is that she's already moved dramatically from where she was to where Bernie is Bubzer Nov 2015 #91

That's not the headline of the editorial. Why did you change it? George II Nov 2015 #19

Straws. Clutch. merrily Nov 2015 #34

But it's misleading, and he does it all the time. Why not let him speak for himself? George II Nov 2015 #35

What is misleading about it? Again, the poster is entitled to write a subject line for his OP. merrily Nov 2015 #37

Because....9/11!! n/t ejbr Nov 2015 #42

... Bubzer Nov 2015 #92

k & r Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #22

It is not remotely possible floriduck Nov 2015 #43

Well...she doen't have to do it now Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #49

Maybe she'll own up when she loses floriduck Nov 2015 #51

K&R myrna minx Nov 2015 #23

K&R azmom Nov 2015 #24

wall street because you know arikara Nov 2015 #25

That was painful to watch. Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #36

Very. n/t tazkcmo Nov 2015 #81

There are three possible explanations for such a gaffe tularetom Nov 2015 #40

Actually, I'm pretty sure it was #3 only. hedda_foil Nov 2015 #64

+1 n/t Admiral Loinpresser Nov 2015 #65

HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Nov 2015 #41

only 17% of her donors are small donors Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2015 #45

Disgusting billhicks76 Nov 2015 #46

THANK GOD Hillary is here to rescue Wall Street! Super Girl gets her super powers from Goldman! whereisjustice Nov 2015 #47

In her rebuttal zentrum Nov 2015 #48

Hillary Giuliani. Fuddnik Nov 2015 #50

+1 daleanime Nov 2015 #53

It was a pretty major gaffe. PatrickforO Nov 2015 #52

Kick and R BeanMusical Nov 2015 #55

"impugn my integrity" Oh please Hillary, it is what it is, own it. But don't tell us how you rebuilt YOHABLO Nov 2015 #56

" . . . used his answer to impugn my integrity." Major Hogwash Nov 2015 #58

She's taking her cues from Lois Griffin. TwilightGardener Nov 2015 #60

Someone needs to post that video clip.... Lois Griffin 911 peacebird Nov 2015 #86

This will do some harm Oilwellian Nov 2015 #62

Don't worry, I'm sure her surogates will just buy more poll results to smooth it all over... Bubzer Nov 2015 #93

This meme of corruption and untrustworthiness Admiral Loinpresser Nov 2015 #66

it was despicable marym625 Nov 2015 #67

There are reasons the DNC is limiting the debate viewership... raindaddy Nov 2015 #68

Master Of Deception billhicks76 Nov 2015 #70

The Clintons paid a 35.7% tax rate [40 million in total taxes] over the last 7 years JTShroyer Nov 2015 #72

They made $140 million shilling for near ZERO tax rate for corporations who earn billions whereisjustice Nov 2015 #74

Please provide links for where Hillary pushes for a "near ZERO corporate tax rate." SunSeeker Nov 2015 #105

That's my tax rate, too. Trust me, my husband's career total earnings hedgehog Nov 2015 #94

Sorry, you are incorrect angrychair Nov 2015 #110

No wonder she's "dead broke". Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2015 #117

Ouch. Smarmie Doofus Nov 2015 #75

But she's proactive! winter is coming Nov 2015 #82

No one watched it so it didn't happen. Enthusiast Nov 2015 #76

I was a Bernie supporter but rjsquirrel Nov 2015 #77

No great loss. And you are now on Ignore Demeter Nov 2015 #78

Yippee! artislife Nov 2015 #80

You'll be missed... Moostache Nov 2015 #83

I guess there's a certain symmetry to that. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2015 #89

This JackInGreen Nov 2015 #79

Bernie didn't answer "kindly." It was a cowardly lie to say "no." SunSeeker Nov 2015 #96

So next time he gives fuel to the fire and pearls for the crowd to clutch? JackInGreen Nov 2015 #98

Yup. His honesty gives way to fear of pearl clutchers. nt SunSeeker Nov 2015 #99

Just damn JackInGreen Nov 2015 #104

Wrong. That's not the start of what Sanders said. R B Garr Nov 2015 #85

There is no low too low for Hillary. Indepatriot Nov 2015 #87

+1 Yes, it's coming through loud and clear. senz Nov 2015 #106

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. nt raouldukelives Nov 2015 #88

Doesn't the New York Times know that Wall Street was attacked on 911? hedgehog Nov 2015 #95

Doesn't the NYT know it's own Paul Krugman says Hillary has the better plan for Wall Street? SunSeeker Nov 2015 #103

As much as I like and respect Paul Krugman, bvar22 Nov 2015 #108

"... Mrs. Clinton was earning more than $200,000 for a 20-minute ..." pangaia Nov 2015 #107

The NYTimes is in the bag for Hillary. But their readers show a clear Bernie preference. senz Nov 2015 #109

if they're old they're hippies, if they're young they're fratboys MisterP Nov 2015 #112

Kick for deflection fail. nt nc4bo Dec 2015 #113

kick! n/t in_cog_ni_to Dec 2015 #114

kick! n/t in_cog_ni_to Dec 2015 #115

kick! in_cog_ni_to Dec 2015 #116