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2016 Postmortem
Showing Original Post only (View all)The Deep State, Hillary Clinton and fake democracy - NYTimes [View all]
Examining Who Runs the United StatesA former C.I.A. officer with experience in Turkey wrote a provocative essay this summer about the deep state. The phrase refers to a parallel secret government embedded in the military and intelligence services, whose purpose is to provide a check on electoral democracy.
But Turkey wasnt the target of the essay, written by Philip Giraldi. He was aiming, as his headline declared, at Deep State America.
Mr. Giraldi, executive director of the Council for the National Interest, a foreign-policy advocacy group in Washington, called the American deep state of today an unelected, unappointed, and unaccountable presence within the system that actually manages what is taking place behind the scenes.
In contrast to Turkey, where Mr. Giraldi said a covert deep state had taken root in the security realm, the American deep state of his description consists of visible people like the Clintons and the former C.I.A. director David H. Petraeus, concentrated around New York and Washington, who live at the fertile nexus of government and corporate power: Capitol Hill aides and legislators who cash in as lobbyists; former politicians who earn millions speaking to banks, or landing sinecures with them; technocrats who ricochet between Goldman Sachs and the Treasury Department; billionaire kingmakers dangling political donations; thinkers whose tanks are financed by corporations with a financial stake in their research.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/09/15/us/examining-who-runs-the-united-states.html?_r=3&referer=http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2962478/pg1
Deep State America
Democracy is often subverted by special interests operating behind the scenes.
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/deep-state-america/
Essay: Anatomy of the Deep State
Yes, there is another government concealed behind the one that is visible at either end of Pennsylvania Avenue, a hybrid entity of public and private institutions ruling the country according to consistent patterns in season and out, connected to, but only intermittently controlled by, the visible state whose leaders we choose. My analysis of this phenomenon is not an exposé of a secret, conspiratorial cabal; the state within a state is hiding mostly in plain sight, and its operators mainly act in the light of day. Nor can this other government be accurately termed an establishment. All complex societies have an establishment, a social network committed to its own enrichment and perpetuation. In terms of its scope, financial resources and sheer global reach, the American hybrid state, the Deep State, is in a class by itself. That said, it is neither omniscient nor invincible. The institution is not so much sinister (although it has highly sinister aspects) as it is relentlessly well entrenched. Far from being invincible, its failures, such as those in Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya, are routine enough that it is only the Deep States protectiveness towards its higher-ranking personnel that allows them to escape the consequences of their frequent ineptitude.
http://billmoyers.com/2014/02/21/anatomy-of-the-deep-state/
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Well, Donald Trump has stated that he wants Hillary because 'she will be easier to beat'!
sabrina 1
Nov 2015
#6
Are there people here who don't believe in the existence of the deep state?
TwilightGardener
Nov 2015
#4
Well, good for you. I know this: nothing ever seriously threatens the status quo.
TwilightGardener
Nov 2015
#13
Really? Ask an LGBT person whether their status quo has changed in the last eight years.
stevenleser
Nov 2015
#14
Code Pink is a group that puts pressure on the government regarding national security issues.
stevenleser
Nov 2015
#16
Code Pink has about as much impact on the deep state and national security
TwilightGardener
Nov 2015
#17
Well, there is no deep state. But in terms of their impact on the government, I am sure they make
stevenleser
Nov 2015
#18
I'm certain there is. It's Booz Allen, it's KBR and Halliburton, it's Lockheed Martin,
TwilightGardener
Nov 2015
#19