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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Hillary Is Already TRIANGULATING Against Liberals [View all]Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts)160. I spent the day gathering a few more in that vein in addition to the one RickV posted
Why DOES Wall Street 'love' Hillary Clinton? (CNN)
As a debate maneuver, {invoking 9/11 in awswer to Senator Sanders' questions about Mrs. Clinton's political and financial ties to Wall Street} proved to be an effective answer that drew audience applause and changed the subject for the moment. But it doesn't answer the question of who's giving money to Clinton, and what they expect in return.
One clue comes from the Open Secrets database of the Center for Responsive Politics watchdog group, which analyzed $37 million of the donations to Clinton's campaign committee about 62% of the total and found $3.2 million of that came from commercial banks and from securities, investment and financial firms, more than any other sector except lawyers and "retired" people who are sufficiently well-off to donate money, although they don't work.
Another index of the candidate's closeness to Wall Street comes from the website of the Clinton Foundation, which lists the places where Bill, Hillary and Chelsea Clinton give speeches and how much they get paid for them. It turns out Hillary Clinton has spoken to Citibank, Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan Chase and Carlyle Investment Management and earned between $250,000 and $500,000 for each talk. That translates into a minimum of $1 million and as much as $2 million for giving four speeches
One wonders what pearls of wisdom could be worth such enormous sums. The answer, according to William Cohan, the author of "Money and Power: How Goldman Sachs Came to Rule the World," is that the big banks see Clinton as one of their own.
Hillary Clintons Fake Tough Talk on Wall Street (Daily Beast)
The true love story of Hillary and Wall Street (Washington Examiner)
Hillary Can't Explain Wall Street Ties For A Reason (Daily Kos)
Don't Expect Hillary Clinton to Stand Up to Wall Street (New Republic)
Hillary Clinton Unveils Economic Agenda, but Cant Shake Wall Street Questions (National Journal)
{F}or skeptics, especially on the Left, Clinton's own history as a senator from New York may give them some pause. At one point in the speech, Clinton derided the bank HSBC for enabling Latin American drug cartels to launder billions of dollars without proper oversight.
"There can be no justification or tolerance for this kind of criminal behavior," she said.
After the speech, the anti-Clinton super PAC America Rising quickly pointed out that in 2011. HSBC Securities Inc. paid Bil Clinton a $200,000 honorarium for a speech he gave in Key Largo, Florida. The bank has also donated between #500,000 and $1 million to the Clinton Foundation.
While HSBC's lack of oversight did not come to light until 2013, its whiff of impropriety shows just how hard it continues to be for Clinton to disentangle her time as a New York politician with the tough-on-Wall-Street image she's trying to craft. At one point in the speech, a man in the audience shouted, "Senator Clinton, will you restore Glass-Steagall?" Security escorted him out, and the rest of the audience drowned out his shouts with applause for Clinton. Economist Alan Blinder, whom Clinton's campaign has hired as a policy adviser, told Reuters on Monday that Clinton will not try to reinstate the bank-break-up law.
As the primary campaign wears on, it will be harder for Clinton to avoid Democrats' lingering questions; eventually, she'll have to address her history, and even her regrets, from her time as a senator. There's still time for evolution.
I doubt that will satisfy you, ma'am, but I doubt you would be satisfied with anything that would further impugn Mrs. Clinton's alleged integrity. In any event, there is ample reason to suppose that Mrs. Clinton is ethically compromised in her dealings with Wall Street. These seems to be at least a substantial evidence to call her integrity into question.
I add one more link just for you, ma'am, for your consideration next time you use this word.
As a debate maneuver, {invoking 9/11 in awswer to Senator Sanders' questions about Mrs. Clinton's political and financial ties to Wall Street} proved to be an effective answer that drew audience applause and changed the subject for the moment. But it doesn't answer the question of who's giving money to Clinton, and what they expect in return.
One clue comes from the Open Secrets database of the Center for Responsive Politics watchdog group, which analyzed $37 million of the donations to Clinton's campaign committee about 62% of the total and found $3.2 million of that came from commercial banks and from securities, investment and financial firms, more than any other sector except lawyers and "retired" people who are sufficiently well-off to donate money, although they don't work.
Another index of the candidate's closeness to Wall Street comes from the website of the Clinton Foundation, which lists the places where Bill, Hillary and Chelsea Clinton give speeches and how much they get paid for them. It turns out Hillary Clinton has spoken to Citibank, Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan Chase and Carlyle Investment Management and earned between $250,000 and $500,000 for each talk. That translates into a minimum of $1 million and as much as $2 million for giving four speeches
One wonders what pearls of wisdom could be worth such enormous sums. The answer, according to William Cohan, the author of "Money and Power: How Goldman Sachs Came to Rule the World," is that the big banks see Clinton as one of their own.
Hillary Clintons Fake Tough Talk on Wall Street (Daily Beast)
The true love story of Hillary and Wall Street (Washington Examiner)
Hillary Can't Explain Wall Street Ties For A Reason (Daily Kos)
Don't Expect Hillary Clinton to Stand Up to Wall Street (New Republic)
Hillary Clinton Unveils Economic Agenda, but Cant Shake Wall Street Questions (National Journal)
{F}or skeptics, especially on the Left, Clinton's own history as a senator from New York may give them some pause. At one point in the speech, Clinton derided the bank HSBC for enabling Latin American drug cartels to launder billions of dollars without proper oversight.
"There can be no justification or tolerance for this kind of criminal behavior," she said.
After the speech, the anti-Clinton super PAC America Rising quickly pointed out that in 2011. HSBC Securities Inc. paid Bil Clinton a $200,000 honorarium for a speech he gave in Key Largo, Florida. The bank has also donated between #500,000 and $1 million to the Clinton Foundation.
While HSBC's lack of oversight did not come to light until 2013, its whiff of impropriety shows just how hard it continues to be for Clinton to disentangle her time as a New York politician with the tough-on-Wall-Street image she's trying to craft. At one point in the speech, a man in the audience shouted, "Senator Clinton, will you restore Glass-Steagall?" Security escorted him out, and the rest of the audience drowned out his shouts with applause for Clinton. Economist Alan Blinder, whom Clinton's campaign has hired as a policy adviser, told Reuters on Monday that Clinton will not try to reinstate the bank-break-up law.
As the primary campaign wears on, it will be harder for Clinton to avoid Democrats' lingering questions; eventually, she'll have to address her history, and even her regrets, from her time as a senator. There's still time for evolution.
I doubt that will satisfy you, ma'am, but I doubt you would be satisfied with anything that would further impugn Mrs. Clinton's alleged integrity. In any event, there is ample reason to suppose that Mrs. Clinton is ethically compromised in her dealings with Wall Street. These seems to be at least a substantial evidence to call her integrity into question.
I add one more link just for you, ma'am, for your consideration next time you use this word.
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Indeed, I'd rather pay a little more in taxes and do away with monthly premiums and copays!
arcane1
Nov 2015
#66
Oh goodie! We might get to see how well "Who else you gonna vote for?" works in a presidential year
jeff47
Nov 2015
#8
The enthusiasiam for Sanders is because people see an oppurtunity to break free of
rhett o rick
Nov 2015
#10
I think what we really need is a huge "revolution" at the state and local levels.
arcane1
Nov 2015
#73
I agree. But we also need to figure out how to get control of the national Democratic
rhett o rick
Nov 2015
#94
It will not work for me. Not at all. I will vote for every other Democratic candidate, but not for
JDPriestly
Nov 2015
#63
She is progessive like Flo in the commercials - i.e. selling insurance. nt.
Juicy_Bellows
Nov 2015
#12
Initially I believe she simply did not understand other people's life situations
truedelphi
Nov 2015
#14
It was Wellesley, then Yale Law, where she met Bill. "Living on $24K a year implies a higher gross
merrily
Nov 2015
#21
It's well known that liberals have much better senses of humor than conservatives.
Scuba
Nov 2015
#175
All those stories about the Third Wayers "warning" her not to go too far left. LOL!
merrily
Nov 2015
#24
It IS a truly messed-up thing! And its a truly messed-up time in American politics
RiverLover
Nov 2015
#29
Nice nothing, get a clue. quotation marks just might have meant something ....
Persondem
Nov 2015
#80
Every GOP mouth piece for the last 35 years. Sanders wears a nice target on his back vis a vis taxes
Persondem
Nov 2015
#84
No they won't. They came out of the woodwork to vote against Obama twice. for that decade
Persondem
Nov 2015
#141
Conservatives had not been harboring a white-hot hatred of Obama for almost 25 years.
frylock
Nov 2015
#143
Conservatives had been harboring a white hot hatred of people like Obama for nearly 400 years.
Persondem
Nov 2015
#146
None of my points were addressed!! One person sort of tried but had zero details & no numbers
Persondem
Nov 2015
#155
What percentage of their income are these people currently paying for mandated health insurance?
frylock
Nov 2015
#157
Guess you conveniently overlooked the quotation marks. Work your brain a while ....
Persondem
Nov 2015
#79
How about replying to the substance of my post instead of trying to deflect?
Persondem
Nov 2015
#100
Never. But the "substance" in the post I replied to forgot to include that detail. (nt)
jeff47
Nov 2015
#184
No one has been able to point me to a pace where the details of this wonderful plan exist
Persondem
Nov 2015
#158
So freaking what!?? You want to push an ill thought out idea you better be ready
Persondem
Nov 2015
#180
And the trillions we are wasting on Iraq? Why is that a given that that $ is there
Arugula Latte
Nov 2015
#109
Please provide some documentation for the trillions we ARE spending on Iraq.
Persondem
Nov 2015
#115
Makes me cognizant of the fact that a high priced (i.e. hightax) SP system isn't going to fly
Persondem
Nov 2015
#140
You might as well say pixie dust then. I'd like to see SP in the US, but without the details
Persondem
Nov 2015
#150
Nonsense. You are just waving your hands around in an effort to hide the facts.
Enthusiast
Nov 2015
#161
Once upon a time she actually attempted to find a way to provide health care access
tblue37
Nov 2015
#36
Yeah, we're the personality cult droning on about poise and looking presidential.
frylock
Nov 2015
#113
Frylock, you were supposed to come up with a funnier and more incisive Utra-something-or-other.
Nitram
Nov 2015
#162
I spent the day gathering a few more in that vein in addition to the one RickV posted
Jack Rabbit
Nov 2015
#160
It is a smear unless you clarify in the statement that it is based on your gut level feeling...
Nitram
Nov 2015
#191
Social Security is the single most popular program in America ever—pure socialism.
Enthusiast
Nov 2015
#128
We live in a greedy superficial and selfish country. Is tiered for profi healthcare ethical? NO
YOHABLO
Nov 2015
#64
Her answer re Wall Street, "I was a senator from NY" means she can't stand up to Wall Street
ViseGrip
Nov 2015
#65
In running for president, first doing a term as the "Democratic Senator from NY"
closeupready
Nov 2015
#135
That is why I am a Bernie Sanders Supporter. It is becoming very difficult to be a liberal in
Todays_Illusion
Nov 2015
#78
K&R! Single payer is my litmus test. I'm not in favor of free money for insurance companies.
Enthusiast
Nov 2015
#122
I'm really, really, REALLY tired of, when I want to use my tax dollars for
PatrickforO
Nov 2015
#152
At least she's not one of them Tax and Spend, bleedin' heart, libruls! K&R
Tierra_y_Libertad
Nov 2015
#179