2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Hillary Clinton Goes Bush League [View all]MuseRider
(35,085 posts)to those who perpetrated this was that they could use them later for emotional political support. Most of us know how vile that is. If you supported it then you have to deal with that, you do NOT get to use your victims later instead you should be apologizing seriously and not making excuses. A well thought out, poll tested, unemotional comment about a bad choice is not going to cut it especially when half the world and other of your colleagues knew it was the wrong choice.
As for the label, that is very insightful the way you said this. I had never thought of it quite that way. People change and their votes should change accordingly. I grow tired of watching what I always thought the good thing (actual liberals) in this country go away because of people who lack historical knowledge or care for others when the going gets tough.
It is a game and one they intend to win no matter what it takes or who they have to roll over to get there. Enough so that our last president and his people used trading cards for the lives of their enemies. The analogy to a game is apt I believe on both sides and in part understandable. I think it was during the Reagan administration that Malcolm Forbes said "He who dies with the most toys wins." anyway that is when I remember seeing it on bumper stickers etc. and it fit the time. We HAVE to win whatever it takes, we are willing to settle. We know that each person will have to compromise, that is just how it is, but when we know someone is saying things they have never believed or will never intend to do and we willingly vote for that person without knowing what they really will do baffles me.
I believe that everyone has the right to vote how they see fit for themselves or for what they think is best for the country. They have the right to express their beliefs. They also must be ready for push back if they express them. We should all be grownup enough for that. I was until all discussion ceased with silly little thread jacks just to side track the threads. Now I have ignore. Those who actually discuss issues are still here but the rest are gone for me.
I do hope you will make an OP out of this. It seems many of us did not know about this. I have to go do doctor stuff today and will check in while waiting my turn but will not be back to do much supporting of it until later this afternoon.