2016 Postmortem

djean111

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90. At my age (69), I doubt if I have any real acquaintances who would vote for Hillary merely because

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 06:03 PM

Nov 2015

she is a woman. That, to me, is not what feminism is about.

Hillary hate - pretty much everyone I ask says they do not like Hillary. They may not know much about Bernie, but they do know that they do not like Hillary.

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The female vote is going overwhelmingly to Hillary Clinton --- Hillary 69% Bernie 22% [View all] Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 OP

Women know who can get the job done. nt SunSeeker Nov 2015 #1

Clinton probably very well GET the job done. pangaia Nov 2015 #7

What job? Baitball Blogger Nov 2015 #17

Grand bargains with the GOP AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #22

And by temporary nothingness, it means that minority issues will sit on the Baitball Blogger Nov 2015 #68

What has Hillary "gotten done" for women thus far? JDPriestly Nov 2015 #33

She was one of the most progressive Senators in Congress, so she has pnwmom Nov 2015 #79

She has no "the buck stops here" executive experience and spent relatively few years in Congress. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #174

Neither did President Obama. I'll take Secretary of State over Mayor of Burlington, VT pnwmom Nov 2015 #183

No. President did not have that kind of experience. He never ran a business or much of anything. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #184

I think President Obama has done an excellent job in the Presidency, pnwmom Nov 2015 #185

President Obama has done an excellent job in many respects, but he would have done a lot JDPriestly Nov 2015 #186

Hillary has had plenty of the experience dealing with Republicans that you say pnwmom Nov 2015 #191

Americans are not very interested in foreign policy right now. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #192

Foreign policy is a critical part of maintaining peace. pnwmom Nov 2015 #198

You should check out his socialism speech at Georgetown Kentonio Nov 2015 #201

+1000 Karma13612 Nov 2015 #219

She got CHIP through, which covered over 8 million children. SunSeeker Nov 2015 #102

Actually, while she did policy work and networked on SCHIP, Ted Kennedy got it through Congress. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #176

Actually, Ted Kennedy said CHIP would not be in existence without Hillary pushing for it. SunSeeker Nov 2015 #180

I'd hope it would be the one that actually has a history of accomplishments, Amimnoch Nov 2015 #34

Of course! SunSeeker Nov 2015 #97

Exactly, Amimnoch. Some would rather have promises promises than an actual histiory of Cha Nov 2015 #156

OMG her numbers with hispanics are AMAZING!! bravenak Nov 2015 #2

Which is ironic AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #24

Maybe they are not fooled by the propaganda of free everything bravenak Nov 2015 #25

Nothing is free AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #111

Who pays that percentage? Everybody? Won't happen. Have you looked at the House and Senate? bravenak Nov 2015 #115

Everyone up to $200k AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #119

Lol. Even low income have to pay that? No. I will fight against that plan. bravenak Nov 2015 #122

No Kentonio Nov 2015 #202

The wealthy with no jobs will not pay but will get benefits? bravenak Nov 2015 #203

If they are wealthy but just sitting on the money Kentonio Nov 2015 #204

That happens more often than you know. bravenak Nov 2015 #205

No, it really doesn't. Kentonio Nov 2015 #206

There are too many caveats in his plan. bravenak Nov 2015 #207

Omg "honest discussion"? SwampG8r Nov 2015 #232

Single payer is cheaper than the system we have now. Has been in every country that has JDPriestly Nov 2015 #171

Low income are on medicaid. They need no tax hike. bravenak Nov 2015 #173

Not all who cannot afford health insurance are on Medicaid. If they are low income, low enough JDPriestly Nov 2015 #177

We will not implement it. We are not europe. bravenak Nov 2015 #178

Not ironic at all. They expect that with HRC as the nominee pnwmom Nov 2015 #82

Polling shows her losing to every GOP candidate AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #87

No, it doesn't. Among a few candidates it shows the same typical close race pnwmom Nov 2015 #93

Read, weep AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #99

Why? I see lots of polls at your link where she is either ahead or they're tied -- within the MoE. pnwmom Nov 2015 #112

Which is sad and shows the ignorance and lack of understanding or the issues of many voters. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #36

Are you calling blacks, women, hispanics, ignorant for choosing a candidate that you do not like? bravenak Nov 2015 #38

doubtful. I'd say that they hate single-payer, love warmongering and the TPP, stupidicus Nov 2015 #41

Maybe they do not like being spoken to like this and therefore they tune out? bravenak Nov 2015 #43

It is incredible mcar Nov 2015 #55

Amazing! Simply unbelieveable. bravenak Nov 2015 #57

Maybe it is this: Inequality. Women want Equality; not necessarily a weathtly woman above them. DhhD Nov 2015 #72

I was suffering from that illness of treating her different. bravenak Nov 2015 #74

Treating who differently? no text DhhD Nov 2015 #106

Clinton. I expected more from her than from a man. It was wrong. bravenak Nov 2015 #107

equally doubtful stupidicus Nov 2015 #85

Maybe they are not interested in jumping ship from hillary because they see nothing to jump for bravenak Nov 2015 #86

and for up to fairly recent times, for the same reason stupidicus Nov 2015 #129

Name is recognized. Still not jumping ship. Why is that? bravenak Nov 2015 #132

some must be stupidicus Nov 2015 #146

Not many. Not near enough to win. Why? bravenak Nov 2015 #147

that's already been explained stupidicus Nov 2015 #150

He does not appeal bravenak Nov 2015 #151

That attitude is the penultimate in childishness LiberalLovinLug Nov 2015 #89

I never am swayed to the side of the person trash talking me. I move the other direction like most bravenak Nov 2015 #98

Again, how old are you? LiberalLovinLug Nov 2015 #121

Why would I need YOU to educate me? What gives you the impression that your help is wanted bravenak Nov 2015 #125

They dispute your interpretation of her record or her potential. And they would dispute pnwmom Nov 2015 #95

then by all means, do so stupidicus Nov 2015 #141

I don't think the minor policy differences between Hillary and Bernie are important. pnwmom Nov 2015 #153

those are not by any stretch "minor" differences stupidicus Nov 2015 #158

As I said, the gulf between the Congress and the Dem candidates is vast compared pnwmom Nov 2015 #161

well, I'd disagree with that too stupidicus Nov 2015 #162

She and Bernie BOTH oppose the TPP. So its ridiculous to say she's "inarguably closer to them" pnwmom Nov 2015 #163

only in the mind of a dedicated Hillarian does BS unqualified opposition to the TPP stupidicus Nov 2015 #211

Only in the mind of a Hillary hater does her position AGAINST the TPP put her "inarguably closer" pnwmom Nov 2015 #216

and a proud one at that stupidicus Nov 2015 #217

The responses to my post in this thread prove my point. It's astounding. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #175

I am not generalizinig based on race, ethnicity or gender. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #46

I know which side is respectful to black people. That matters more than the rest of it. bravenak Nov 2015 #51

What are the Official Democratic Platforms of the Georgia Five? How many of them represent DhhD Nov 2015 #100

Clinton. bravenak Nov 2015 #104

You have given permission for others to provide the Georgia Five Official Platforms. Accepted. DhhD Nov 2015 #108

Nobody cares what I think bravenak Nov 2015 #113

You are saying that people you encounter who agree with YOU really understand the issues. pnwmom Nov 2015 #88

and every other potential voter Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #109

I would dispute that young people understand the issues murielm99 Nov 2015 #124

They always do that. It's their Go To excuse for why bernie just doesn't cut it with so many Cha Nov 2015 #157

I have no idea how this will make us love him. I really don't. bravenak Nov 2015 #159

It's the Obtuse/Abuse Strategy. There will be volumes written on where bernie went wrong. This Cha Nov 2015 #190

I hope the writers of those volumes contact me directly. I have much info. bravenak Nov 2015 #193

If they're knowledgable of the ins and outs of the internet ****ups .. they will. Cha Nov 2015 #194

This is good. bravenak Nov 2015 #195

LOve Morrow, U2! Cha Nov 2015 #196

I smoke like a broke stove. Will kill me one day. bravenak Nov 2015 #197

Sorry brave.. Cha Nov 2015 #199

There are some cool ones. bravenak Nov 2015 #200

I took your dare and asked Bernie and Hillary supporters the questions in this post: JDPriestly Nov 2015 #166

That really doesn't mean anything except that they did not want to answer. bravenak Nov 2015 #168

Because we don't feel the need. Our candidate is winning, and by a lot. nt stevenleser Nov 2015 #224

Just so. bravenak Nov 2015 #225

Way to condescend to women and minority voters. Great white and man-splainning. n/t pnwmom Nov 2015 #83

Compare the answers of Hillary and Bernie supporters to my issues questions here. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #165

Oh, right. Quoting from sources is a mark of someone who isn't knowledgable. pnwmom Nov 2015 #167

I have yet to get a solid explanation from anyone other than Bainsbane as to why they prefer JDPriestly Nov 2015 #170

I have repeatedly answered that question. pnwmom Nov 2015 #172

Outreach cannot consist of telling us that Hillary sucks msrizzo Nov 2015 #114

Very alienating. bravenak Nov 2015 #117

Hillary has a LONG history with Hispanics lunamagica Nov 2015 #127

Very true. No amount of slander will mess it up either. bravenak Nov 2015 #133

So do I. In fact, I've become immune to the attacks and smears lunamagica Nov 2015 #134

And booooy do they post! Post after post, op after op. bravenak Nov 2015 #136

Women are a plurality of Democrats and win elections for us. onehandle Nov 2015 #3

But that's only on the Democratic side... SidDithers Nov 2015 #4

both of them thank you for tryin however :-) nt msongs Nov 2015 #23

And ALL of the millennials Politicub Nov 2015 #78

Women know how mauch harder a woman has to work to compete with their male counterpart Sheepshank Nov 2015 #5

Oh, give me a break. pangaia Nov 2015 #11

I don't like your opinion...it sucks when you candidate is losing, huh? Sheepshank Nov 2015 #14

+1000 sheshe2 Nov 2015 #20

Did you even undewrstand what I wrote? No. Of course not. pangaia Nov 2015 #143

Some cheese with your whine? Politicub Nov 2015 #81

I love your swatter!!! Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #105

K AND R! JaneyVee Nov 2015 #6

Women are suffering from Stockholm syndrome. DCBob Nov 2015 #8

Or else we are all just dumb which has also been stated here on DU. leftofcool Nov 2015 #10

Yeah, its gotta be something like that.. DCBob Nov 2015 #15

Please Stop. You're better than that Armstead Nov 2015 #42

Yeah its a crap post but it was in response even crappier posts.. DCBob Nov 2015 #62

I think that people should be better than that too. msrizzo Nov 2015 #118

On another thread someone said that the bulk of Hillary's supporters are "low information voters". Beacool Nov 2015 #128

The RW and Bernie supporters have joined forces to take Hillary down. DCBob Nov 2015 #155

Hillary never wrote any creepy essays about rape fantasies mwrguy Nov 2015 #9

Neither did Bernie - how about a bit of truth for a change. I jwirr Nov 2015 #63

How did you read the article if it wasn't written, now how about the truth for a change? Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #120

I stand with unions, Latino's, AA's,.... NCTraveler Nov 2015 #12

I stand with unions, Latino's, AA's,.... pangaia Nov 2015 #145

I agree. Nt NCTraveler Nov 2015 #148

My wife is a Socialist and will vote for Bernie if he's nominated. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2015 #13

Would that be Dr. Stein? Armstead Nov 2015 #44

Could be... Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2015 #47

I guess I'm still default "anyone but GOP" ...but it's often very tempting Armstead Nov 2015 #56

Doctor Stein? I would like to know more. jwirr Nov 2015 #65

Why would you not just floriduck Nov 2015 #58

I like the other option better. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2015 #61

And yet another thread about how Hillary is ahead in the polls! Yay!!! reformist2 Nov 2015 #16

Cause...she is! MoonRiver Nov 2015 #18

Clinton is winning the female vote 53% to 29% in NBC's poll out today: Attorney in Texas Nov 2015 #19

That is jkbRN Nov 2015 #28

PPP uses a novel methodology that almost no other pollster gives any credence. It's still data, but Attorney in Texas Nov 2015 #37

Great poll#'s Cali! sheshe2 Nov 2015 #21

PPP sucks jkbRN Nov 2015 #26

PPP was the most accurate pollster during the last presidential election cycle. Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #29

That is only based on the last polling cycle Quixote1818 Nov 2015 #45

It would be good if we could have a resonable discussion about the data Agnosticsherbet Nov 2015 #27

Not part of the 69% CountAllVotes Nov 2015 #30

Meh. Identity politics is identity politics. [n/t] Maedhros Nov 2015 #31

This message was self-deleted by its author elehhhhna Nov 2015 #32

Proud to be in the minority. Blue_In_AK Nov 2015 #35

Me too! djean111 Nov 2015 #52

I know one. Blue_In_AK Nov 2015 #67

I know about 8 females who are Hillary supporters..... ccinamon Nov 2015 #77

At my age (69), I doubt if I have any real acquaintances who would vote for Hillary merely because djean111 Nov 2015 #90

Blacks are not dumb. Neither are women. TekGryphon Nov 2015 #39

Yuuup bravenak Nov 2015 #60

+ a million. And your voice is one of an endless sea of people (including Sanders supporters) that Number23 Nov 2015 #64

Well said. nt Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #73

Hear, hear!!!! Beacool Nov 2015 #139

Wish i could rec this post. nt sufrommich Nov 2015 #140

Oh gods, so much this. Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #152

+1000! That "stay home" crap really gets under my skin! nt ecstatic Nov 2015 #231

Then those women have a very poor grasp of which candidate would really do them some good FiveGoodMen Nov 2015 #40

Perfect example of what I was talking about in #39. nt TekGryphon Nov 2015 #48

I made a simply, non-inflammatory statement which I believe to be true. FiveGoodMen Nov 2015 #50

If you can't sell Bernie's positions... TekGryphon Nov 2015 #84

Suspicions confirmed. FiveGoodMen Nov 2015 #144

I'm voting for her anyway gwheezie Nov 2015 #54

How much will your cause be helped by starting another war or two? FiveGoodMen Nov 2015 #59

My cause? gwheezie Nov 2015 #71

Pray tell enlighten the poor ignorant dears, then. Codeine Nov 2015 #154

Ya'll are feeling good now, I can tell. We'll see who has the Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 #49

Poor O'Malley. Jamaal510 Nov 2015 #53

Among women who answer robocalls, perhaps. n/t winter is coming Nov 2015 #66

Another PPP poll, only with 80% of land lines and 20% internent use this time d_legendary1 Nov 2015 #69

If he continues to do so poorly with women? SmittynMo Nov 2015 #70

Are you implying women are supporting Hillary because of her gender? Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #75

I would NEVER do that. SmittynMo Nov 2015 #80

You said: Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #92

Congrats SmittynMo Nov 2015 #96

With a gender gap this huge? davidn3600 Nov 2015 #212

But he's leading with the middle schoolers in Iowa FloridaBlues Nov 2015 #76

ROFLMAO! McCamy Taylor Nov 2015 #188

Enough with the PPP bogus polls. NObody is paying attention to you litlbilly Nov 2015 #91

Is this the PPP poll paid for by Hillarys SuperPac, Correct the Record? peacebird Nov 2015 #94

Not this female.. yuiyoshida Nov 2015 #101

That's incredible ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #103

Proud to be in the 25% AllyCat Nov 2015 #110

And this is news? LiberalLovinLug Nov 2015 #116

juries be busy restorefreedom Nov 2015 #142

Sanders will never overcome the strong pull of women voting for strong, intelligent woman. riversedge Nov 2015 #149

White man struggles to overcome gender bias? Rose Siding Nov 2015 #179

Maybe the elephant in the room is the other candidate who wasn't even a Democrat until recently. Beacool Nov 2015 #182

And if this is true then its huge advantage in the general. DCBob Nov 2015 #210

Not exactly something to be proud of. Fearless Nov 2015 #123

Clinton is really struggling with being a decent person. Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 #126

Oh dear! That's funny! NurseJackie Nov 2015 #130

Is there anything more Rose Siding Nov 2015 #213

I want to make that my phone's ring tone! NurseJackie Nov 2015 #214

I guess all the women I know are in the 22% hobbit709 Nov 2015 #131

yea, really. I'm in the 22% also I guess! Karma13612 Nov 2015 #220

Didn't realize the votes had already been tallied. How many primaries has she won? Martin Eden Nov 2015 #135

She only leads 53-29 with women in the NBC poll jfern Nov 2015 #137

So far. dpatbrown Nov 2015 #138

And yet when some of us said her gender would immensely help her get elected, Doctor_J Nov 2015 #160

But I'm told women don't vote based on gender davidn3600 Nov 2015 #164

This isn't evidence that they do. Women AND African Americans AND Latino Americans pnwmom Nov 2015 #169

They don't, otherwise Carly Fiorina would be polling at over 50% instead of 5%. nt SunSeeker Nov 2015 #181

Who told you that? McCamy Taylor Nov 2015 #189

I knew it was you who posted that Codeine Nov 2015 #215

I was mocked when I made this (sort of tongue in cheek) post McCamy Taylor Nov 2015 #187

The best thing about a contested primary RandySF Nov 2015 #208

Elizabeth Warren hasn't endorsed Bernie yet! At least she would be one more woman... Walk away Nov 2015 #209

Not true with my female friends and relatives. Owl Nov 2015 #218

A commanding lead virtually impossible to overcome. Alfresco Nov 2015 #221

KICK! Cha Nov 2015 #222

PPP is top of the line poling outfit. Iliyah Nov 2015 #226

I only know of one female who is voting for her. Fawke Em Nov 2015 #223

I know of no one who is voting for BS and I have tons of Friends and family Iliyah Nov 2015 #227

Yeah! Cha Nov 2015 #230

PPP was the most accurate pollster during the last presidential election cycle Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #229

Not me n/t snpsmom Nov 2015 #228