2016 Postmortem

Armstead

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120. 9-11 was a bad event. Of course it was. But that is not the subject.

Wed Nov 18, 2015, 09:57 AM

Nov 2015

The behavior of big investment houses and banks have been destructive to the overall health of the economy, the financial position of most Americans, and has undermined the morasl and ethical values of our nation.

I haven't the time to explain why. there is plenty of evidence readuily available (real news not just tin hat conspiracy theories).

Let's just say that in addition to the house of cards that collapsed in 2008, they have made companies into poker chips that are forced to behave in ways that undermine working people, consumers and steal money from the public sector.

People like Sanders warned of the consequences in the 90's, when those conditions were being put into place deliberately.

If you don't think that's a problem....well, okay. Ignore it. But don't complain ten or twenty years from now when the logical effects have become even more pronounced in a dystopian way.

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Every time I try to be receptive to Clinton -- She does something awful like the 9-11 thing [View all] Armstead Nov 2015 OP

noun verb, 911 woman merrily Nov 2015 #1

And they say she's not Repub-lite. Jester Messiah Nov 2015 #9

check out the video in reply 99 marym625 Nov 2015 #100

Or as I like to say... War, gender and 9/11 cui bono Nov 2015 #106

And then going after the Twitter guy ibegurpard Nov 2015 #2

The Twitter guy offered to "take it back" 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #5

The Twitter guy spoke for many Armstead Nov 2015 #6

And it's all the fault of the person on twitter. jeff47 Nov 2015 #3

Fun link for additional perspective on that Jarqui Nov 2015 #4

WOW grasswire Nov 2015 #101

Law professor! cui bono Nov 2015 #107

Did they say that? 72DejaVu Nov 2015 #16

Yes, they did say that. jeff47 Nov 2015 #18

They said "Hilary can't handle one tweet"? 72DejaVu Nov 2015 #19

Guess I'll just cut-and-paste my last reply, since you didn't read it the first time. jeff47 Nov 2015 #20

So we can argue all afternoon about why your mischaracterization isn't a mischaracterization? 72DejaVu Nov 2015 #23

Well, if quotes are so important, one would think you could find one that shows jeff47 Nov 2015 #24

I admire your persistence 72DejaVu Nov 2015 #25

My dad is bigger than your dad. What a horseshit answer. Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 #33

She responded to that tweet d_legendary1 Nov 2015 #56

So she did "handle" the tweet 72DejaVu Nov 2015 #60

If by "handle" you mean give another 9/11 answer d_legendary1 Nov 2015 #64

Yes. She could have argued in good faith. DirkGently Nov 2015 #7

The more I see of her... Hepburn Nov 2015 #8

I try not to see her or listen to her. I don't trust her to SammyWinstonJack Nov 2015 #36

This ^ AlbertCat Nov 2015 #39

From the beginning of the primaries I've said I would vote for Hillary if she's the nominee deutsey Nov 2015 #10

Ditto. n/t Hepburn Nov 2015 #11

Well she's still better than a Republican.....I guess. Armstead Nov 2015 #17

it doesn't matter if every DUer brings 5 people to the polls for her, she'd still lose MisterP Nov 2015 #43

You're free to do as you are told! Yurovsky Nov 2015 #63

that's why the DLCers can't win with a real Dem around: they've run the party with Ratched-like MisterP Nov 2015 #76

I know what you mean. zentrum Nov 2015 #30

Don't alert on me Bro*, but right back at ya! Darb Nov 2015 #65

Couldn't care any less than I do deutsey Nov 2015 #67

Don't alert on me Bro*, but you don't really act like Darb Nov 2015 #69

I was number seven: guillaumeb Nov 2015 #75

Notice that I didn't alert one their having Darb Nov 2015 #79

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #110

She happened to be a Senator in New York State when 9-11 happened. Her duty was to work /w Sunlei Nov 2015 #12

So this explains all of the donations from Wall Street to Hepburn Nov 2015 #13

Bush knew, but I do not think Mrs. Clinton was in Bushes circle,do U?Mrs. Clinton in 2002, to media. Sunlei Nov 2015 #15

Try again... Hepburn Nov 2015 #21

I might just stop trying to be receptive to Clinton. Betty Karlson Nov 2015 #14

It creeps me out... Ino Nov 2015 #22

I hope that is not the only reason she concerns you ejbr Nov 2015 #28

Yeah, that's pretty close to Mike__M Nov 2015 #58

Oh no, LOL Ino Nov 2015 #61

Ha! ejbr Nov 2015 #83

LOL grasswire Nov 2015 #105

And then there's that awful moment... 99Forever Nov 2015 #26

I'm trying to avoid that moment Armstead Nov 2015 #32

Bargaining down to $12/hour is another clanger Demeter Nov 2015 #27

I love the message but hate the picture. Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 #34

Starting at $12 means bargaining down to a lower figure. Probably $7.25; maybe less. Scuba Nov 2015 #108

It's currently $7.25, and has been for 45 years Demeter Nov 2015 #109

Maybe that's why Hillary is thought of as the "status quo" candidate. Scuba Nov 2015 #116

"She insulted people's intelligence with a dishonest deflection from the issue." Martin Eden Nov 2015 #29

Totally agree Android3.14 Nov 2015 #31

What Republicans Said in Private About Hillary�s Post-9/11 Recovery Work riversedge Nov 2015 #35

Not denying she did well in handling 9-11....That's not the point Armstead Nov 2015 #37

And you just involked the horrible incident in Paris to make YOUR point... riversedge Nov 2015 #44

I "invoked" it because I found the timing offensive Armstead Nov 2015 #48

No excuses--You invoked it to make a point. Period. riversedge Nov 2015 #51

Don't then. If you can't figure out the difference..... Armstead Nov 2015 #53

Make that two unknown schmucks! n/t Admiral Loinpresser Nov 2015 #98

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #112

Woob, woob, woob! n/t Admiral Loinpresser Nov 2015 #114

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #111

We know she's competent. AlbertCat Nov 2015 #41

Your vile talking points have gone stale riversedge Nov 2015 #46

Riversedge, love your post above. Nitram Nov 2015 #57

I am not certain that Darb Nov 2015 #68

I can't quite tell whether you post is sarcastic or not, Darb. Nitram Nov 2015 #71

Not sarcasm. Darb Nov 2015 #74

Thank you for your kind words. I do hope all read it. riversedge Nov 2015 #72

I do hope all read it. AlbertCat Nov 2015 #78

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #113

Makes me think of this gem from The Onion Goblinmonger Nov 2015 #80

Hillary is a great person. Beacool Nov 2015 #47

No, as I said in the OP....I've been hoping to not hear any "gotcha moments" Armstead Nov 2015 #50

So in other words Rilgin Nov 2015 #89

Recently, someone told me he didn't like Hillary because after the Monica bullshit, valerief Nov 2015 #38

I long ago figured that out...Not looking for a drinking buddy Armstead Nov 2015 #42

Same here. But Hillary pulling the terror card is all part of the bullshit valerief Nov 2015 #45

I agree about the Republicans Armstead Nov 2015 #49

One of the reasons she has difficultly with questions like this, IMO... Punkingal Nov 2015 #40

Every time I try to be receptive to Sanders, Nitram Nov 2015 #52

Fine. We're all entitled to our opinions Armstead Nov 2015 #54

Gee, thanks! Nitram Nov 2015 #59

You're welcome. Armstead Nov 2015 #62

Throwing in the gender card made her sound even phonier to me. CharlotteVale Nov 2015 #55

Hillary is proud of the fact that she has that many women donors. Why demean riversedge Nov 2015 #73

Because it had nothing to do with the subject at hand Armstead Nov 2015 #86

The subject about her donors was brought up Sanders. Who her donors ARE IS important and riversedge Nov 2015 #87

We're splitting hairs here Armstead Nov 2015 #90

And you are the one who invoked the Paris terror attack to make YOUR point!! Madam President riversedge Nov 2015 #92

And I will invoke it again, just to piss you off, if you'd like Armstead Nov 2015 #93

Do what you will--Iowa Dems don't care... �My God,� he added, �what�s the big deal?� riversedge Nov 2015 #95

Don't alert on me Bro*, but what the fuck are you talking about? Darb Nov 2015 #66

Did you watch the debate? Armstead Nov 2015 #70

Don't alert on me Bro*, but all I've heard is ridiculous claims Darb Nov 2015 #77

I have no intention of alerting on you Armstead Nov 2015 #84

It was vomit inducing. Schema Thing Nov 2015 #81

The only thing that is vile is the OP making up something out of nothing. riversedge Nov 2015 #88

The New York Times and many other mainstream observers agree with the point of the OP Armstead Nov 2015 #91

No, exploiting 2,996 deaths to smokescreen for one's bank ties is vile. Scootaloo Nov 2015 #104

Don't alert on me Bro*, but this is a shark jumping exercise, Darb Nov 2015 #82

Okay, just us conspiracty theorists and the Editorial Board of the NY Times thought it inappropriate Armstead Nov 2015 #85

I watched it and I'm not a Hillary supporter lovemydog Nov 2015 #94

Before worrying about being receptive to Clinton why don't you wait until the voters actually vote Bernblu Nov 2015 #96

I know that, but based on present evidence... Armstead Nov 2015 #97

K&R! marym625 Nov 2015 #99

You're not the only one, unfortunately. sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #102

Yeah Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #103

She's awful. Period. (Nt) bigwillq Nov 2015 #115

What's so awful about it? treestar Nov 2015 #117

Her handling of 9-11 was fine. She did what she should have. Armstead Nov 2015 #118

What is so awful about he Big Banks and Wall Street and Big Corporations? treestar Nov 2015 #119

9-11 was a bad event. Of course it was. But that is not the subject. Armstead Nov 2015 #120

Apparently, Hillary is not the only one... ljm2002 Nov 2015 #121

Why would you be receptive to her? PowerToThePeople Nov 2015 #122