2016 Postmortem

MrMickeysMom

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60. That's still not true... How many times do you want me to say it?

Sun Nov 22, 2015, 12:02 AM

Nov 2015

All the "several times" references are not providing any information on the cost of covering the present under-insured and uninsured. The present costs cannot be contained and they are failing for the very reasons I gave you.

Did you dream this up, Recursion? Or, are you getting it from Limbaugh and his friends?

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Bernie will not be introducing a healthcare plan or costs [View all] MaggieD Nov 2015 OP

But he will be finally giving his democratic socialist speech tomorrow whill Hillary gives Foreign riversedge Nov 2015 #1

"It's gonna be GRREAT! You people are gonna LUV-IT! You'll see! I can get it done!" NurseJackie Nov 2015 #2

LOL! MaggieD Nov 2015 #3

Wow RobertEarl Nov 2015 #10

Who is making fun of it? Skidmore Nov 2015 #77

That's pretty much his position. One of the many reasons I don't trust him. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #27

Because if the true costs were revealed, it would kill his candidacy Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #4

Yep - I believe that is true MaggieD Nov 2015 #5

I believe that's exactly why. Yep. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #28

In a sentence, yes. Recursion Nov 2015 #49

Wonder if the cost could be negated somewhat by putting nc4bo Nov 2015 #6

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #7

Bernie is a big MIC supporter, so that ain't happening MaggieD Nov 2015 #8

Why? Because he supports the troops? zalinda Nov 2015 #9

No, because he supports wasteful military spending for pork MaggieD Nov 2015 #15

Hillary voted for all that plus the war neverforget Nov 2015 #17

Irrelevant MaggieD Nov 2015 #18

You said "No, because he supports wasteful military spending for pork" neverforget Nov 2015 #21

No, it's not relevant MaggieD Nov 2015 #22

And a tax cut is going to fix it? neverforget Nov 2015 #24

ACA plans cap the out of pocket at $6450 per individual MaggieD Nov 2015 #26

Unless you get in an accident zalinda Nov 2015 #41

That $6450 is the max out of pocket mythology Nov 2015 #59

I couldn't afford $6450 zalinda Nov 2015 #73

Every year AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #82

If you bring up an issue, then you are making it relevant. Scootaloo Nov 2015 #32

She voted to base F-35s in Burlington VT? MADem Nov 2015 #29

She didn't vote for defense budgets? I thought the whole problem with Bernie neverforget Nov 2015 #34

Isn't "too big to kill" sorta like "too big to fail?" Why is one OK (the one that actually KILLS MADem Nov 2015 #35

The F-35 needs to die. Did I endorse it? Nope. It's funny how neverforget Nov 2015 #37

Bernie plugged the F-35, cozied up to Lockheed-Martin, and traded those "because...jobs" MADem Nov 2015 #38

I disagree 100% with Bernie on the F-35. neverforget Nov 2015 #39

If you want every Senator who voted the wrong way to apologize for their vote, MADem Nov 2015 #40

What a canard. Frog march? Comparing American politicians to Chinese government officials? neverforget Nov 2015 #58

It's not a canard when you're demanding ritual apologies like that's gonna happen. MADem Nov 2015 #74

Get over myself? At least I know when my candidate is neverforget Nov 2015 #79

Don't give me "what's worse?" questions. You don't get to be the Game Show host, here. MADem Nov 2015 #80

Talk about a "childish whine" neverforget Nov 2015 #81

The F-35 is the preferred plane zalinda Nov 2015 #42

LOL!!!!!!! MADem Nov 2015 #43

Small correction, F-35s are not built in Vermont tammywammy Nov 2015 #48

Crazy. JaneyVee Nov 2015 #11

Thank you, Maggie~ Cha Nov 2015 #12

Just like he disappeared when Vermont was trying to implement single payer taught_me_patience Nov 2015 #13

Exactly MaggieD Nov 2015 #19

Exactly. But he's hoping his passionate supporters won't see that dodge. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #30

Jeez, he did the fifty yard dash AWAY from that issue in the fastest time I've ever seen! MADem Nov 2015 #36

Any specifics yet? Alfresco Nov 2015 #14

There's nothing "vague" about Medicare... MrMickeysMom Nov 2015 #16

He still needs to account for what it will cost BainsBane Nov 2015 #20

Exactly MaggieD Nov 2015 #23

+1 moobu2 Nov 2015 #25

He and who else? MrMickeysMom Nov 2015 #31

$15 trillion is way way low. It doesn't count usage increases Recursion Nov 2015 #55

Have you read through the Sanders/McDermott Bill? MrMickeysMom Nov 2015 #63

As I've said over and over again, the deductibles and copays are *current Medicare* Recursion Nov 2015 #66

Okay... Now I KNOW you don't read what's in front of you... MrMickeysMom Nov 2015 #67

Define "the private sector" Recursion Nov 2015 #68

If you're providing services question... MrMickeysMom Nov 2015 #71

I hear it but it's not true Recursion Nov 2015 #72

So, now your ignorance on this issue is based on a libertarian publication... MrMickeysMom Nov 2015 #75

Medicare wouldn't remotely help poor people. It has a $1000 deductible, 20% copays Recursion Nov 2015 #46

That is not correct at all... MrMickeysMom Nov 2015 #52

That's hand waving Recursion Nov 2015 #54

That's still not true... How many times do you want me to say it? MrMickeysMom Nov 2015 #60

I'm getting it from CMS Recursion Nov 2015 #61

See response #63 MrMickeysMom Nov 2015 #65

So now that $15 per hour platitude makes sense Sheepshank Nov 2015 #33

So he gives everybody a raise jamzrockz Nov 2015 #57

The fact is that we can't afford the health care system we have NOW. Ron Green Nov 2015 #44

Except just waving your hands and saying "it will cost less" doesn't make it so Recursion Nov 2015 #45

You're right that drastic reforms are required. Ron Green Nov 2015 #47

I don't know where people keep coming up with 2%. It's 6%. CMS publishes these numbers. Recursion Nov 2015 #62

Don Berwick, the former Director of CMS, is my source. n/t Ron Green Nov 2015 #69

Well, CMS disagrees with him Recursion Nov 2015 #70

prescription drug prices hill2016 Nov 2015 #64

"A Slap Fight." LWolf Nov 2015 #50

He wrote this bill in late 2013 Jarqui Nov 2015 #51

There's a lot in the bill Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2015 #56

Bernie doesn't need plans because he will never get near the Oval Office leftofcool Nov 2015 #53

In 2015, Medicare cost 511 billion for 54 million people. Agnosticsherbet Nov 2015 #76

It's official, Bernie isn't trying to win firebrand80 Nov 2015 #78