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2016 Postmortem

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99th_Monkey

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Tue Nov 17, 2015, 12:44 PM Nov 2015

It Will Be Extremely Difficult For Hillary to Say No To Wall Street [View all]

It Will Be Extremely Difficult For Hillary to Say No To Wall Street
Can Clinton simply disregard the industry's favors to her wealth, political campaigns and foundation?
By Zaid Milani * AlterNet * November 16, 2015

The highlight of Saturday night's Democratic debate was when former Secretary Clinton invoked the September 11 attacks to try to defend her courting of Wall Street donors. The awkward defense of her political ties even spawned a rare New York Times editorial criticizing Clinton.

The fact is, there is no way that Hillary Clinton can pretend she doesn't have a cozy relationship with an industry that personally enriched her family, formed the basis of political support for her career and is doing everything it can to make her president.

Dollar Dollar Bill

After leaving the White House, Bill and Hillary Clinton had a steady source of income; pensions from both the federal government and Arkansas. They also both wrote books that generated millions of dollars of income. That's why, over the next 10 years, Bill Clinton raked in over $125 million in speaking fees, almost all of them from for-profit mega-corporations and trade associations. Shortly after presiding over a historic and catastrophic deregulation of Wall Street, Mr. Clinton's first paid arrangement was a $125,000 speech at Morgan Stanley. His next speech was at Credit Suisse First Boston, for the same asking price. The same year Wall Street banks started to pour funds into the the joint Clinton bank account, Hillary went on to vote for a bankruptcy bill that made it much harder for people to qualify for Chapter 7 bankruptcy; the bill was backed primarily by banks and credit card issuers.

An interesting figure during this period was Elizabeth Warren. Before she was Senator Warren, she was a consumer advocate and professor at Harvard University. She personally briefed First Lady Hillary Clinton on the perils of rolling back bankruptcy protections. Despite going on to support the bill, Hillary was sympathetic to Warren's arguments, telling her, “Professor Warren, we've got to stop that awful bill.”

Clinton's vote for the “awful bill" in 2001 ultimately did not give it the support it needed to pass, but it did pass four years later. At that time, Clinton didn't vote at all, an easy way to avoid responsibility as she prepped for a presidential race a few years later. In an interview with Bill Moyers, Warren explained the change in attitude from Senator Clinton: “It's a well-financed industry....She has taken money from the groups, and more to the point, she worries about them as a constituency.”

http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/hillary-clinton-simply-cant-stand-wall-st-it-built-her-political-career-and-brought
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Who is being swayed to vote for Bernie because of these stories? randys1 Nov 2015 #1
She's done a great job of that without anyone else's help ibegurpard Nov 2015 #5
Threat? Do you mean I have been warned Bernie is going to win? Hope so, that is who randys1 Nov 2015 #7
It's not a threat ibegurpard Nov 2015 #10
Oh that, you mean that if Hillary wins (I am voting for Bernie) that she cant win the WH? randys1 Nov 2015 #11
And by "Hillary Pushers" you mean "the 50+% of Democratic voters who support her"? brooklynite Nov 2015 #13
Over 50% of less than 1/3 ibegurpard Nov 2015 #22
Show me the data that those 2/3 are registered to vote and ready for vote for Sanders... brooklynite Nov 2015 #23
as usual you're addressing a completely different point ibegurpard Nov 2015 #24
In other words, no data brooklynite Nov 2015 #25
whoosh! ibegurpard Nov 2015 #28
Well, MY New York enclave includes the Clinton National Campaign HQ... brooklynite Nov 2015 #32
Oh please tell me ALL about the ground game... ibegurpard Nov 2015 #33
Yeah, "results are on you" (us) - she's widening the gap between her and Sanders every day. George II Nov 2015 #55
your myopic focus on the primary ibegurpard Nov 2015 #57
My myopic focus? I'm not focused on the guy who can't even get a third of the Democratic vote.... George II Nov 2015 #58
By your argument Rilgin Nov 2015 #71
Three times you expressed your opinion above and added "you know this". No, I do NOT.... George II Nov 2015 #72
I am not contesting your opinions as your opinion Rilgin Nov 2015 #74
Cool story bro AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #8
Oh I doubt most Bernie supporters here at DU have thought it thru that far, in all randys1 Nov 2015 #18
So Clinton is above scrutiny? That's democracy to you? Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #34
To answer your question ... Martin Eden Nov 2015 #41
Blinders LOL Let me try and explain it to you. randys1 Nov 2015 #52
I agree with everything you said, except ... Martin Eden Nov 2015 #65
But at least she isn't a republican, right? tularetom Nov 2015 #53
I dont think she will do any of that, but I understand why you might worry about it. randys1 Nov 2015 #54
Supposition. I have no problem with her bilking WS for money needed to elect Democrats. Hoyt Nov 2015 #2
agreed. nt BootinUp Nov 2015 #3
She's never done anything for them in the past MaggieD Nov 2015 #4
She said she shielded them during 9/11 AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #14
No she didn't say that MaggieD Nov 2015 #27
Clinton Admin.'s Repeal of Glass-Steagle & Hillary's refusal to support it's reinstatement 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #20
Hillary is not Bill MaggieD Nov 2015 #29
Hillary refuses to repeal GS, Bill signed it -nt- 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #43
Because it is pointless MaggieD Nov 2015 #45
I'm going with Elizabeth Warren and Robert Reich on the G-S issue 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #64
I'm going with Paul Krugman and Hillary MaggieD Nov 2015 #67
BTW - Hillary's biggest Wall St. donor & backer is NOW directly benefiting from no Glass-Steagall 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #66
Try again MaggieD Nov 2015 #68
Do you even know what Glass Steagall does? AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #75
Never? Jarqui Nov 2015 #26
All BS and innuendo MaggieD Nov 2015 #30
Nope. I don't and never did. Jarqui Nov 2015 #44
Reminds me of an old LBJ story. Fuddnik Nov 2015 #49
twitter: #piggate Jarqui Nov 2015 #59
There are numerous example of her giving favors for money. Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #35
Like what? MaggieD Nov 2015 #36
Many. Do your homework. I am tired of doing the work for other people... Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #39
Can't find any - what are they? MaggieD Nov 2015 #46
Then you are being lazy. Google is your friend. Use it. Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #61
She's filthy rich and doesn't need Wall Street money or influence. JaneyVee Nov 2015 #6
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Her own hard work and success. JaneyVee Nov 2015 #12
Making 30 minute speeches to Wall Street investment firms AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #16
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Exactly MaggieD Nov 2015 #31
You do understand she made her money from making speeches for Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #38
Their fear of republicans has made them azmom Nov 2015 #42
So what? MaggieD Nov 2015 #47
making speeches is not earning a living or hard work. Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #60
Well I beg to differ MaggieD Nov 2015 #62
Still not convinced, sorry but it doesn't sound hard to me. Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #69
Oh please - your crowd will say and do anything to smear her MaggieD Nov 2015 #70
Do tell. I won't send an alert. Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #73
Dirt poor and then went on speaking tours Ichingcarpenter Nov 2015 #19
Yes, She's Filthy Rich, THANKS to Wall St. Exactly. Thanks for agreeing. nt 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #21
No, it won't. She'll be president, and they'll be angry that Hortensis Nov 2015 #15
So if a candidate takes huge cash from the NRA they easily just say no to their policies? EndElectoral Nov 2015 #37
I believe the NRA would not give huge cash without promises first BootinUp Nov 2015 #40
Which candidate took huge cash from the NRA? frylock Nov 2015 #48
She has -ZERO- intention of saying no to Wall Street. Which is why she says -YES- to their $$$. nt Romulox Nov 2015 #50
Agreed. SoapBox Nov 2015 #51
Of course. I don't understand why some people don't get this. EndElectoral Nov 2015 #63
True True - She has not convinced me that Wall Street Won't be pulling her strings Ferd Berfel Nov 2015 #56
There is NO corporation, or bank that is giving millions to a candidate without expecting something onecaliberal Nov 2015 #76
Hillary said Wall St. hates her, so it must be true. 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #77
They hate her so much they give her millions. I wish they would hate me like that..... onecaliberal Nov 2015 #78
+10 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #79
k and r nashville_brook Nov 2015 #80
She won't even try. Scuba Nov 2015 #81
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