2016 Postmortem

lovemydog

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57. Most people with any opinion can back them up with facts.

Wed Nov 18, 2015, 09:29 AM

Nov 2015

Or 'facts.' It's still a difference of opinion.

Of course not all criticisms of Clinton are smears. But to claim that your opinion, backed up with facts or 'facts' is somehow the truth (or especially the only truth) - well, that to me just smacks of self-righteousness and failure to understand the other supporters' point of view.

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The truth is not a smear nor an attack. [View all] Unknown Beatle Nov 2015 OP

The truth is the truth and facts are facts, no matter how other people view them. Vincardog Nov 2015 #1

Yea, sort of like saying she has mental health issues leftofcool Nov 2015 #37

Yea, sort of like saying she has mental health issues AlbertCat Nov 2015 #63

And yet it was posted here yesterday as fact. leftofcool Nov 2015 #72

And yet it was posted here yesterday as fact. AlbertCat Nov 2015 #76

Could you please link to where that was posted here yesterday? I saw a post about sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #83

Did you read the posts in the thread? yardwork Nov 2015 #87

Please post a link to that... N_E_1 for Tennis Nov 2015 #91

Here ya go leftofcool Nov 2015 #93

Damn straight. It's the truth. NuclearDem Nov 2015 #2

Yes you are ignoring nuance Armstead Nov 2015 #35

+1 nt Javaman Nov 2015 #77

The "Socialist" moniker is a Designed CUT to DISSUADE Middle America from Supporting Bernie! CorporatistNation Nov 2015 #111

Post removed Post removed Nov 2015 #3

And you know this because? daleanime Nov 2015 #4

Now that is the definition of a smear. Unknown Beatle Nov 2015 #5

that post Mnpaul Nov 2015 #8

Nailed it. merrily Nov 2015 #21

Don't alert on me but, it is hard to tell when the memes are identical. Darb Nov 2015 #45

parroting long used Republican bullshit, AlbertCat Nov 2015 #64

I have never alerted on anyone. Unknown Beatle Nov 2015 #97

In my opnion, you don't have to defend anything that is not a violation of TOS, unless an admin merrily Nov 2015 #6

I absolutely agree... brooklynite Nov 2015 #7

Not if it's supported by any kind of facts or links or something. 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #12

And mark my words SwampG8r Nov 2015 #19

A fine example of a good Democrat right here. Darb Nov 2015 #46

Doubtful SwampG8r Nov 2015 #60

And if the GE were held only in Vermont, you would have a point. Thor_MN Nov 2015 #32

Whereas its terribly important quakerboy Nov 2015 #36

Since the GE is a national event, citing national polls would be prudent. Thor_MN Nov 2015 #39

No, it wouldn't. Because we don't have a national popular vote. jeff47 Nov 2015 #94

State polls are far more important quakerboy Nov 2015 #95

Actually, we're learning none of the polls are credible. lexington filly Nov 2015 #103

interesting more interest in getting those votes treestar Nov 2015 #58

more interest in getting those votes AlbertCat Nov 2015 #66

Not 'more interest'.. just that the ONLY Bernie support that shows in polls are "likely D voters" 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #71

Now we're getting somewhere ejbr Nov 2015 #33

has significant weakness as a General Election candidate AlbertCat Nov 2015 #65

k/r The truth is information and I welcome it. 840high Nov 2015 #9

Granted, it does seem that way here sometimes. 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #10

they can't acknowledge that it's a real primary campaign: her support relies MisterP Nov 2015 #22

Not accurate. Darb Nov 2015 #47

Everybody knows about Bernie. AlbertCat Nov 2015 #67

kick, I should be recommend number 30, but the rec button is not working. n/t slipslidingaway Nov 2015 #11

K/R for the Truth Jack Rabbit Nov 2015 #13

But she would never SAY anything like that!!! Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2015 #14

Ridiculous interpretations of what she says (91/11-Wall Street) Darb Nov 2015 #48

NO. bvar22 Nov 2015 #84

agree. nt restorefreedom Nov 2015 #99

because i believe in transparency restorefreedom Nov 2015 #100

People fear and attack the unfamiliar. n/t winter is coming Nov 2015 #15

Some "truths" do not need to be repeated hourly for 12 freaking years. nt ucrdem Nov 2015 #16

+1 lovemydog Nov 2015 #17

... sheshe2 Nov 2015 #23

I am glad you brought that up. rhett o rick Nov 2015 #27

Fair enough. Those are some of the same criticisms I have of her. lovemydog Nov 2015 #29

Over-flowing crock of shit. Darb Nov 2015 #49

Putin is thinking about bombing Syria. Kalidurga Nov 2015 #61

I judge her by her actions and what she says. I would hope you agree that money is rhett o rick Nov 2015 #85

... sheshe2 Nov 2015 #24

If these truths are not sinking in, ejbr Nov 2015 #34

Holding an action by Hillary pre version 6.0 against Hillary 7.x is an attack. MannyGoldstein Nov 2015 #18

Forever edition: ucrdem Nov 2015 #20

Like your seven years of 'constructive criticism' lovemydog Nov 2015 #25

We should just trust our President.. frylock Nov 2015 #75

LOL. Yes, that's one silly extreme. lovemydog Nov 2015 #101

Bernie is behind solidly, sorry, no amount of ridiculous VRWC Darb Nov 2015 #53

Obama, New Democrat, was Right of Left, January 2009-December 2010, after being behind. DhhD Nov 2015 #74

Damn straight Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #26

It's not a mistaken impression. Fuddnik Nov 2015 #28

If I said that I would of been alerted and hidden BlueStateLib Nov 2015 #30

The pot and the kettle are humping again. Darb Nov 2015 #54

Amen! Punkingal Nov 2015 #31

Suggestion: freedom fighter jh Nov 2015 #38

Pretty much anything Old Codger Nov 2015 #79

Kick and R BeanMusical Nov 2015 #40

K and R bigwillq Nov 2015 #41

What a Hillary smear looks like stupidicus Nov 2015 #42

yeah the person who called her fat and mentally challenged wasn't smearing her at all dsc Nov 2015 #43

That's a smear. Discussing who is financing and supporting a candidate is not. Armstead Nov 2015 #69

Does your theory apply to Bernie as well? leftofcool Nov 2015 #73

Sure...Unless something is really old and stupid Armstead Nov 2015 #98

Don't alert on me Bro*, but that's a bunch of bullshit. Darb Nov 2015 #44

Are you talking about the political sense in America, after the take down of Hillarycare by DhhD Nov 2015 #78

Sorry to have to ask this, and no offense meant, Darb Nov 2015 #90

I just agree with Bernie on more issues - TBF Nov 2015 #50

Neither is posting a poll showing Bernie losing by 30 points...nt SidDithers Nov 2015 #51

You are right, rather it is boston bean Nov 2015 #55

Truth, and facts, are the very best attack against unscrupulous politicians. Sunshine disinfects. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2015 #52

Oh come on treestar Nov 2015 #56

Most people with any opinion can back them up with facts. lovemydog Nov 2015 #57

You have what you CALL the truth. But calling it truth doesn't make it so. upaloopa Nov 2015 #59

B-b-but Bernie's in the pocket of Big Beet Sugar! AlbertCat Nov 2015 #62

Kicked and recommended for the non-smear truth campaign! Enthusiast Nov 2015 #68

K&R for truth! Zorra Nov 2015 #70

Thanks! Unknown Beatle Nov 2015 #112

If Bernie wasn't such a serious threat, you wouldn't see them come here every day. Major Hogwash Nov 2015 #80

I'm sorry. You're of the opinion that Hillary supporters come to DU... Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #81

Truth? MaggieD Nov 2015 #82

K & R !!! WillyT Nov 2015 #86

Truth is Truth monicaangela Nov 2015 #88

Read this. Eko Nov 2015 #89

Wow....all the way from August 28th! bvar22 Nov 2015 #102

But guns are OK. Eko Nov 2015 #104

36 people a day are killed by guns, Eko Nov 2015 #105

That's OK, Hillary supporters... Maedhros Nov 2015 #92

Yes, they would prefer facts weren't facts. marym625 Nov 2015 #96

Very disappointed in so-called Sanders supporters santafe52 Nov 2015 #106

At 5 posts per year, I'm surprised this is bothering you. But to each their own. DisgustipatedinCA Nov 2015 #107

Thank you, Hillary supporters, for staying above the fray. frylock Nov 2015 #109

Interesting read Fed up in NJ Nov 2015 #108

If Sanders supporters really believed what's written in this OP, they would not have stevenleser Nov 2015 #110